Experiencing micro stuttering in gta 5

[Nedkic]

Hi guys, I'm experiencing micro stuttering in gta 5 and have tried enormous methods but none of them helps fix this problem.

When I am driving on the road real quick, I experience some slight lag and the lag is quite noticeable when I am turning left/right. There is no frame rate drop, I used afterburn, frap and shadowplay but every tool tells me that I'm running solid 60 fps (vsync). I've turned off the in game vsync as it only gives 59hz

I'm running with a i5-4460, 8gb 1600 ram, installed on an SSD and a gigabyte g1 gaming GTX970, with a dell u2515h 1440p monitor, run pretty smooth on other games like witcher 3/far cry 4.

I've tired like 5-6 methods on the internet but none of it works🙁

1. Turn on vsync/ turn off vsync/ use adaptive vsync/ triple buffering on or off/ turn off shader cache/ set maximum pre rendered frame to whatever no./ turn to always maximum performanc....None of it works lol

2. I notice when I'm driving real quick and when the CPU usage is >90% the microstuttering usually appeared. I have been told to reduce CPU usage by tuning down population density/variety/scaling distance....didn't notice a much improved performance.

There is something worth mentioning is that when I reach 90 up CPU usage, I press alt+tab then back to the game, the CPU usage surges down to mid 60s, worth a try if you experience the CPU overload problem

3. I have tried to unpark my CPU (learn that form YouTube tho I do not know the real tricks behind), but it does not help at all

4. Some say that turn off the self radio station and I have but it does not work

5. Some suggests that there is a memory leak problem existing in this game, when my 970 is running out of vram then it uses my ram instead, so I should get more ram. I haven't tried adding another ram as I'm skeptical about it with only 5gb ram usage when playing gta 5.

6. I've once doubted it's my gpu problem, then I tried to run the game in 1366 x 768, the microstuttering problem alleviates slightly but still exists. Besides when I'm running 1440p the vram is only around 3000mb and gpu usage is around 70%.

7. Been clean uninstalling the driver and reinstall the nvidia 353 (people say it's the most stable one)

8. Read it on reddit, there is a magical way to reduce microstuttering is to enable long shadow, tried, and it helps a little bit.

Thanks for reading such a long problem
TLDR: my gta 5 micro stuttering, and no frame rate is dropping

 

[MarkW]

I want you to think of yourself as an artist for a moment. One day, you walk into a room, that is empty. You sit down and draw the room. Since there is nothing but the walls in the room, you can draw it very quickly. The next day, you come back to the same room. While you were gone, someone came in and put shelves on the walls, lots of things on those shelves, furniture all over the place in this room, TV's hanging on the walls, pictures, and even carpets on the floors. You again sit down to draw this room. But this time, it is going to take you much longer to draw out the room due to all of the items now in it.

Your video card is affected the same way when the number of items changes. But instead of just what we humans see as objects, a video card is actually processing polygons. Triangles that are stacked up to create the shape and image of the item. So something that looks like 1 item to us, can be millions of polygons to a computer. And it takes time to process all of those polygons. Especially when the data for some of them is new to the video card, and has to be loaded from your storage (hard drive or SSD). And when that happens, the frame those new items showed up on takes longer than the previous frame that did not have those items in it. And that is when you notice the slowdown, which in GTA V is most noticeable when you come around a corner.

There is not yet any video card on the planet that can run a game like GTA V without slowing down. Even the mighty Titans will slow down in some scenes. Maybe not as often as a GTX 750Ti does, but it still slows down at times. Maybe in 10 years, 15 years, we will reach a point where the slowdowns are not noticeable, but today, every single one of us deals with them.

 

[Nedkic]

Appreciate it man
But seldom notice that in the ps4 version🙁
I have been to my local store and there are some sample PC running gta with a 970, I cannot say it's butter smooth but definitely look a little better than mine
Thanks for your detailed explain tho )

 

[MarkW]

PS4 runs at a lower refresh rate if I remember right, which means the game has double the time to produce each frame. So less slowdowns because of that.

 

[Nedkic]

Thanks for that! So basically it's gta problem? Have my new PC built a week ago so wondering if it's my problem 🙁
Thanks anyway

 

[MarkW]

I have watched a few Youtube videos of the game. And in most of them, you watch what happens right after they turn a corner, and it slows down some, and then bounces back up. So I think its common with that game. But this is not a GTA V only thing. Any demanding game will have this effect on the display at times. BF4 comes to mind when there is a big battle going on.

 

[Nedkic]

Alright thank you

 

[Nedkic]

Is my ram or vram enough?
After burn shows that I am using 5gb ram and 3gb vram...should I upgrade to 16gb ram?

 

[MarkW]

One thing I learned many years ago was that it never hurts to have more memory than you need. But at times, not having enough can be painful. So I have been putting 16GB of memory into the computers I build for a long time now. For me, its not even something I think about. And when I was facing the choice between a GTX 770 with 2GB or with 4GB, almost instantly, I went with the 4GB choice. Same reasoning. I had the money to do it. And I did. But I also understand that many people are just barely able to afford the parts that go into a system. And for them, asking them to spend another $40 to $50 on system memory would be a deal breaker. I understand that. I too have spent times in my life when I had no money.

If you decide to go to 16GB, do yourself a favor, and buy 2x 8GB of memory, and once you have that, sell your old memory. It will most likely save you a lot of headaches trying to get to different sets of memory working together.

 

[Nedkic]

I've purchased my ram last week...
Do I still have to sell my old one if I manage to buy the exact model? (Storage/frequency/brand)

 

[MarkW]

You can try them. Its like gambling. Sometimes you win. Much of the time you do not. And every now and then, you think you have won, and the casino manager sends someone over to tell you the machine malfunctioned, and no, you did not actually win anything.

The reason you want to buy a single kit is because the memory sticks in that kit have been tested to work together. The memory sticks from two exact kits have not been tested to work together. Memory is a complicated thing. We see a speed (1333, 1600, 1866) and we see 3 or four other timings. But memory really has dozens and dozens of settings. And each memory stick is different. And the referee in this game is not the memory. It is the memory controller on the CPU. The memory controller can end the game before it starts, at any time after that, or never. It is completely up to that memory controller.

Since its already ordered, try it. If the system doesn't work with both kits installed, I will ask someone here that has a whole lot more knowledge than me to come help.

 

[T5R92011]

The solution? DISABLE YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION.... no more stutter.

Why?

the DRM software in GTA 5 (when online) scans your RAM...which causes these stupid stutters.

When online, I get stutters with this spec:

i5 3570k (3.8ghz OC)
16GB RAM (4x 4GB modules 1600mhz in dual channel mode)
GTX 680 4GB VRAM
1TB Regular HDD with system managed pagefie

Disable the internet and my stutters go away.

Rockstar need to fix this problem.... try it and see.

 

[MarkW]

Something tells me that has something to do with your motherboard and ethernet controller, and you did not list what you have for either of those items.