Duron overclocking

Titanion · Jan 30, 2004

OK, now I get sound at least, but the long pause, beep, long pause, beep, etc.

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Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
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phsstpok · Jan 30, 2004

We are running out of unlocked Athlons! XP2400+ is now Thorton (locked). Applebreds were unlocked in the begginning but are locked now too.

It's rumored that Barton XP3200+ is still unlocked but who cares? You can't overclock them much beyond XP3200+ speeds.

XP2100+ is Tbred B only and has never been locked. It's out of production but there are still plenty around and you don't have check for batch codes/steppings. They are all pretty good.

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phsstpok · Jan 30, 2004

long pause...beep...long pause...beep?

Repeating beeps are normally memory or graphics problem. However, long pause...beep, That's a new one for me. Sounds like a manufacturer specific beep code.

Sorry, I can't help you there.

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phsstpok · Jan 30, 2004

This is getting stranger and stranger.
I noticed my L7 mods weren't having any effect (bad pencil?) so I decided to try a wire mod.

I changed default voltage to 1.7 (up from 1.5). Tested without any multiplier mods. Works great. POSTs at 7 x 133 Mhz.

When I replaced the multiplier mods it once again doesn't POST. Yet the Tbred still has no problem with the same mods.

Oh well, I tried but I'm going to have to put this aside for now. I need that system back up and running.

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Titanion · Jan 30, 2004

Upon booting, my computer has a long beep, then a long pause, then a long beep, then a long pause, etc.

I wish i knew if my cpu was toast...

Here is the interesting thing... I turn it off via the power button, unplug the power cord, try moving ram, reinserting video card, etc., to problemsolve, and then when I plug the power cord back in, it reboots on its own....

It does this every time I turn it off, pull the power cord out of the psu, wait a few minutes, then plug the power cord back in... is this a good sign of a motherboard short or what?

To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
John Milton, Paradise Lost, II 262-263

B_Man · Jan 30, 2004

Try cleaning the bridges with the eraser on the pencil. It worked on my Duron 750,just be careful not to STATIC the chip and rub gently.The #2 Lead in a .05 or .03 mechanical Pencil works best for marking the lines with out accidently cross connecting.And if possible use a good magnifierwithlight.Hope this helps.

phsstpok · Jan 30, 2004

Long beeps are usually followed by a count of short beeps to indicate the error.

The only thing I could find concerning just long beeps is supposedly 4 long beeps means CPU fan is running under speed or is damaged. That's with Award BIOS 6.0x.

56K, slow and steady does not win the race on internet!Edited by phsstpok on 01/30/04 11:52 AM.

Titanion · Jan 31, 2004

I actually had to work today, so I have been slow checking posts... I cleaned up the cpu again last night... but I should try again... I did use an eraser...

I need to borrow a friends Palomino 1900+ to test the board... Tbreds are not supposed to be supported on this board, so my 1700+ wouldn't be good to test it with...

To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
John Milton, Paradise Lost, II 262-263

B_Man · Jan 31, 2004

So which bridgs are to be connected to allow 133 fsb on the duron cpu?To unlock multiplier on my duron 750,all I had to connect was the last set of bridges on L1.

phsstpok · Jan 31, 2004

There are no FSB bridges on Spitfire (or Thunderbird, Palomino, Morgan, or Tbred for that matter). You just set your mobo to 133 Mhz FSB. Lower your multiplier if necessary.

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Titanion · Jan 31, 2004

It makes the same sound, long beep, long pause, etc. with both the video card and ram out of the motherboard...

I also tried booting up with cpu fan in cpu fan2 slot, and it auto shut down like it is supposed to do...

To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
John Milton, Paradise Lost, II 262-263

phsstpok · Jan 31, 2004

Try reversing your fan connections. Connect the CPU fan to header #2 and a case fan to header #1.

This will put a known good fan on header #1.

It should prove or disprove the bad fan idea I mentioned.

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Titanion · Feb 1, 2004

I used a case fan in cpu1 and the cpu fan in cpu2, and it did the same thing... I used a 250W psu the see if my 320W was bad, but it did the same thing... I think either I have a short, a shot motherboard, or a shot cpu... the case worked fine with a different board a month ago, the duron worked fine 5 months ago, but the motherboard's history is not known to me... !

I will be able to test a different cpu in a few days...

I guess i just have to pull that board out again a 2nd time... and try to boot it up...

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OK, it was done, and I got the same behavior... same beeps...

But when I powered it down, I promptly took the heatsink off, and the cpu was not even warm...

To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
John Milton, Paradise Lost, II 262-263Edited by Titanion on 01/31/04 08:01 PM.

Titanion · Feb 1, 2004

OK, what exactly does crossing the Duron 750s L6 bridges 1 and 4 (2 and 3 are connected already) tell the motherboard to do to the cpu? I am praying my cpu is toast but my board it still ok.

To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
John Milton, Paradise Lost, II 262-263

B_Man · Feb 1, 2004

If you have access to another {in use} MB that your cpu will work in ,try switching your parts one at a time ie "process of elimination".

phsstpok · Feb 1, 2004

The way I understand it, the L3 and L4 bridges set the actual chip default multiplier. While the L6 bridge sets the multiplier ID. It's sort of redundant to the multiplier but this multiplier ID code is used by the northbridge.

addition
Where the L3 and L4 bridges are done in pairs, each pair representing one bit of the multiplier, the L6 bridge has a single bridge for each bit of the multiplier ID.

56K, slow and steady does not win the race on internet!Edited by phsstpok on 01/31/04 10:18 PM.

Titanion · Feb 5, 2004

I got the same results using a working Palomino 1900+... long beep, long pause, long beep, etc.

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suppose I made a mistake with the led plugs, hdd, power, speaker, etc.... could a reversed +/- plug or a plug in the wrong spot cause this failure to boot? I am grasping a chains of sand here...

I do not think I made a mistake, and I printed out that page of the manual, but I have not tried booting with all the plugs out...

To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
John Milton, Paradise Lost, II 262-263

phsstpok · Feb 5, 2004

It's got do be the motherboard or the memory.

Have your tried moving/swapping the memory?

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Titanion · Feb 5, 2004

Ya, two different sticks tried in all three slots... a friend of mine thinks the north bridge is not talking to the ram bus...

To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
John Milton, Paradise Lost, II 262-263

B_Man · Feb 6, 2004

The beeps you hear when booting your computer are a result of something called a POST. This stands for Power On Self Test, and is a series of diagnostic tests that run automatically when you turn on your computer.Try this address... (www.techtv.com/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,24330,2482342,00.html)
Hopefully it will help address what your post is trying to tell you.

Titanion · Feb 6, 2004

Ya, I have read through all the different types of beeps Soyo has listed at their site... and what I am hearing does not quite fit... I have had bad ram and poorly seated video card beeps before, and I have overcome them... but this has me pulling out my hair... I do think the board is not working...

To reign is worth ambition though in Hell:
Better to reign in Hell, than serve in Heav'n.
John Milton, Paradise Lost, II 262-263Edited by Titanion on 02/09/04 00:29 AM.

B_Man · Feb 9, 2004

Dead boards stink!...Sorry to hear it,like to thik it could be saved but it happens?

Titanion · Feb 9, 2004

and I love that old board, too... it is way better than some other oddball used board I might come up with...

The mind is in its own place, and in itself
Can make a Heav'n of Hell, a Hell of Heav'n.
John Milton, Paradise Lost, Book II

phsstpok · Apr 5, 2004

It's been a couple of months. Just wondering if you got the problem resolved plus I wanted to post an update.

Earlier I couldn't figure out why pinmods weren't working on my Duron. Well, I made a noob mod'ing mistake. I knew that the L6 pins control the Multiplier ID and that the L6 bridges needed to be mod'd when the L3 and L4's (Multipliers) are mod'd. What I forgot to realize is that while doing pinmods on Durons/Thunderbirds you have to do the equivalent multiplier ID mod.

The BP FID pins control the multiplier. (These are the same pins that you mod for Tbreds, Bartons, etc). However for the old processors, you additionally have to mod the FID ID pins (see link at end).

Basically, whichever way you mod, everything has to match. If your multiplier is 10x, for example, then you must set Multiplier ID to be 10x.

Later processors dropped the Multiplier ID function.

Link
<A HREF="http://www.beachlink.com/candjac/duronocpg1.htm" target="_new">http://www.beachlink.com/candjac/duronocpg1.htm</A>

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