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well here are the radiators, my problem is the configuration of them, simply too many possibilities, so if you could find the time to give your opinions, I would really appreciate it.
I also need advice on a type of shroud for the radiators, the purpose is to inshore good air flow through the radiator.
and lastly how to attach the fans to the radiators?



all advice is welcome and thank you

 
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I don't use a flow meter, never have, never will.

Having a picture of a flow meter does nothing to support a finding, especially when you cannot be 100% conclusive that it is reading correctly or you are accurately converting what is being reported. Does the flow meter registering on the pump without restriction show a flow rate that is close to the rated flow of the pump with your conversion?

If so, great, but if so, you're still running lower than 1.0 gpm on your loop, meaning your delta-T MUST be offset to calculate your cooling potential. Meaning - you have to over-rad to accomplish the same cooling ability that you could achieve with a higher flow. Adding cost of 3x 360 radiators ($60, example) starts to get expensive...
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For gaming, you really don't need anything beyond a Core i5. The GPU after that will always be the bottleneck to performance, and if then the CPU will be bottlenecking you to some ridiculous FPS anyway. Once you talking an FPS above 60, it doesn't matter as your monitor will be the bottleneck unless you have a 120hz.

What AMD/Intel CPU's are you going to compare? They would have to be at the same price-point to call it a fair comparison, a 3960X has no competition from AMD.
 
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Well i lost the FX8350 CPU today, it simply poped, no warring nothing, there one second gone the next. Darn thing gave out on me, so i will send it back and hope for a better one this time. Has any one else goten a bad CPU from AMD, this is the second one i have gotten in the past three years. Is this a trend with the newer AMD CPU's or am i jist unlucky?
 
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Decided to put the intel system in and make it work for now i am not to impressed with the system so far when compared to the AMD system both seem to be about the same as far as gaming only 4 o 7 FPS diffrence but i will continue to run it through a few more games to see how it works.

so this is what i came up with for now


the AMD is going in my dads anyway so i might as well get a start on it and get it out of mine.
 
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Ordered some new parts for this build today, so that i can get read of the air cooler on the CPU. I also got news that my RMA has been accepted, so i should be getting that back soon as well.
I might have to RMA one of the video cards as well, it is starting to do some real funny things in games, and some times the whole screen is covered in a red tint.
 
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Decided to RMA the video card as well today, I hope that this works OK, I always worry about the RMA process because I water cool, but I have never had a product denied. With that stated, I would also like to add that I have never returned a product that I had knowingly destroyed by my own actions. With that type of mistacks I simply accept the loss and go on.
 
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CORSAIR DOMINATOR 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP16GX3M4X1600C7
OK so this is the memory I got for this build. I will now start the final loop for this build, it will have the memory and SSD's on this loop. it will also all be mounted on or in the main case, the rad will be mounted on top of the case, and the resivior, off the back of the case.
 
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Well i must say that i like what i see coming from Intel, looks like I will be getting two DC S3700 200G SSD drives for this system, along with the memory upgrade I just got, this system should rock. I will be giving the two 120G 520series SSD's to my dad for his build.
 
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I put the new memory in 16GIG's now across 4 sticks, the system is no faster than before but the game play has gotten smother, now i have no 1/2 second slowdowns durring gameplay at all. Wonder what the new SSD DC S3700's will do for this system?
 
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Somthing i have noticed about the video cards in this system.
I have clocked the processor on the AMD system as well as this Intel system, and with both systems i have not needed to clock the video cards for the FPS to increse as the CPU clock goes up.
does that mean that i have yet to see how fast the cards really are?
 
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Ok so the more I learn about these thermal pads the more i hate them i have removed them from video cards, i have removed them from mother boards. Always to replace them with thermal paste. Now i have found yet another reason to remove them from where ever they may be found. The back plates on the video cards have a square peice of thermal padding on them, this pad will cause condensation to form on the top of the card around where the pad comes in contact with the card, so i have removed them from the back plates, problem solved cleaned up the mess and the cards work fine now.





 
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no, in my openion it is a design flaw, this is not this first time i have run into this issue. the first time was on motherboard mosfit that had them between the air cooler and the board after i changed the air cooling out, i bought some thermal pads to replace the ones that where there, and the same issue occured. i had condensation under the water block where the thermal pad came in contact with the mother board. so i removed them and replaced them with thermal paste and the issue did not return.
 
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Pads are used on areas where there is bad mounting from possibly:
a| bad machining/milling of block
b| uneven spots caused by warped PCB's

I've seen both of them on the Asus Rampage Extreme Fusion Block mod in my AMS build. Took a good amount of research to find out the culprit to that issue.

However You can't use TIM's in those places as they may evaporate, not making proper contact with the surface to IHS or heatsource.
 
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well there is a simple way to find out, there are a lot of people with backplates on there water cooled videocards. Would one of you nice people out there mind taking the back plate off of the video card to see if there is any condensation formming under the thermal pad?
 
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Ok so you might be wondering why I would spend the extra cash for an Intel 3700 series drive, it is not intended for home use, but for the price and it’s dependability, it should be in my opinion.
Well one reason is for the more consistent drive speeds it is easier for the CPU to handle this and as a result the drive speeds over all are faster.
The other reason for this purchase is the dependability of the SSD’s the units will run for ten years under normal home/gaming operation and I intend to prove that.
I am buying two of the Intel 3700’s for my father’s build as well, the 520’s will become cashing drives for both of the systems.
The issue that I have always had with SSD’s, is the fact that they fail consistently after 3 years, plus there are stability issues with this type of drive. Now that is not the case with the 3700 series SSD’s those issues have been resolved, so for me this was the right choice.
 
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Ok, so I have been using the 3700's for a week now, and I have noticed that the drives will get a little warm to the touch, so I will be water cooling the drives, they may not need it, but I have the hardware so why not, I planed on doing it to the other drives anyway, so I will do it to these instead.
 
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So my idea is to try and clean the wiring up again, it may not look like it, but this should remove about half of the wiring I had on the outside of the case, but it still looks ugly. I will have to try harder next time, plus I will be adding another power supply to the mix, so later this build will become a wiring nightmare again.
For now though I am upgrading the fans on the video loop, adding a third loop for the memory and SSD's, and cleaning up the wires some. I thank that about sums up what all I will be doing to the system.
 
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