News EU Needs Its Own Operating System, Finnish Minister Says

[bit_user]

Yes I realize .NET is a language, but services that run on .NET don't run on Linux/Apache ...except a few experimental servers)

That's not accurate.

Microsoft Outs .NET Core 3.0 With Continued Linux Support & Better Performance - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

You can even run it on NetBSD: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=dotNet-NetBSD

 

[digitalgriffin]

That's not accurate.

Microsoft Outs .NET Core 3.0 With Continued Linux Support & Better Performance - Phoronix

www.phoronix.com

You can even run it on NetBSD: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=dotNet-NetBSD

And they are experimental servers. I don't think MS and Amazon are using Linux on their backend. I may be mistaken however.

 

[AlistairAB]

It's probably not about literally not being able to obtain new copies of MS Windows or Office. I think they're worried about:

• Backdoors & vulnerabilities
• Support contracts
• Cloud services
• Data privacy
• Open & fair competition

It kind of is, though. If your companies can't compete with Google's products, because it unfairly favors its own by doing things like ranking them higher in its search results or pricing them below cost, then you fail to develop the industry which can produce those alternative products.


Like hell they're not! They're totally paranoid and after economic world domination.

1. There's no real security vulnerability. That's the point. No one has suggested how Europe having their own OS instead of Windows OS would do anything to improve security, whatsoever. And if you're concerned about the ultimate security, like war, it is nonsensical as I said. Windows OS can be hacked, or freely copied, and continued to be used by the enemy in wartime or during hostilities.

2. Again you haven't lost your manufacturing base. It can take several years to ramp up manufacturing during war time, and you'll be screwed if the war doesn't last long enough. When has any EU military pointed to Windows OS as a problem? Never.

3. Again, China has never had any security issues because they used Windows. Never. They want to build their own hardware and software so they can legally operate without sending billions of dollars overseas. 1 billion people buying Windows every 5 years is 50+ billion dollars out of the economy, by their way of thinking. Nothing to do with security.

Any major equipment or servers or military hardware doesn't run on Windows anyways, there are plenty of alternative, native and otherwise for non-consumer hardware.

 

[bit_user]

You're thinking about this in much too simplistic terms.

1. There's no real security vulnerability.

Huh? What an odd thing to say...

2. Again you haven't lost your manufacturing base.

Software development is an industry that can take decades to fully develop and mature.

3. Again, China has never had any security issues because they used Windows. Never.

You can't possibly know that.


Some other aspects you're missing:

* APIs and the ability they have to create markets or enable services (e.g. cloud).
* Hardware support - Europe wants their own CPUs & other hardware, and doesn't want to be at the mercy of MS' whims to get it supported.
* Pricing
* Bugfixes and reliability, like in case they do want to run some mission-critical stuff on it.
* Freedom to innovate, and possibly even get out ahead of the US & elsewhere - not just follow in others' footsteps.