[SOLVED] dual core passed away, need new cpu🤢🤮

[Soviet45]

my system with 3.1 anthlon, 8gb of ram, 9600gt passed away cuz i was putting ram inside of it while it was still turned on

i was going to get 12900k as soon as it comes out but well i don’t have a pc anymore and to make things much worse my note8 also passed away and i’m stuck with done miserable, garbage iphone 🤢🤮

i want an 8+ core processor and i’ll go with 16x4 gb of trident royal

if i get 12900k then its 32x4 trident royal elite

i really wanted a rampage vi extreme motherboard but sadly they don’t make such beautiful motherboards anymore

atm its i either get 11700k for 300$ and msi force for 300, this is end of line for 1200

or i get 3700x for 230 and b550 a for 200, with this i can upgrade to 5900x or 5950x in the future cuz they still am4

i will be mining, streaming, gaming, editing on this pc

should i get 11700k, 3700x, or should i wait for 12th gen?

 

[Bob.B]

my system with 3.1 anthlon, 8gb of ram, 9600gt passed away cuz i was putting ram inside of it while it was still turned on

i was going to get 12900k as soon as it comes out but well i don’t have a pc anymore and to make things much worse my note8 also passed away and i’m stuck with done miserable, garbage iphone 🤢🤮

i want an 8+ core processor and i’ll go with 16x4 gb of trident royal

if i get 12900k then its 32x4 trident royal elite

i really wanted a rampage vi extreme motherboard but sadly they don’t make such beautiful motherboards anymore

atm its i either get 11700k for 300$ and msi force for 300, this is end of line for 1200

or i get 3700x for 230 and b550 a for 200, with this i can upgrade to 5900x or 5950x in the future cuz they still am4

i will be mining, streaming, gaming, editing on this pc

should i get 11700k, 3700x, or should i wait for 12th gen?

I don't think I would jump on a 12th gen when they hit the market.
Might be some growing pains at the start.
It looks like the 3700x with the upgrade path is the winner.
Just make sure you get a mobo that can handle the upgrade.

 

[Soviet45]

I don't think I would jump on a 12th gen when they hit the market.
Might be some growing pains at the start.
It looks like the 3700x with the upgrade path is the winner.
Just make sure you get a mobo that can handle the upgrade.

yea the b550 strix is a fantastic mobo

i don’t think 11700k is worth it even if it’s 300 because i can’t upgrade it and it stops there

with 3700x i can go for 3950, 5950

as for 12th gen idk what the prices of yhe mobos will be as i need 4/5 pcie slots so something tells me it’ll be like 500$ for a garbage one

12900k will probably be like 550-700$ while 12700k will be 450-500?

losing my patience without a pc
i mean i am going from a dual core so i think 3700x will be a huge difference

 

[Hatchtopher]

should i get 11700k, 3700x, or should i wait for 12th gen?

I have the Intel i7-10700k rated at 3.8 but I have it overclocked to 4.8. You can get a factory max-overclock to 5.1 but I experienced some instability at 5.1. My CPU is a beast. It's on an Asus Rog Strix z-490e and paired with an Nvidia EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3060ti. I highly recommend the 10th gen i7...and i've heard good things about the i5's. You could spend the money on 11th gen or wait for 12th gen and pay for that but IMHO it's overkill.

 

[Soviet45]

I have the Intel i7-10700k rated at 3.8 but I have it overclocked to 4.8. You can get a factory max-overclock to 5.1 but I experienced some instability at 5.1. My CPU is a beast. It's on an Asus Rog Strix z-490e and paired with an Nvidia EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3060ti. I highly recommend the 10th gen i7...and i've heard good things about the i5's. You could spend the money on 11th gen or wait for 12th gen and pay for that but IMHO it's overkill.

yea but we want pcie4 and 10700k is 250 while 11700k is 300, and 3700x is 230 but it’s also pcie4

as for overclocking an i7 well for that much tdp i could get a 1950x or a 3900x

when you have to overclock its time for a new cpu

3700x is 65tdp, 11700k is 125tdp

i overclocked my dual core and my electricity bill was 40$ more the next month rofl

i need a cpu for playing on 5 different runescape accounts at once and also streaming but rs3 is a very demanding game

i also want to play battlefield 5

idk what to choose, i play at 60hz 1080p, i will upgrade to a curved monitor in the future when they make better models

the question here is: will 3700x be good for the next 3 years with 64gb ram?

will waiting for 12900k be worth it or will it be a huge disappointment like 11th gen?

its sad cuz both am4 and lga1200 are at the end of its lifespam…

its a tough decision.

what’s even more sad is that i just bought a 6600xt when my pc passed away

i will definitely be getting a couple 3080 or 4080 and mine with them too

so is 3700x good enough for runescape, streaming, bf5? i think 11700k would be a horrible choice since upgrading to 11900k would make 0 difference in the future

3700x to 5950 now that is an upgrade

as for 12th gen well we would have like 3 or 4 years of support i guess 🤢🤮

 

[SamirD]

Almost anything will be an upgrade from what you had. I'd find the first $100 used system you can find and swap over parts that work for now so you've got something.

 

[Soviet45]

Almost anything will be an upgrade from what you had. I'd find the first $100 used system you can find and swap over parts that work for now so you've got something.

100% agree anything is better

sadly in my area ppl sell 6700k and 32gb of ram for 500$ which in all honesty could be a 11700k with trash mobo and some trash ram but who cares or an amazing 3700x build
i mean all i need is any mobo, cpu, ram and then i can wait and see if 12th gens worth it

 

[Hatchtopher]

when you have to overclock its time for a new cpu

i overclocked my dual core and my electricity bill was 40$ more the next month rofl

i also want to play battlefield 5

idk what to choose, i play at 60hz 1080p, i will upgrade to a curved monitor in the future when they make better models

as for 12th gen well we would have like 3 or 4 years of support i guess 🤢🤮

I don't have to overclock mine but I love tinkering so I overclocked it. Even with my CPU under a full load, it's running at 41 degrees Celsius so either I have a God tier cooling system (which i don't) or it's not pulling that much juice. I have 5 case fans and a liquid cooler on my CPU.

As for your electric bill, there's probably more than 1 factor which caused your bill to go up. Your CPU is likely a factor but probably not one of the bigger ones. Given that climate change has brought hotter summers and colder winters, energy bills are heavily impacted due to increased heating and cooling needs plus the price of electricity has gone up which will also have a drastic impact on your electric bill.

I play Battlefield 5. I am currently on a RTX 2060 but have an EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3060ti coming in a couple days. I still paid waaay more than MSRP but i don't think it was overly bad. I can get 60fps on Battlefield on high graphic settings easily with my 2060 and 10700k. I'm curious to see how much better they will be on the new GPU. Sidenote: good taste on games! Battlefield 5 is insanely awesome.

I have a 24" curved gaming monitor (165mhz) and play a lot of NBA 2k21. At 1080p it runs 110-120FPS during the game. Menus clock out at the full 165FPS. Quite frankly, the 10700k is a VERY capable CPU. I game, stream, work, and edit on mine and never have any issues. I know the FPS is largely impacted by the GPU but CPU's can cause bottlenecks sometimes which hinder output and mine isn't causing any bottlenecking.

As for support, if you buy a 10th Gen processor brand new, you'll still have 3-4 years of support. Make sure to register it. Yes, logic would indicate that you'll have a longer support window with a new product but the 10th gen was launched almost 2 years ago (which isn't old in CPU age) to the date and still holds a major market share (aka...they still sell a ton of them).

The only major benefit I see from a 12th gen is the PCIe upgrade however all the 3060's and 3070's Nvidias run just fine on 10700k's PCIe. The 10700k has literally won awards for best CPU for a 3070. IMO the added cost of buying the newest CPU isn't worth it. I'd rather put that money into a different component but the beauty of PCs is that everyone can have their own preferences, favorites, etc.

Lovin' the PC chat! Keep it coming boys! I'm a sucker for a good conversation and debate

 

[mdd1963]

5800X is quite fast now... (I would not get any 3000-series instead, with the 5000 series available now ,with some sort of plan of upgrading to to 5x00 'in the future')

The 5800X will not suddenly become 'barely adequate' even * if* Alder Lake 12700K and 12900K debuts and bumps it down the performance charts two places or so...

 

[Soviet45]

5800X is quite fast now... (I would not get any 3000-series instead, with the 5000 series available now ,with some sort of plan of upgrading to to 5x00 'in the future')

The 5800X will not suddenly become 'barely adequate' even * if* Alder Lake 12700K and 12900K debuts and bumps it down the performance charts two places or so...

5800x is 400 at microcenter while the 11700k is 300

 

[Soviet45]

I don't have to overclock mine but I love tinkering so I overclocked it. Even with my CPU under a full load, it's running at 41 degrees Celsius so either I have a God tier cooling system (which i don't) or it's not pulling that much juice. I have 5 case fans and a liquid cooler on my CPU.

As for your electric bill, there's probably more than 1 factor which caused your bill to go up. Your CPU is likely a factor but probably not one of the bigger ones. Given that climate change has brought hotter summers and colder winters, energy bills are heavily impacted due to increased heating and cooling needs plus the price of electricity has gone up which will also have a drastic impact on your electric bill.

I play Battlefield 5. I am currently on a RTX 2060 but have an EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3060ti coming in a couple days. I still paid waaay more than MSRP but i don't think it was overly bad. I can get 60fps on Battlefield on high graphic settings easily with my 2060 and 10700k. I'm curious to see how much better they will be on the new GPU. Sidenote: good taste on games! Battlefield 5 is insanely awesome.

I have a 24" curved gaming monitor (165mhz) and play a lot of NBA 2k21. At 1080p it runs 110-120FPS during the game. Menus clock out at the full 165FPS. Quite frankly, the 10700k is a VERY capable CPU. I game, stream, work, and edit on mine and never have any issues. I know the FPS is largely impacted by the GPU but CPU's can cause bottlenecks sometimes which hinder output and mine isn't causing any bottlenecking.

As for support, if you buy a 10th Gen processor brand new, you'll still have 3-4 years of support. Make sure to register it. Yes, logic would indicate that you'll have a longer support window with a new product but the 10th gen was launched almost 2 years ago (which isn't old in CPU age) to the date and still holds a major market share (aka...they still sell a ton of them).

The only major benefit I see from a 12th gen is the PCIe upgrade however all the 3060's and 3070's Nvidias run just fine on 10700k's PCIe. The 10700k has literally won awards for best CPU for a 3070. IMO the added cost of buying the newest CPU isn't worth it. I'd rather put that money into a different component but the beauty of PCs is that everyone can have their own preferences, favorites, etc.

Lovin' the PC chat! Keep it coming boys! I'm a sucker for a good conversation and debate

for me i honestly want 12900k because i love having many cores but not only that i am hoping for a beautiful motherboard finally

i haven’t seen a single hood looking board since rampage vi extreme

im the type of a person that will spend more on looks than performance

i want royal elite ram, fully rgb mobo, p8 case so that i can side mount my argb superflower psu

 

[Soviet45]

i spend a lot of time at my computer so i really want to invest into beautiful argb lighting

its a shame that we have bsuch fugly motherboards nowadays 🤢🤮

i’m hoping that 12th gen will change everything with mobos

if i go with 12900k i’ll be putting 128gb royal elite into the system and won’t hesitate to spend 500 on argb mobo

i haven’t upgraded my pc since 2009 so i want this upgrade to be epic

 

[SamirD]

100% agree anything is better

This is the type of thing I was talking about--something to just get you back on your feet and still a huge upgrade from where you were:
https://www.pcliquidations.com/p113010-hp-280-g1-micro

oooo...this one is even better--the whole system is almost the same cost as getting just the processor elsewhere:
https://www.pcliquidations.com/p85754-lenovo-thinkcentre-m73-mini

Performance differences between what you had and these:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...-4170-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-645/1896vs2522vs174

I wouldn't spend money now if you want your upgrade to be epic--because prices are at all time highs so an epic system right now is coming with an even more epic price. 😱

 

[Soviet45]

This is the type of thing I was talking about--something to just get you back on your feet and still a huge upgrade from where you were:
https://www.pcliquidations.com/p113010-hp-280-g1-micro

oooo...this one is even better--the whole system is almost the same cost as getting just the processor elsewhere:
https://www.pcliquidations.com/p85754-lenovo-thinkcentre-m73-mini

Performance differences between what you had and these:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compar...-4170-vs-AMD-Athlon-II-X4-645/1896vs2522vs174

I wouldn't spend money now if you want your upgrade to be epic--because prices are at all time highs so an epic system right now is coming with an even more epic price. 😱

oh i see what you mean, i’ll actually look into getting a cpu, mem, mobo for 150 at max! as i said anything is an upgrade and then ill wait until prices are better

i have 2x superflower argb psus, 6600xt, hopefully i’ll be able to get 3080 someday too, got hdd and ill get m.2 once prices are better

so yea id definitely be good with a 100$ system for now since anything is better than dual core and yea buying anything now would be a huge waste of money

i was gon upgrade during 11th gen but i didn’t really like how they went from 10 to 8 cores

i think upgrading around holidays is really nice because everything has a good deal

right now prices are quite high and there really aren’t any good deals other than the 11700k for 300 and 3700x for 230. everything else is overpriced. the royal ram that i want was 30% cheaper couple months ago.

definitely going to wait couple months to upgrade while i get a 100$ system for now

 

[SamirD]

Yep, and you can probably install the 6600xt in it too depending on the size of the card, and even run it off the psu you have externally if need be to get your gaming fix. But more than likely the speed of this newer platform will just be enough in itself. It's amazing how much faster modern software works on newer machines.

 

[Soviet45]

Yep, and you can probably install the 6600xt in it too depending on the size of the card, and even run it off the psu you have externally if need be to get your gaming fix. But more than likely the speed of this newer platform will just be enough in itself. It's amazing how much faster modern software works on newer machines.

on craigzlist found i5 4670 or something whatever it’s called with 12gb ram and 1tb hdd for 40$ bout to pick it up tomorrow

 

[SamirD]

on craigzlist found i5 4670 or something whatever it’s called with 12gb ram and 1tb hdd for 40$ bout to pick it up tomorrow

SOLID!! Enjoy it! That's going to be a big step up. 😀

 

[General Kenobi]

my system with 3.1 anthlon, 8gb of ram, 9600gt passed away cuz i was putting ram inside of it while it was still turned on

i was going to get 12900k as soon as it comes out but well i don’t have a pc anymore and to make things much worse my note8 also passed away and i’m stuck with done miserable, garbage iphone 🤢🤮

i want an 8+ core processor and i’ll go with 16x4 gb of trident royal

if i get 12900k then its 32x4 trident royal elite

i really wanted a rampage vi extreme motherboard but sadly they don’t make such beautiful motherboards anymore

atm its i either get 11700k for 300$ and msi force for 300, this is end of line for 1200

or i get 3700x for 230 and b550 a for 200, with this i can upgrade to 5900x or 5950x in the future cuz they still am4

i will be mining, streaming, gaming, editing on this pc

should i get 11700k, 3700x, or should i wait for 12th gen?

Hello there!!
Id suggest you to get the 5900x/5950x directly rather than spending $230 now and later spending $400~$800 on a cpu few years later, cuz then you'd pay overall more money for the system-Yes you can sell the 3600x but it won't pay off $230. For instance 5900x is available for $520 now consider it $400 later (let's say 2 years) so over course of 3 years you'd pay $630 on CPU itself also you'd be spending $400 on a flagship but which is 3 years old. If you are gonna spend then SPEND it now in this way you don't only get great performance now, but compared to a 3700x a better performance for tomorrow too,a better experience which you can have now than spending more tomorrow to get the same experience. Also if you get 5900x now and let's say you replace it in 5 years you'd obviously get more for it than 3700x.

 

[Krotow]

Will you bury or cremate your late CPU?

 

[Soviet45]

SOLID!! Enjoy it! That's going to be a big step up. 😀

its like going from a 1.5 engine with 100hp to a twin turbo 2.3 with 300hp

 

[Soviet45]

Will you bury or cremate your late CPU?

i’m keeping him!

 

[Soviet45]

Hello there!!
Id suggest you to get the 5900x/5950x directly rather than spending $230 now and later spending $400~$800 on a cpu few years later, cuz then you'd pay overall more money for the system-Yes you can sell the 3600x but it won't pay off $230. For instance 5900x is available for $520 now consider it $400 later (let's say 2 years) so over course of 3 years you'd pay $630 on CPU itself also you'd be spending $400 on a flagship but which is 3 years old. If you are gonna spend then SPEND it now in this way you don't only get great performance now, but compared to a 3700x a better performance for tomorrow too,a better experience which you can have now than spending more tomorrow to get the same experience. Also if you get 5900x now and let's say you replace it in 5 years you'd obviously get more for it than 3700x.

100% agree that’s why i’ll wait a couple months until upgrade

 

[Karadjgne]

I'd get a cheap Walmart pre-built and just deal with a basic pc for a short while, get one that uses an ATX psu so you can swap in your old psu and gpu. Ddr5 is right around the corner, so both amd and Intel will be starting new platforms. So unless you plan on just dropping cash on a really good 5800x/11700 pc now, buying something with plans to upgrade is going to be wasted cash.

 

[Soviet45]

you know what… i’m not upgrading till they release a motherboard that’s as beautiful as rampage vi extreme

 

[SamirD]

its like going from a 1.5 engine with 100hp to a twin turbo 2.3 with 300hp

Yep, but like that analogy, your 0-60 times will only drop by a few seconds at best. It's amazing how little huge performance increases actually feel. I though moving from a 4160 to a 4790k would be huge since the single thread performance is so much higher, but it was just noticeable in every day tasks.