Exalted: the First Age?

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So I was thinking about writing some fictiony things and I randomly wrote a
line that caught me off guard and got me thinking.

How long did the First Age last? Were the Solars who were slain the ones
who themselves killed the Primordials? Or were they a generation or more
removed?

 

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Shane Graves wrote:

> So I was thinking about writing some fictiony things and I randomly wrote a
> line that caught me off guard and got me thinking.

> How long did the First Age last? Were the Solars who were slain the ones
> who themselves killed the Primordials? Or were they a generation or more
> removed?

I calculated this a while ago, actually.

We know Chejop Kejak was born very soon after the end of the Primordial
War. Geoff said something like "He didn't see the war, but he saw
pretty much everything afterwards." At the moment, he's about to die.
Since Sidereals live anywhere between 3,000 to 5,000 years, this means
we know roughly how long it's been since the beginning of the First Age.

It's been 750 years since the Great Contagion and the founding of the
Scarlet Dynasty. Before that, the Dragon Shogunate lasted for about 750
years. So It's been 1,500 years since the Usurpation.

3,000 minus 1,500 is 1,500. 5,000 minus 1,500 is 3,500. The First Age
lasted anywhere between 1,500 and 3,500 years. Since Chejop Kejak is
said to be the oldest Sidereal, I suspect his lifespan is nearer to the
long side of the scale than the short side. I'd bet on the First Age
lasting at least 3,000 years.

This means, I think, that the First Age was long enough for about two
generations of Solars. The really decadent and evil ones were the ones
that never experienced the Primordial War.
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Stephenls wrote:

> Shane Graves wrote:
>
>> So I was thinking about writing some fictiony things and I randomly
>> wrote a
>> line that caught me off guard and got me thinking.
>
>
>> How long did the First Age last? Were the Solars who were slain the ones
>> who themselves killed the Primordials? Or were they a generation or more
>> removed?
>
>
> I calculated this a while ago, actually.
>
> We know Chejop Kejak was born very soon after the end of the Primordial
> War. Geoff said something like "He didn't see the war, but he saw
> pretty much everything afterwards." At the moment, he's about to die.
> Since Sidereals live anywhere between 3,000 to 5,000 years, this means
> we know roughly how long it's been since the beginning of the First Age.
>
> It's been 750 years since the Great Contagion and the founding of the
> Scarlet Dynasty. Before that, the Dragon Shogunate lasted for about 750
> years. So It's been 1,500 years since the Usurpation.
>
> 3,000 minus 1,500 is 1,500. 5,000 minus 1,500 is 3,500. The First Age
> lasted anywhere between 1,500 and 3,500 years. Since Chejop Kejak is
> said to be the oldest Sidereal, I suspect his lifespan is nearer to the
> long side of the scale than the short side. I'd bet on the First Age
> lasting at least 3,000 years.
>
> This means, I think, that the First Age was long enough for about two
> generations of Solars. The really decadent and evil ones were the ones
> that never experienced the Primordial War.

The length of the Primordial War is never explicitly given, either. It
is quite reasonable that some of the Exalted who began it were elders or
perhaps even dead of natural causes by the time it started.

Although if you died of old age during the First War, you probably
weren't trying very hard.
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"Richard Clayton"
> Stephenls wrote:

> > It's been 750 years since the Great Contagion and the founding of the
> > Scarlet Dynasty. Before that, the Dragon Shogunate lasted for about 750
> > years. So It's been 1,500 years since the Usurpation.
> >
> > 3,000 minus 1,500 is 1,500. 5,000 minus 1,500 is 3,500. The First Age
> > lasted anywhere between 1,500 and 3,500 years. Since Chejop Kejak is
> > said to be the oldest Sidereal, I suspect his lifespan is nearer to the
> > long side of the scale than the short side. I'd bet on the First Age
> > lasting at least 3,000 years.

> > This means, I think, that the First Age was long enough for about two
> > generations of Solars. The really decadent and evil ones were the ones
> > that never experienced the Primordial War.

> The length of the Primordial War is never explicitly given, either. It
> is quite reasonable that some of the Exalted who began it were elders or
> perhaps even dead of natural causes by the time it started.

I'm assuming you mean "by the time it ended" or "by the time the First Age
started". Correct?

> Although if you died of old age during the First War, you probably
> weren't trying very hard.

Heh. Indeed. ^_^

 

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Shane Graves wrote:
> "Richard Clayton"
>
>>Stephenls wrote:
>
>
>>>It's been 750 years since the Great Contagion and the founding of the
>>>Scarlet Dynasty. Before that, the Dragon Shogunate lasted for about 750
>>>years. So It's been 1,500 years since the Usurpation.
>>>
>>>3,000 minus 1,500 is 1,500. 5,000 minus 1,500 is 3,500. The First Age
>>>lasted anywhere between 1,500 and 3,500 years. Since Chejop Kejak is
>>>said to be the oldest Sidereal, I suspect his lifespan is nearer to the
>>>long side of the scale than the short side. I'd bet on the First Age
>>>lasting at least 3,000 years.
>
>
>>>This means, I think, that the First Age was long enough for about two
>>>generations of Solars. The really decadent and evil ones were the ones
>>>that never experienced the Primordial War.
>
>>The length of the Primordial War is never explicitly given, either. It
>>is quite reasonable that some of the Exalted who began it were elders or
>>perhaps even dead of natural causes by the time it started.
>
> I'm assuming you mean "by the time it ended" or "by the time the First Age
> started". Correct?

Um. Yeah.
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Stephenls wrote:
> We know Chejop Kejak was born very soon after the end of the Primordial
> War. Geoff said something like "He didn't see the war, but he saw
> pretty much everything afterwards." At the moment, he's about to die.
> Since Sidereals live anywhere between 3,000 to 5,000 years, this means
> we know roughly how long it's been since the beginning of the First Age.

Is it ever stated somewhere that Kejak isn't cheating and using
artifacts/hearthstones to further extend his lifespan? Because, y'know, it
seems like the sort of thing he'd do. "I must defy my Fate to protect all
of Fate!"

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accidentally being J. G. Frank.
Very annoying.

 

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J. H. Frank wrote:

> Is it ever stated somewhere that Kejak isn't cheating and using
> artifacts/hearthstones to further extend his lifespan? Because, y'know, it
> seems like the sort of thing he'd do. "I must defy my Fate to protect all
> of Fate!"

The Peaches of Immortality sidebar in Exalted: The Sidereals mentions
that Sidereal Exalts are utterly unable to magically extend their
lifespans by any means whatsoever.
--
Stephenls
Geek
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Stephenls wrote:
> J. H. Frank wrote:
> > Is it ever stated somewhere that Kejak isn't cheating and using
> > artifacts/hearthstones to further extend his lifespan? Because, y'know,
it
> > seems like the sort of thing he'd do. "I must defy my Fate to protect
all
> > of Fate!"
>
> The Peaches of Immortality sidebar in Exalted: The Sidereals mentions
> that Sidereal Exalts are utterly unable to magically extend their
> lifespans by any means whatsoever.

That'd do it.

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Richard Clayton <reZIGclaytonZIG@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<c6uevh$ge8sd$5@ID-224727.news.uni-berlin.de>...
> Stephenls wrote:


> The length of the Primordial War is never explicitly given, either. It
> is quite reasonable that some of the Exalted who began it were elders or
> perhaps even dead of natural causes by the time it started.

The Primordial War was long enough that breeding an army out of a
long-lived people was seen as a desireble strategy.

I assume there were some DAMN long seiges in that war.

> Although if you died of old age during the First War, you probably
> weren't trying very hard.

Or were very, very good. Both of them probably got teased by the
other Solars, though.

-Eric Tolle