[SOLVED] dual core passed away, need new cpu🤢🤮

[Soviet45]

my system with 3.1 anthlon, 8gb of ram, 9600gt passed away cuz i was putting ram inside of it while it was still turned on

i was going to get 12900k as soon as it comes out but well i don’t have a pc anymore and to make things much worse my note8 also passed away and i’m stuck with done miserable, garbage iphone 🤢🤮

i want an 8+ core processor and i’ll go with 16x4 gb of trident royal

if i get 12900k then its 32x4 trident royal elite

i really wanted a rampage vi extreme motherboard but sadly they don’t make such beautiful motherboards anymore

atm its i either get 11700k for 300$ and msi force for 300, this is end of line for 1200

or i get 3700x for 230 and b550 a for 200, with this i can upgrade to 5900x or 5950x in the future cuz they still am4

i will be mining, streaming, gaming, editing on this pc

should i get 11700k, 3700x, or should i wait for 12th gen?

 

[Soviet45]

Yep, but like that analogy, your 0-60 times will only drop by a few seconds at best. It's amazing how little huge performance increases actually feel. I though moving from a 4160 to a 4790k would be huge since the single thread performance is so much higher, but it was just noticeable in every day tasks.

can’t imagine how big of a performance an 8+ core will be… do you know any place that sells rampage vi extreme for around 250? then during holidays ill grab 128gb of royal elite and have a beautiful build.

really wanted that build for a really long time

just want the build for looks more than anything and honestly runescape isn’t too demanding so that pc would last me a decade… bf5 would also run fine

might be a strange build tbh but it’s something that id really love to have since i really don’t play too demanding games

might also be the biggest waste of a xeon, 128gb of all time too

really wish 1950x had beautiful mobos too

as i said whatever cpu has a mobo that’ll look like rampage vi extreme ill get it immediately regardless of specs

 

[ohio_buckeye]

I’m right now using a ryzen 5 3600 6 core 12 threads cpu, bf1, bf5, runs great. I also have a 6600xt. The 3600 seems to be a good pairing with it so I imagine the 3700x or i7 is as well.

Keep in mind though the 6600xt is a brand new card, so you may have teething issues. My card has 2 vbios settings, and my card was set to oc mode from the factory, plus I had an older lower quality power supply. So between those 2 things I’ve been fighting my card a while but I’m hopeful that perhaps is now fixed by swapping the power supply to a Corsair RM850X and by switching the vbios switch to silent mode.

But if you are coming off a dual core, any upgrade is going to be huge for you. I’d recommend to go at least with 10 or 11 series i5 or higher or a ryzen 5 3000 or 5000 series or better. Anything in those performance tiers or higher should pair well with the 6600xt.

 

[Karadjgne]

View: https://youtu.be/RQ6k-cQ94Rc

The 8 core 3700x and 6 core 5600x go pretty much neck and neck in most things, win some / lose some, it's only in a few titles that leverage better use of cache and IPC where the 5600x leaves the 3700x behind. It's a fine balance, if you research the contest with the higher end cpus, the 5600x is also barely behind the 5800x/5900x in many titles. It's not just the core count alone, it's also what cache those cores can bring to the table and push the data through.

Until games start using more than 8-10 threads on average, a 12 thread cpu isn't going to be much different to a 16 thread cpu, unless the 16 threads has better cache access. Most games are only seeing a 1-5 fps difference for a $200 or more price difference.

 

[Soviet45]

View: https://youtu.be/RQ6k-cQ94Rc

The 8 core 3700x and 6 core 5600x go pretty much neck and neck in most things, win some / lose some, it's only in a few titles that leverage better use of cache and IPC where the 5600x leaves the 3700x behind. It's a fine balance, if you research the contest with the higher end cpus, the 5600x is also barely behind the 5800x/5900x in many titles. It's not just the core count alone, it's also what cache those cores can bring to the table and push the data through.

Until games start using more than 8-10 threads on average, a 12 thread cpu isn't going to be much different to a 16 thread cpu, unless the 16 threads has better cache access. Most games are only seeing a 1-5 fps difference for a $200 or more price difference.

i need 8+ cores for playing on 5 rs accs as well as video editing, streaming, and having many tabs open. 3700x is better cuz i’its 65tdp and i’ll be mining

5600x is 260, 10700k is 250, 10850k is 300
3700x is 220, 11700k is 300
10900 is 330 and its non k so thats 65w
12900k will probably be 700? but of course it also needs 700$ motherboard so that’s 1.5k right there

id get 3900x over 5600 or 5800

i’m going to build 64/128gb system so i want as many cores as possible

i haven’t had a new system since 2009 so my next pc will be epic

in all honesty i just want a 128gb of royal elite and 10900x or 10980xe with rampage vi extreme motherboard

so yea completely useless build but i want it cuz it looks beautiful

ill wait till 12th gen to see what i’ll get

id get the 11700kif it was 250 and if mobo was 200

id get 3700x if it hit 150 and mobo hit 150

the only way im getting a 12900k is if i can get it for 550 and if i can get mobo for 500 cuz ram gon cost me 1k by itself

not going to wait for ryzen 7000 cuz amd is way overpriced

so i’m probably going to go with intel unless and becomes affordable with good performance

these are the buying prices for me:
3700x: 150$
5900x: 300$
5950x: 450$
11700k: 250$
10900k 250$
9900k 100$
10700k 100$
10850k 175$
12900k 550$
3900x 200$
3950x 250$
5800x 150$
10980xe 300$
10900x 150$

there those are the fair prices and what the chips are truly worth

as for mobos
id pay 700 for the beautiful rampage vi extreme
200 for z590 msi force
150 for b550 a strix
500 for a z690 that’s fully argb
x570 msi meg 100$
asus prime s590 100$
msi prestige x570 200$
asus rog strix z590 150$
asrock tiachi x570 185$
asrock b550 razer 150$
msi carbon max 50$
rog strix b550xe 150$

glad we took care of those prices

3090 strix is worth 1.5k
3080 strix 700$
3070 strix 400$
3060 strix 200$

there we go

as you can see everything is way overpriced and i’m not willing to pay for it because these companies are scamming people by selling such overpriced junk that’ll be worthless in 4 years from now🤢🤮

 

[Karadjgne]

5800x is $150? Jump on that, it's the 3700x on steroids. Better performance than 5600x same 8 core count as 3700x.

 

[cryoburner]

Unless I'm missing something, 128GB of RAM sounds like it would be absolutely useless for you. I would expect that the vast majority of that RAM would never see any use, and would just be sitting around doing nothing in your system. Having tons of RAM like that might also make it hard to get it running at its full speed, so it could actually hurt performance a bit, if anything.

Keep in mind that nearly all of today's latest games tend to not directly benefit from having more than 16GB installed. Even leaving things like web browsers and streaming software open in the background, 32GB is likely to be more than enough for some years to come, and is arguably a good amount for a higher-end gaming system today. Even 64GB would likely be overkill and more than you need unless you know you will have some specific niche use for it in the near-future.

RAM requirements have not exactly been growing as fast as they once were, and with the proliferation of fast SSD storage, there's becoming even less need for software to store more data in memory.

 

[Soviet45]

5800x is $150? Jump on that, it's the 3700x on steroids. Better performance than 5600x same 8 core count as 3700x.

its 300$ but id pay 150

 

[Soviet45]

Unless I'm missing something, 128GB of RAM sounds like it would be absolutely useless for you. I would expect that the vast majority of that RAM would never see any use, and would just be sitting around doing nothing in your system. Having tons of RAM like that might also make it hard to get it running at its full speed, so it could actually hurt performance a bit, if anything.

Keep in mind that nearly all of today's latest games tend to not directly benefit from having more than 16GB installed. Even leaving things like web browsers and streaming software open in the background, 32GB is likely to be more than enough for some years to come, and is arguably a good amount for a higher-end gaming system today. Even 64GB would likely be overkill and more than you need unless you know you will have some specific niche use for it in the near-future.

RAM requirements have not exactly been growing as fast as they once were, and with the proliferation of fast SSD storage, there's becoming even less need for software to store more data in memory.

yea 100% i don’t need 128gb of ram, not even 64, but honestly id only get it because 128 is just about 200$ more than 128 in royal elite

 

[Karadjgne]

The only ppl who really benefit from 128Gb of ram are those who do a lot of production type work with massive files and highly complex programs that require massive amounts of smaller files simultaneously. And those running high demand VM's, whether large amounts of clients or fewer clients running larger programs.

Other than that, 128Gb is wasted money, even 64Gb is never used, for most consumer platforms 32Gb will be excessive and 16Gb the norm, with only 8-12Gb used.