Question Dumb kid (Me) about to slave away (Get a job and work for dozens of hours with overtime) to get a computer. In DESPERATE need of direction and advice

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Alright, I'll make this brief and blunt; as stated, I am a 16-year-old teenager with plans to attentively work a summertime, part-time job and save up to buy a computer. This aside, however, I have NO IDEA what to do and how to go about doing it, hence why the phrasing for all of this is atrocious (Apologies for that). I have done dozens of hours of research now, and I have a slightly greater grasp of the terminology and process of computers and their fundamentals, though still very minimal. Which is ironic, considering what I'm trying to do could potentially set me back hundreds of dollars and hours of life.

As for what I'm looking for: A budget computer that can handle vector/image editing and moderate gaming. Basically, I'm looking for something that can run Adobe products and let me play Batman: Arkham Origins (For clarification, I always play games on low settings, so gaming performance isn't necessary for me). My budget basically set to any option/route that is under $800~ by the time it's got and/or everything is done. Most preferably, under $500~, but again, I'm willing to work, but I'd prefer to save money and save my brain from working to the bone.

As to how I was going to go about this: At first, I was just thinking about buying a budget prebuilt, and upgrading whatever I feel needs it, like buying a Dell Optiplex and doing one of those 'sleeper Optiplex' builds, or, more simply, just buying a budget prebuilt from Amazon and giving it whatever it needs. At second, I was considering building an entire desktop tower from scratch, hence the hours of research.

So, here I am, asking adults to help me not financially cripple myself (please and thanks)! Don't be afraid to explain things to me like I'm 5; it would honestly be preferred right now.

TL;DR, I'm a stupid, inexperienced kid. Please, help me not go broke with buying a computer with suggestions. I just want to further my ability to make cool designs and play Batman for and with whatever is cheapest and safest to obtain. Also, I live in rural New Jersey, if that's important.
 
Alright, I'll make this brief and blunt; as stated, I am a 16-year-old teenager with plans to attentively work a summertime, part-time job and save up to buy a computer. This aside, however, I have NO IDEA what to do and how to go about doing it, hence why the phrasing for all of this is atrocious (Apologies for that). I have done dozens of hours of research now, and I have a slightly greater grasp of the terminology and process of computers and their fundamentals, though still very minimal. Which is ironic, considering what I'm trying to do could potentially set me back hundreds of dollars and hours of life.

As for what I'm looking for: A budget computer that can handle vector/image editing and moderate gaming. Basically, I'm looking for something that can run Adobe products and let me play Batman: Arkham Origins (For clarification, I always play games on low settings, so gaming performance isn't necessary for me). My budget basically set to any option/route that is under $800~ by the time it's got and/or everything is done. Most preferably, under $500~, but again, I'm willing to work, but I'd prefer to save money and save my brain from working to the bone.

As to how I was going to go about this: At first, I was just thinking about buying a budget prebuilt, and upgrading whatever I feel needs it, like buying a Dell Optiplex and doing one of those 'sleeper Optiplex' builds, or, more simply, just buying a budget prebuilt from Amazon and giving it whatever it needs. At second, I was considering building an entire desktop tower from scratch, hence the hours of research.

So, here I am, asking adults to help me not financially cripple myself (please and thanks)! Don't be afraid to explain things to me like I'm 5; it would honestly be preferred right now.

TL;DR, I'm a stupid, inexperienced kid. Please, help me not go broke with buying a computer with suggestions. I just want to further my ability to make cool designs and play Batman for and with whatever is cheapest and safest to obtain. Also, I live in rural New Jersey, if that's important.
Do not buy oema and try to upgrade them that's a recipe for disaster most oems use some proprietary parts e.g dell and hp and Lenovo.

If you want best bang per dollar your looking under 900.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/s4ZqFs

This is what I would call a zero compromise within your budget reason for 32gb some games experience micro stutter with less.

That's squeezing in a monitor keyboard and os you can ditch the headset if you have one from a console as most are pc compatible
 
my strategy for the past decade has been: buy a cheap, used workstation, fill up the ram slots and, if reasonably possible, upgrade the processor to the maximum the motherboard will support. (big hint: look up the motherboard's chipset. a quick google, for example, for intel q390, will tell you all you need to know.) if it's a small form factor system, you'll have to either find a half height video card, or use a dremel on the case and leave the case open to fit a full size video card in. a modern video card will also require a second power supply to run it, splicing it in to the existing power is very simple, just one wire between the cmd (green) pin. but it is a pain if you want to move the system. however, you stated that you're not concerned with gaming, so just find a cheap, used system and upgrade it as much as you can. this is (usually) the cheapest way.
i have built 3 gaming systems this way. i still use all 3, and all of them are capable of playing modern games. yes, the proprietary power supplies are a pain, but are usually adequate. all of the ones i own are supposed to support 95w processors, though only my oldest rig, the core 2 quad system, runs that hot.
the core 2 duo system (the one i put a core 2 quad into) came with windows 7, which i was able to upgrade to windows 10. the other 2 systems came with windows 10 installed, but i was only able to upgrade the newest system to windows 11, due to the older rig only having tpm 1.2.
the $800 rig listed by lucky_sls looks pretty good, too. i haven't specifically researched the video card they recommend, but you don't really need that, so you could go even cheaper. the most popular legacy video card in the world right now is the geforce gt 710. you can get it cheap, fanless, and half height. just make sure it has at least 2gb of ram. i very recently spent $20 to upgrade the core 2 quad rig from a geforce ct 710 1 gb to a radeon r7 430 4gb because the 710 couldn't run ori and the will o' the wisps smoothly.
my current setup only cost me $400, but then i upgraded it to 48 gigs of ram, 16 tb of storage, and the 4060 8gb that i bought a year ago at $350. it has an intel core i7 8700, which is supposed to be 3.2 gh, but i've never seen it running at less than 4.2. all in all, i spent about $900 to build it, and i'm quite happy.
 
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800 USD budget system:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($83.69 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA XPG GAMMIX S7 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Fighter Radeon RX 6600 XT 8 GB Video Card ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks XT PRO ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX-750 ATX 3.0 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: MSI G244F E2 23.8" 1920 x 1080 180 Hz Monitor ($109.00 @ MSI)
Keyboard: Tecware Tecware Phantom L RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($19.98 @ Amazon)
Mouse: EVGA X20 Wired/Bluetooth/Wireless Optical Mouse ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $798.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-14 10:37 EDT-0400


The Windows in Pre built are volume license that cannot be carried over. You get the same volume license keys online for cheap.

Or, you can use it with the water mark and no customisation options for free.
 
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$600, Integrated AMD graphics, with Windows:

Also Wifi and a Monitor, and a cheap keyboard mouse combo. The mouse and keyboard that Lucky_SLS recommended might be worth it though.

I'm going to assume you already have headphones or earphones.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600GT 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($105.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: ASRock B450M/ac R2.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($76.59 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power GAMING 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($50.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P3 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($39.99 @ Adorama)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A550BN 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - USB 64-bit ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: MSI PRO MP243X 23.8" 1920 x 1080 100 Hz Monitor ($79.99 @ Best Buy)
Keyboard: Logitech MK200 Wired Slim Keyboard With Optical Mouse ($18.10 @ Amazon)
Total: $591.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-06-14 10:49 EDT-0400
 
Main advantage of 800 is that it MIGHT be feasible to build it yourself at that budget...which would be very unlikely at 600 if you want new only.

I wouldn't get in an uproar about it now when your budget is unclear. Wait till the money is at hand and you have a known firm budget. That might be at the end of the summer??

Here's an approximation of parts cost for a cheap Intel build.

Case; 50
Motherboard 100
RAM; 50 to 75
Cooler; probably 0, use cooler supplied with CPU; if not, 30
Power supply; 75
Monitor; 125?
Windows 100?
Video card; ??; maybe 0, using integrated graphics found on CPU

That's about 500 bare minimum.

Plus

CPU; recent generation Intel i3 ori5: 100 on up, maybe as much as 200 or more?

So...600 to 700 minimum. If you can't spend that and still demand new, I'd think about pre-builts.

You might be able to do better with an AMD build?

Not sure if your budget will accommodate all "Adobe products". I use only basic Photoshop.
You can run W10 for free unactivated.
 
Also true. You will have a watermark stuck on the screen at all times and you won't be able to customize the theme/background, but otherwise everything is the same.

You could build the computer and purchase Windows later.

You should also be eligible for the Microsoft Student discount, K-12 and up through college.
 
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