Question Does my PC support 3200mhz RAM ?

[Ryuka]

Im planning to upgrade my 8 gb ram to 16 gb to reduce the stutters in a lot of my games

specs:
MOBO:MSI A320 M-A Pro(ms-7c51)
RAM:2x4gbs 2666mhz
CPU:Ryzen 5 1600 AF
GPU:Nvidia GTX 1060 6gbs

Both my Motherboard and CPU seems to not support 3200mhz RAM.
On the mobo website it says:
Support 1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667(OC)/ 2933(OC)/ 3200(OC)+ MHz
but the supported memory list only shows 2666mhz
Im using 2666mhz without any issue so i guess 3200 is fine? if thats true then what about my CPU?
This is what im planning to buy : TEAM GROUP 8 GO DDR4 / 3200 MHZ (TED48G3200C2201) x2

 

[35below0]

The motherboard does, but you have to enable memory overclocking in BIOS and you CPU has to support 3200 Mhz, which it does not. Your CPU supports up to 2667 Mhz: https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/compare/processors/1241,9121

Don't buy RAM kits faster than 2667 unless you're planning to upgrade the CPU soon.

 

[Ryuka]

The motherboard does, but you have to enable memory overclocking in BIOS and you CPU has to support 3200 Mhz, which it does not. Your CPU supports up to 2667 Mhz: https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/compare/processors/1241,9121

Don't buy RAM kits faster than 2667 unless you're planning to upgrade the CPU soon.

Can i use the 3200mhz Ram but manually change them to 2666 in bios? Will the pc post? im not planning to upgrade CPU any time soon.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Can i use the 3200mhz Ram but manually change them to 2666 in bios? Will the pc post? im not planning to upgrade CPU any time soon.

Only if the ram has secondary XMP settings for 2666, or the rams default Jedec spec is 2666.

 

[Ryuka]

Only if the ram has secondary XMP settings for 2666, or the rams default Jedec spec is 2666.

How can i check?
This is what i was planning to buy: TEAM GROUP 8 GO DDR4 / 3200 MHZ (TED48G3200C2201)
the price difference between the 3200mhz and 2666mhz is like less than a dollar where i live, I feel like if i get the 2666 while my pc can handle 3200 it will be a big performance loss and a bad deal.

 

[kerberos_20]

CPU supported ram speed is without XMP, that is with just JEDEC profile without any overclock
mainboard manuals or QVL list usualy shows which CPU can support which clock with XMP/overclock
first gen ryzen usualy had no issues with 3066MHz ram, 3200MHZ was heavily dependent on ram IC (samsung B dies were best for 3200+) and better mainbodards (6 layers+)
1600AF is technically second gen ryzen, which should support 3200MHZ ram even on low end 4 layer mainboard (like A320M mainboard)

btw your mainboard QVL shows up to 3600MHz for second gen ryzen...with micron E die, and 3200MHZ with almost any memory IC out there

 

[kerberos_20]

How can i check?
This is what i was planning to buy: TEAM GROUP 8 GO DDR4 / 3200 MHZ (TED48G3200C2201)
the price difference between the 3200mhz and 2666mhz is like less than a dollar where i live, I feel like if i get the 2666 while my pc can handle 3200 it will be a big performance loss and a bad deal.

thats a single stick, theres no benefit going after single ram stick, better go with dual sticks, that gives better performance uplift than ram speed clock
but if you plan to buy two separate stick and than wonder why it doesnt work..its because those two separate sticks havent been tested to be working together

 

[Ryuka]

thats a single stick, theres no benefit going after single ram stick, better go with dual sticks, that gives better performance uplift than ram speed clock
but if you plan to buy two separate stick and than wonder why it doesnt work..its because those two separate sticks havent been tested to be working together

Yes, im buying 2 sticks for 16gb, Would you recommend kits or 2 singles? they are a bit more expensive maybe like 15 dollars more. I never had issues before buying the same stick twice.
And from what i've understood, there shouldn't be any problem using the 3200? I prefer no risks cause the budget very tight.

 

[kerberos_20]

Yes, im buying 2 sticks for 16gb, Would you recommend kits or 2 singles? they are a bit more expensive maybe like 15 dollars more. I never had issues before buying the same stick twice.
And from what i've understood, there shouldn't be any problem using the 3200? I prefer no risks cause the budget very tight.

DDR4 can be sometimes a bit picky
higher the clock, lower the chances for random sticks to work together

 

[Ryuka]

DDR4 can be sometimes a bit picky
higher the clock, lower the chances for random sticks to work together

Thanks for your help.
All the kits are minimum 3200mhz, and the only one i can afford is Mushkin Redline ST DDR4 UDIMM 16 Go (2 X 8 Go) 3200 MHz (MRF4U320GJJM8GX2).

Is it good and guaranteed to work on my pc?

 

[kerberos_20]

it should work, muskin shows both xmp ready and amd compotible

 

[Ryuka]

Thanks a lot. I'll update when i get them on Monday. 👍

 

[35below0]

Your Ryzen 5 1600AF does not support greater than 2667 Mhz. That will be the maximum for any RAM kit.

 

[kerberos_20]

Your Ryzen 5 1600AF does not support greater than 2667 Mhz. That will be the maximum for any RAM kit.

can you than explain to me why my r7 5800x3d runs at 3800MHz ram?
amd support page shows 3200MHz max speed for two dual rank sticks

amd slides showscasing 3rd gen ryzen with up to 4400Mhz, while text on that slides talks about 5133mhz demostrated (must be one hella mainboard and binned memory controller)

how can that be if cpu supports max 3200MHz? maybe its magic, who knows, but maybe you know?

 

[35below0]

can you than explain to me why my r7 5800x3d runs at 3800MHz ram?
amd support page shows 3200MHz max speed for two dual rank sticks

amd slides showscasing 3rd gen ryzen with up to 4400Mhz, while text on that slides talks about 5133mhz demostrated (must be one hella mainboard and binned memory controller)

how can that be if cpu supports max 3200MHz? maybe its magic, who knows, but maybe you know?

We don't know until he tries.

 

[thestryker]

Thanks for your help.
All the kits are minimum 3200mhz, and the only one i can afford is Mushkin Redline ST DDR4 UDIMM 16 Go (2 X 8 Go) 3200 MHz (MRF4U320GJJM8GX2).

Is it good and guaranteed to work on my pc?

It might not run at 3200, but that is an XMP kit which means its base speed should be 2133 so it should boot fine and if needed you can manually tune it to whatever your CPU needs.

can you than explain to me why my r7 5800x3d runs at 3800MHz ram?
amd support page shows 3200MHz max speed for two dual rank sticks

amd slides showscasing 3rd gen ryzen with up to 4400Mhz, while text on that slides talks about 5133mhz demostrated (must be one hella mainboard and binned memory controller)

how can that be if cpu supports max 3200MHz? maybe its magic, who knows, but maybe you know?

The Zen+ memory controller isn't very good, and is inconsistent so there's no telling until it is tested. Zen 2 was much better as pretty much every one of them could run 3600 and Zen 3 was better still.

 

[Ryuka]

Hey guys, i think everything is working perfectly.

I did change manually from 2666mhz to 3200mhz, and i enabled A-XMP to profile 2, it was always disabled.
Anything else i should enable or disable?
Also:

Im not an expert, so if there is anything missing or wrong i should change?

 

[thestryker]

Im not an expert, so if there is anything missing or wrong i should change?

As long as you don't have any instability I think you're good to go.

 

[PiersPlowman]

Just an addendum: if it works, it works, but enabling higher memory speeds eats into the CPU's power budget so you may see lower clock speeds as a result.

 

[Kona45primo]

Assuming it's stable and passes memtest86 you could tighten the tRC timings to 56, outside of that you should be golden.

As stated above the CPU may or may not deal with the ram very well. My old B350 board with a 1600x did work with 3200mhz, but wasn't perfectly stable all the time, upgraded to a 3700x and it was. After that I went to a 5700x with 4 sticks at 3600mhz. Stable as a rock.

The CPU upgrades were noticeable every time, not so much for the ram.