Dynatron R27 And R24 Versus Noctua NH-U9DX i4

[Crashman]

Noctua:
"We offer free mounting upgrades for consumer sockets, but not for Narrow ILM since most of the consumer heatsinks are either very hard to install (the screws are often near impossible to reach) or cause issues as you've found with D15 pressing against the heatpipes. We strongly advise customers to go with the DX i4 models for this reason as they are fit for use on Narrow ILM!"

So I showed how the D15 can but shouldn't be used. I mentioned the D14 as an alternative which isn't supported by Noctua due to installation difficulty. And if your case supports sideways mounting, there's always the NH-U12DX i4 (with adequate screw access).

But if I had the case to fit the U12DX i4, I'd probably buy the cooler, use the its brackets with my D14, go through all the screw access pain with the D14 because I'm stubborn, repack the D14 mounting kit with the U12DX, and resell the U12DX as an unboxed U12S

Keep in mind that the only reason I even thought to try the D15 is because people cry when we don't include it.

 

[g-unit1111]

That Noctua cooler completely dwarfs that motherboard! :lol:

The NH-D15 Fits! But only if your modules are single-sided, and it still pushed against them. As the article says, if you like that but don't want the fitment problem, use the NH-D14.

I should build a machine like that. I have the brackets. Suggest a case for me that has a horizontal ITX motherboard tray and a side inlet, other than the Cubitek Mini Tank that is no longer available

I've been playing around PC Part Picker to see what the most powerful single build I can fit into the tiniest case would be. Right now the best I could do was something based around a Silverstone RVZ01B with that Asrock X99 motherboard.

 

[Crashman]

That Noctua cooler completely dwarfs that motherboard! :lol:

The NH-D15 Fits! But only if your modules are single-sided, and it still pushed against them. As the article says, if you like that but don't want the fitment problem, use the NH-D14.

I should build a machine like that. I have the brackets. Suggest a case for me that has a horizontal ITX motherboard tray and a side inlet, other than the Cubitek Mini Tank that is no longer available

I've been playing around PC Part Picker to see what the most powerful single build I can fit into the tiniest case would be. Right now the best I could do was something based around a Silverstone RVZ01B with that Asrock X99 motherboard.

I think you might end up using D24

 

[Bernie Fresh]

I've been playing around PC Part Picker to see what the most powerful single build I can fit into the tiniest case would be. Right now the best I could do was something based around a Silverstone RVZ01B with that Asrock X99 motherboard.

hahaha when the cooler dwarfs the motherboard, id say a bigger boat is warranted
the mission then is to find the smallest case that still fits a D15

i am looking forward to the article attached to this build!

 

[Eggz]

I've been playing around PC Part Picker to see what the most powerful single build I can fit into the tiniest case would be. Right now the best I could do was something based around a Silverstone RVZ01B with that Asrock X99 motherboard.

Wait for the RVZ02 if you want that design. It's much smaller. Also, use an all-in-one 120mm if you pick a case that can fit one. It'll provide sufficient cooking and less cluttered.

I'm going to build a small X99 within the next year using the Lian Li PC-05s. It's purdee

 

[leclod]

Hi,
I love my Arctic Freezer 11 LP which is rated up to 95W and very silent.
It might be a winner on those ITX boards.
Did anybody consider it ?

 

[Eggz]

Hi,
very silent.

Ha, this always cracks me up. I'm definitely not taking a crack at you for saying it. It's the marketing terms companion use all over the place. So this is to the marketing people.

Strictly speaking, silence is a binary concept. Either it makes some noise (even the tiniest bit) or it's silent. There's no in between. It's like blankness on a piece of paper. If there's anything on the paper, it isn't blank. No paper is "kind of blank" or "acceptably blank" or "very blank."

 

[Crashman]

Hi,
I love my Arctic Freezer 11 LP which is rated up to 95W and very silent.
It might be a winner on those ITX boards.
Did anybody consider it ?

It does not fit, therefore it cannot be considered.

 

[PaulBags]

I know most people at an enthusiast level will replace thermal paste with their favorite solution, but I think it's a shame these coolers weren't tested in their 'out of the box, as intended' configuration.

 

[leclod]

It does not fit, therefore it cannot be considered.

Hi Crashman,
Thanks for the reply,
(I should have known )
But, then maybe the Arctic Alpine 20 PLUS CO ?

 

[Crashman]

I know most people at an enthusiast level will replace thermal paste with their favorite solution, but I think it's a shame these coolers weren't tested in their 'out of the box, as intended' configuration.

It does not fit, therefore it cannot be considered.

Hi Crashman,
Thanks for the reply,
(I should have known )
But, then maybe the Arctic Alpine 20 PLUS CO ?

That one is also square. The article attempts to find a consumer-friendly solution for a rectangular mounting pattern that exists primarily in non-consumer platforms. The crossover motherboard is ASRock's X99E-ITX/ac.

Arctic usually has good value, but they don't appear to have a narrow ILM bracket.

 

[leclod]

Arctic usually has good value, but they don't appear to have a narrow ILM bracket.

Thanks again for your kind reply

 

[Crashman]

I will use this one to cooling down my computer, do you think this is a right choice? If not, please give me some advices. I am also confuse about how to install it on my motherboard, do you have method?
http://www.thecomputer.org/shop/cooling-fans/corsair-hydro-series-h105-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060016-ww/

Which motherboard?

 

[Crashman]

I will use this one to cooling down my computer, do you think this is a right choice? If not, please give me some advices. I am also confuse about how to install it on my motherboard, do you have method?
http://www.thecomputer.org/shop/cooling-fans/corsair-hydro-series-h105-extreme-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060016-ww/

Which motherboard?

Thank you for your attention on my question..
I want to use that cooling fan on my motherboard like this one.
http://www.thecomputer.org/shop/motherboard-computer-components/asus-crosshair-v-formula-z-am3-amd-990fx-sata-6gbs-usb-3-0-atx-amd-motherboard/

If you look at the component image you'll see that the kit includes a rectangular bracket for AMD sockets. Unscrew the original bracket from the motherboard, replace the square bracket on the Corsair cooler with the rectangular one, and install according to the instruction booklet.

 

[Godsownlegion]

Shame noctua don't sell the slim ilm bracket separately or do they if you ask nicely?

 

[Crashman]

Shame noctua don't sell the slim ilm bracket separately or do they if you ask nicely?

They contacted me to let me know that because it's so hard to install a big cooler with the narrow ILM brackets, they're reserving them for their server products. They said if you needed a regular (square ILM) bracket, they'd be happy to supply it.

 

[bigdaniel]

A4-SFX with Haswell-E​

This test should demonstrate, what is possible with the A4 SFX. Therefore I did a build with an Haswell-E . It should be said, that some things have to be considered, to use Intel's Haswell-E inside the case.

This is required:

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  ■ Motherboard: Asrock X99E-ITX
  ■ Heatsink: Dynatron T318
  ■ FANs: one of the following...

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  ■Noctua A9x14
  ■Thermalrigth AXP100 FAN
  ■Deepcool GS 120
  ■Yate Loon D12SL-12C 120mm
  ■SilverStone FN123

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  ■ other: thin cable ties

Cooler Compatibility:
The Asrock X99e-ITX is the only motherboard in ITX format for the socket 2011-3. Unfortunately, it use not the square base ILM like for any other desktop boards. The X99E-ITX use the narrow ILM socket for server boards. Therefore normal 2011-3 cooler do not fit. The board includes a tower heatsink, but this one is too high for the A4-SFX.
Therefore we use the Dynatron T318 for this test. This is a 1U coolers, with an height of 27mm, made out of copper, with an Vapor Chamber on the ground and a cooling performance up to an TPD of 140W. Due to the low height of the heatsink, all fans up to 20mm could be mounted. The fan is fastened with cable ties on the heatsink, because it does not have a clamp or screw mount.


Pictures of the build:

Cooling test:
Depending on the quality of the CPU you will reach different temperatures. The processor I bought was well priced, because it one with a bad overclocking ability. I test the CPU in Prime95 8k test and Intel XTU cpu stability test.
The Prime95 8K test generates temperatures that are 10-20 ° C higher as in normal usecase like games and rendering software. The XTU test shows how heavy Prime95 is, because the temperature values are around 10 ° C lower.

A first test in Prime95 with standard voltage, inside the case and the Thermalright cooler result in 78 ° C, so I test also with an undervolted CPU. (-0.09 V - good CPUs can reach -0,14V and more). According to Intel, the 5820K has been approved to 105 ° C, therefore the 78 ° C would not be critical, but I'm trying to find the optimum.

It should be also noted, that the room temperature was 25 °C . This is 3-4 ° C higher than in the old test.


Results:

Someone would think that the 120mm fan of DeepCool would be the best, but much air passes by the heat sink and the air pressure is weaker than the other test candidates. Even if I covered the side of the fan, which is above the heat sink (see pictures), brought no real improvements.

Final words:
The test was able to demonstrate that it is possible to use a Haswell-E processor in the A4 SFX. In addition to the high cost of the motherboard and the CPU you have to do some points by yourself to make it possible. Somebody that will not run Prime95 or has no problems with temperatures around 78°C, can operate the processor with default voltage in A4 SFX. The optimum of this build would be an usecade with an external water cooling, e.g. with an 240 radiator. So you will be able to do overclocking around 6x4Ghz.

Thank you for reading