does my case support push pull?
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According to this review here, you can't put 360mm rad at the front since PSU shroud gets into the way,
link: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8308/aerocool-project-7-p7-c1-pro-mid-tower-chassis-review/index4.html
link: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8308/aerocool-project-7-p7-c1-pro-mid-tower-chassis-review/index4.html
2nd issue what i'm seeing while looking images is that while there is cutout in the PSU shroud, i'm not sure if it's deep enough to fit push-pull rad into it. Common thickness of push-pull is 77mm.
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Any rad supports push-pull since they have fan mounting holes on either side.
As far as push-pull goes, it's not necessary. Just mount your fans in pull and leave it so. Here's reason why,
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyC3lZ5WFMk
As far as push-pull goes, it's not necessary. Just mount your fans in pull and leave it so. Here's reason why,
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyC3lZ5WFMk
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Corsair H115i uses 140mm fans and there are no fan mounting holes for 120mm fans.
If you want to use 120mm fans on your rad then you need to look towards Corsair H100i V2,
specs: http://www.corsair.com/en-eu/hydro-series-h100i-v2-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler
Do note that stock 120mm fans that come with your case aren't meant to used on a rad since those are airflow fans (45.8 CFM) with low static pressure (1.01 mmH2O). Stock fans don't have proper push power to force the air through restrictions (e.g rad). For a good rad fan, you're looking towards a fan that has static pressure value at least 2.5 mmH2O.
Your case specs: https://www.aerocool.com.tw/en/project7/case-p7/p7-c1-pro
If you want to use 120mm fans on your rad then you need to look towards Corsair H100i V2,
specs: http://www.corsair.com/en-eu/hydro-series-h100i-v2-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler
Do note that stock 120mm fans that come with your case aren't meant to used on a rad since those are airflow fans (45.8 CFM) with low static pressure (1.01 mmH2O). Stock fans don't have proper push power to force the air through restrictions (e.g rad). For a good rad fan, you're looking towards a fan that has static pressure value at least 2.5 mmH2O.
Your case specs: https://www.aerocool.com.tw/en/project7/case-p7/p7-c1-pro
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While it's true that i7-7700K is one hot running chip, it doesn't mean that you have to go with 280mm or 360mm rad to cool it down. You won't gain any cooling performance if you go with AIO over big air cooler since both are cooled by air.
Pros of air coolers:
less cost
less maintenance
less noise
far longer longevity
no leakage risks
doesn't take up case fan slots
additional cooling for the RAM
cools down faster after heavy heat output
Pros of AIOs:
no RAM clearance issues
no CPU clearance issues
takes longer time to heat up during heavy heat output
While how the CPU cooler looks inside the PC depends on a person. Some people prefer to see small AIO pump in the middle of their MoBo with tubing going to the rad while others prefer to see big heatsink in the middle of their MoBo.
Main difference between AIO and air cooler is that with AIO, you'll get more noise while cooling performance remains the same.
Here's also one good article for you to read where king of air coolers (Noctua NH-D15) was put against 5x high-end AIOs, including king of AIOs (NZXT x61 Kraken),
link: http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/1
Personally, i'd go with air coolers every day of the week. With same cooling performance, the pros of air coolers outweigh the pros of AIOs considerably. While, for me, the 3 main pros would be:
1. Less noise.
Since i like my PC to be quiet, i can't stand the loud noise AIO makes. Also, when air gets trapped inside the AIO (some AIOs are more prone to this than others), there's additional noise coming from inside the pump.
2. Longevity.
Cheaper AIOs usually last 2-3 years and high-end ones 4-5 years before you need to replace it. While with air coolers, their life expectancy is basically unlimited. Only thing that can go bad on air cooler is the fan on it. If the fan dies, your CPU still has cooling in form of a big heatsink. Also, new 120mm or 140mm fan doesn't cost much and it's easy to replace one. While with AIOs, the main thing that usually goes bad is the pump itself. And when that happens, your CPU has no cooling whatsoever. Since you can't replace pump on an AIO, you need to buy whole new AIO to replace the old one out.
3. No leakage risks.
Since there's liquid circling inside the AIO, there is always a risk that your AIO can leak. While it's rare, it has happened. It's well known fact that liquids and electronics don't mix.
That being said, your case supports CPU coolers up to 165mm and i'd suggest going with Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 (163mm tall),
specs: https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/482
review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-3-cpu-cooler,4350.html
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9bFPxr/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk019
With Dark Rock Pro 3 (or any other big air cooler), you don't have to remove your stock 3x 120mm RGB front intake fans and you can keep them for additional eyecandy.
Though, as far as CPU goes, with the same amount of money as i7-7700K costs, you can go with i7-8700. 8th gen CPU has 6 cores and 12 threads than it's 7th gen counterpart with 4 cores and 8 threads, thus being far better, despite the fact it's non-K CPU and you can't OC it.
Comparison between i7-7700K and i7-8700,
link: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700/3647vs3940
Or if you're willing to pay extra for K-series CPU, go for i7-8700K.
Comparison between i7-7700K and i7-8700K,
link: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/3647vs3937
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/VKx9TW,C9hj4D,sxDzK8/
Note: 8th gen CPUs need a Z370 chipset MoBo to work.
Pros of air coolers:
less cost
less maintenance
less noise
far longer longevity
no leakage risks
doesn't take up case fan slots
additional cooling for the RAM
cools down faster after heavy heat output
Pros of AIOs:
no RAM clearance issues
no CPU clearance issues
takes longer time to heat up during heavy heat output
While how the CPU cooler looks inside the PC depends on a person. Some people prefer to see small AIO pump in the middle of their MoBo with tubing going to the rad while others prefer to see big heatsink in the middle of their MoBo.
Main difference between AIO and air cooler is that with AIO, you'll get more noise while cooling performance remains the same.
Here's also one good article for you to read where king of air coolers (Noctua NH-D15) was put against 5x high-end AIOs, including king of AIOs (NZXT x61 Kraken),
link: http://www.relaxedtech.com/reviews/noctua/nh-d15-versus-closed-loop-liquid-coolers/1
Personally, i'd go with air coolers every day of the week. With same cooling performance, the pros of air coolers outweigh the pros of AIOs considerably. While, for me, the 3 main pros would be:
1. Less noise.
Since i like my PC to be quiet, i can't stand the loud noise AIO makes. Also, when air gets trapped inside the AIO (some AIOs are more prone to this than others), there's additional noise coming from inside the pump.
2. Longevity.
Cheaper AIOs usually last 2-3 years and high-end ones 4-5 years before you need to replace it. While with air coolers, their life expectancy is basically unlimited. Only thing that can go bad on air cooler is the fan on it. If the fan dies, your CPU still has cooling in form of a big heatsink. Also, new 120mm or 140mm fan doesn't cost much and it's easy to replace one. While with AIOs, the main thing that usually goes bad is the pump itself. And when that happens, your CPU has no cooling whatsoever. Since you can't replace pump on an AIO, you need to buy whole new AIO to replace the old one out.
3. No leakage risks.
Since there's liquid circling inside the AIO, there is always a risk that your AIO can leak. While it's rare, it has happened. It's well known fact that liquids and electronics don't mix.
That being said, your case supports CPU coolers up to 165mm and i'd suggest going with Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 (163mm tall),
specs: https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/482
review: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-3-cpu-cooler,4350.html
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9bFPxr/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk019
With Dark Rock Pro 3 (or any other big air cooler), you don't have to remove your stock 3x 120mm RGB front intake fans and you can keep them for additional eyecandy.
Though, as far as CPU goes, with the same amount of money as i7-7700K costs, you can go with i7-8700. 8th gen CPU has 6 cores and 12 threads than it's 7th gen counterpart with 4 cores and 8 threads, thus being far better, despite the fact it's non-K CPU and you can't OC it.
Comparison between i7-7700K and i7-8700,
link: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700/3647vs3940
Or if you're willing to pay extra for K-series CPU, go for i7-8700K.
Comparison between i7-7700K and i7-8700K,
link: http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/3647vs3937
pcpp: https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/VKx9TW,C9hj4D,sxDzK8/
Note: 8th gen CPUs need a Z370 chipset MoBo to work.
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