Dying light FPS issue

[Armaan8134]

Made a thread on the steam forums as well about it and also made a ticket with techland.
Hello. I get alot of FPS drops especially when I look around. Usually its 40-50fps but as soon as I look around, whether indoor or outdoor, fps drops to 1-5. Created a ticket with techland support as well, thought I'll make a thread here as well. My PC setup is:
CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6cores
GFX: AMD Radeon HD7770 1GB
RAM: 4GB for now, will get another 4GB stick back in a day or two. So total 8GB you can say

I tried playing it on 4GB RAM, but it had the fps drops. Will having 8GB total RAM fix this issue or will I still keep getting the fps drops to 1-5fps when I look around? I tried on lowest reso and all the options switched off and view distance minimum. So will 8GB RAM give me a stable fps and smooth gameplay? Don't care much about the graphics, just want a smooth gameplay. Or should I ask for a refund? Really want to play this game so any tweaks or anything will help. Thanks!

 

[Dunlop0078]

Well your limited in both your system ram and VRAM in your gpu. I know dying light will easily use more than 1gb of VRAM at 1080p, have you tired lowering thew graphics settings as low as they can go? If you use more than your 1gb of vram you will likely get frame drops and rampant stuttering, then it will load the excess into system ram which you already dont have enough of. If you want a solid 60fps in that game you will likely need a new gpu with at least 2gb of vram as well as another 4gb of system ram.

 

[Armaan8134]

Well your limited in both your system ram and VRAM in your gpu. I know dying light will easily use more than 1gb of VRAM at 1080p, have you tired lowering thew graphics settings as low as they can go? If you use more than your 1gb of vram you will likely get frame drops and rampant stuttering, then it will load the excess into system ram which you already dont have enough of. If you want a solid 60fps in that game you will likely need a new gpu with at least 2gb of vram as well as another 4gb of system ram.

So you're saying I need 8GB of RAM right? I'll have total 8GB in a day or two. Will that fix the fps drops? And I don't really care about the graphics, just want a smooth gameplay. Don't care much about 1080p. I tried playing on the lowest possible reso, and all the options switched off.
A friend of mine has AMD Radeon HD 5700 1GB gfx but with Intel i5-2500k-3.3GHz cpu and he can run the game smoothly at highest settings.

 

[boju]

No he can't, your kind of bluffing now im sorry to say.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri?itemId=11912

Your system only reaches minimum, 780GTX is recommended and 8GB system memory.

 

[Dunlop0078]

No he can't, your kind of bluffing now im sorry to say.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri?itemId=11912

Your system only reaches minimum, 780GTX is recommended and 8GB system memory.

"Your kind of bluffing now im sorry to say" What do you mean by that? Who's bluffing and about what?

EDIT: Oh sorry took me a minute to realize what you meant by that, disregard the above.

 

[Dunlop0078]

Well your limited in both your system ram and VRAM in your gpu. I know dying light will easily use more than 1gb of VRAM at 1080p, have you tired lowering thew graphics settings as low as they can go? If you use more than your 1gb of vram you will likely get frame drops and rampant stuttering, then it will load the excess into system ram which you already dont have enough of. If you want a solid 60fps in that game you will likely need a new gpu with at least 2gb of vram as well as another 4gb of system ram.

So you're saying I need 8GB of RAM right? I'll have total 8GB in a day or two. Will that fix the fps drops? And I don't really care about the graphics, just want a smooth gameplay. Don't care much about 1080p. I tried playing on the lowest possible reso, and all the options switched off.
A friend of mine has AMD Radeon HD 5700 1GB gfx but with Intel i5-2500k-3.3GHz cpu and he can run the game smoothly at highest settings.

I dont know if your friend runs the game fine with 1gb of vram then maybe. However I think 1gb of vram might be cutting it quite close even on lower settings.

 

[Armaan8134]

No he can't, your kind of bluffing now im sorry to say.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri?itemId=11912

Your system only reaches minimum, 780GTX is recommended and 8GB system memory.

Not bluffing. He recorded a small video of his gameplay as well and it was smooth. And he doesn't have any need to lie to me, he showed me his PC specs as well and he plays the game alot. And no, I don't have any reason to lie. Just trying to get a solution to get the game running.
And I know I just cut the minimum, but at times even when cyri shows minimum or not even minimum, I can run the games fine. CYRI test for him came to be less than minimum as well. Still he can run it smoothly.

 

[Dunlop0078]

No he can't, your kind of bluffing now im sorry to say.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri?itemId=11912

Your system only reaches minimum, 780GTX is recommended and 8GB system memory.

Not bluffing. He recorded a small video of his gameplay as well and it was smooth. And he doesn't have any need to lie to me, he showed me his PC specs as well and he plays the game alot. And no, I don't have any reason to lie. Just trying to get a solution to get the game running.
And I know I just cut the minimum, but at times even when cyri shows minimum or not even minimum, I can run the games fine. CYRI test for him came to be less than minimum as well. Still he can run it smoothly.

What resolution does he play at and what framerate does he consider smooth? I can see maybe it running smoothly at 720p with the lowest settings possible, it would likely be even better if you locked the framerate at 30fps.

 

[Armaan8134]

No he can't, your kind of bluffing now im sorry to say.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri?itemId=11912

Your system only reaches minimum, 780GTX is recommended and 8GB system memory.

Not bluffing. He recorded a small video of his gameplay as well and it was smooth. And he doesn't have any need to lie to me, he showed me his PC specs as well and he plays the game alot. And no, I don't have any reason to lie. Just trying to get a solution to get the game running.
And I know I just cut the minimum, but at times even when cyri shows minimum or not even minimum, I can run the games fine. CYRI test for him came to be less than minimum as well. Still he can run it smoothly.

What resolution does he play at and what framerate does he consider smooth? I can see maybe it running smoothly at 720p with the lowest settings possible, it would likely be even better if you locked the framerate at 30fps.

Well I don't mind playing even at constant 30fps. I just want to fix it that when I look around, it drops to 1-2 fps which stutters like shit, making it almost unplayable. He says he gets 25fps constant at max settings, 1080p. As I said, even if I get a constant stutter free 30fps, I'll be happy with that. So will the 8GB RAM give me that or I have to upgrade the CPU/GPU? If it's the latter then I'll just ask for a refund since I won't be able to buy a new Processor/GPU atm.

 

[Dunlop0078]

Well I would try locking the framerate to 30fps if your okay with that before you buy or do anything. Not sure how to do this with amd, it will be in your catalyst control center or amd crimson if you have the latest drivers, their should be an option to set vsync at half the refresh rate this will force the game to run at 30fps when vsync is on.

 

[Armaan8134]

Well I would try locking the framerate to 30fps if your okay with that before you buy or do anything. Not sure how to do this with amd, it will be in your catalyst control center or amd crimson if you have the latest drivers, their should be an option to set vsync at half the refresh rate this will force the game to run at 30fps when vsync is on.

Vsync is off since vsync on lowers the frame rate a bit I guess. And I've already tried that, main problem is that it drops to 1-5 when I look around.

 

[boju]

Sorry i didn't want to call you a liar, didn't want to make it sound dramatic. Thought you compared to a friends specs to get a different response. Its hard to believe running this game on a system with those kind of specs, mainly memory and gpu.

Knowing Dying Light takes quite a bit to run as i play it a lot on a 2600k @4.5/GTX780 Win7 64Bit pretty lean os, its not quite 100% smooth on high 1080p settings with a decent view distance. And that's only the beginning, i wont spoil it for you, just letting you know where the game eventually takes you is even harder on the system.

Your cpu is still fine, can overclock it with a good cooler for more performance (But need a better gpu to make it worth the overclock), see where that gets you. Keep in mind your motherboard will have to be changed out if you decide to go Intel. An Fx8320 (3.5GHz) / 8350 (4GHz) is probably the only upgrade path you can take. Speeds in brackets are stock, 8350 is essentially an factory overclocked 8320 if you're not comfortable overclocking your self (8320 or your 6300) to save on money.

If your friend can run the game better than you, i would start with grabbing all his settings in CCC and in game, everything. Any trivial settings that may appear obvious, write them all down and make them exact.

Windows can play a role too, if you have stuff running in the back ground, close as much as you can to free resources. Running the game in High priority may also help.

Still there is no doubt in my mind 1GB Vram is hitting a wall. Dunlop0078 explained it well in his first post, how a system reacts shifting data between Vram and System memory. Doesn't matter how much system memory you have, the second Vram data is moved to System memory the system takes a performance hit. Vram is much faster than System memory, if you don't have enough Vram for games that need it, the overflow of data kills performance.

Keeping anti-aliasing, resolution, view distance down to a minimum can help lower Vram usage. Maybe use a monitoring tool to monitor your Vram usage. http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

7770 is slightly better then a 5770, still budget gpus out today run rings around them. I'd look into upgrading your gpu first before considering a cpu upgrade.

Edit: Not making out to having 8GB system memory wont help at all, it certainly will for other CPU related tasks. But as a secondary Vram buffer, as it passes data off to System memory and if you don't have enough System memory, it then passes on to Virtual memory on the HDD, that's a lot much worse. Depending how much background running processes you have, 4GB would make it tough to play modern games.

Although System memory is pretty much useless for Vram transfers, an extra 4GB System memory will certainly help your system all round.