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well here are the radiators, my problem is the configuration of them, simply too many possibilities, so if you could find the time to give your opinions, I would really appreciate it.
I also need advice on a type of shroud for the radiators, the purpose is to inshore good air flow through the radiator.
and lastly how to attach the fans to the radiators?



all advice is welcome and thank you

 
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I don't use a flow meter, never have, never will.

Having a picture of a flow meter does nothing to support a finding, especially when you cannot be 100% conclusive that it is reading correctly or you are accurately converting what is being reported. Does the flow meter registering on the pump without restriction show a flow rate that is close to the rated flow of the pump with your conversion?

If so, great, but if so, you're still running lower than 1.0 gpm on your loop, meaning your delta-T MUST be offset to calculate your cooling potential. Meaning - you have to over-rad to accomplish the same cooling ability that you could achieve with a higher flow. Adding cost of 3x 360 radiators ($60, example) starts to get expensive...
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Well what kind of overclock? if any? and IBT load temperatures are you getting from all that radiator and pump assembly?

It should be OK to ask that?, as this is the overclocking section, and I would think you went to all this trouble for some extremely good stress test load temperatures?
 
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Well the processor is clocked all the time to 4 GHz and the video cards are at 850 MHz all the time do you want me to clock it further?

The most that I have clocked the CPU was 4.6 GHz and the video cards I have clocked to 980 MHz with no real issues

As far as temps go, load temps are 43C max on the video cards at their current speed.

And the CPU will get to 55C max at its current speed.

but of course higher clocks mean higher temps but there is nothing out there that requires my to clock this system any further at 2048X1536 it can play everything out there at max settings, but as programing changes or I get a 4K monitor, I will upgrade or clock the system as necessary to meet those needs.
 
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Your welcome, I have had a lot of fun with this system so far, and I still have a lot to do with it, but it is coming along, slow, but I am getting there.
I have learned a lot and tried to show my results as I go, but I miss things all the time. I try and I think that I am getting better at not missing as much as I used to.
let me know if there is somthing that I could explain better, or give greater detail on ok?
 
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Ok so I have decided to change the CPU block on this build and would like to here others opinions on with one to go with. I am willing to spend $300 if needed for this block, so please be honest and suggest what ever block you think is the best one out there. I like the Aquacomputer Cuplex Kryos XT CPU block, but I am all ears(eyes) for other suggestions.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/15669/ex-blc-1092/Aquacomputer_Cuplex_Kryos_XT_Series_-_Nickel_Plated_-_Socket_LGA_2011_21585.html?tl=g30c323
 
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I think that block looks nice, but if you're talking about performance, I'd side any other block you have. Since you're loop is comprised of parallel runs, I'd ask you to go with a swiftech Apogee HD waterblock.

I like aquacomputer stuff nontheless, but that aesthetic on the waterblock isn't my fancy.
 
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ok so I have decided on the final build design for my TEC setup. I will have 6 CPU blocks in total each set of two will be bolted together with the TEC in between them. the Hot side CPU blocks are all metal blocks. both the hot side and the cold side will be a 3-way parallel configuration. I will have 3 400mm reservoirs linked in parallel as a cold bank for the cold loop. I hope that this makes since, if not I can try to answer specific questions. I have already tried a few different setups with a small loop design and came to the conclusion that this is the most efficient design that is capable of cooling my loop. the only difficult part will be figuring out at what voltage the TEC's will need to be at, for both the idol temps, and load temps. I am hoping that it will be as simple as having one TEC on at idol and all three TEC's on at load but we will see.
 
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Seeing as how I have been running TEC chilled water cooling now with my present setup in operation now over 13 solid months, I suggest you review the exploring below ambient water cooling thread, from the point that the peltier cooling was first introduced to the end of the thread.

Which all led to This Thread of guaranteed 100% successful TEC chilled water cooling, so hopefully you'll end up with successful cooling as well.

I would love to see you put together a fantastic system so use what I discovered that worked and did not work, because if it did not work for me it won't work for you either and you will loose a lot of time and money rediscovering what I've already proven.

No one here has experimented with TEC chilled water cooling as I have, so take what I have learned the hard way and use it for your benefit and don't make the same mistakes because they can be discouraging enough to cause you serious setbacks!

Standard CPU water blocks whether for hot or cold have to be flow modified, or they won't work, they are designed to pinpoint to the CPU die area and for cold or heat transfer the entire base must be accessed and that's a fact!

Reservoir wise it's best to just build one from scratch as I did, because it has to be insulated so looks won't make a lot of difference, and the water volume is inadequate, for 3 400mm reservoirs, you need enough volume for cold chilled water storage there is no getting around that.

These things are covered in the threads if you take the time to read over them, they were put there to help others design their own or duplicate what's already a proven cooling solution.

Sometimes the peltiers just flat out defy logic, and what seems feasible in the mind thought process, sometimes is the complete opposite when it comes to peltier chilled water cooling, as I think you've already discovered some of your ideas did not work already?

Good Luck! Ryan



 
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While I do agree with you that a TEC system needs to be a high flow system in order to function correctly, I do not think that it is necessary to alter the water blocks to achieve this result. I have created a high flow system by creating a 3-way parallel setup for the water to flow through the total system flow on the cold side will be 6.6LPM giving me the high flows I need to keep the system at a stable temperature. the issues that I was having, was because I wanted to use the little radiators in the build, and that did not work. this system will work though, I will complete the build and show you what I did, and hopefully be able to explain why it works.
 
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The difference is I have already discovered what works and what doesn't, you are now planning to sandwich the peltier between 2 water blocks is that not correct?

So with your new plan the water block on the cold side of the peltier will freeze up without flow modification to the water block, unless you use an anti-freeze coolant solution as I know you will probably be doing.

I do not use any type anti-freeze as my setup is not a below zero setup, if your intention is to go below zero you need to insulate the motherboard around and inside the socket.

I you do not insulate the motherboard the condensation will destroy your setup, I just want to make this perfectly clear, so anyone that decides to duplicate what you do, has all the facts.

The reason for water block flow modification was so I could run 100% steam distilled water without it freezing up, and splitting open the water block.

My cooling solution is below ambient but above zero, staying just above the point condensation begins to form.

 
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I understand that, and why you did it, and please do not get me wrong, I plane to show what I do, how I did it, and the results of what I have built. I do not plan to build a system that will destroy my hardware, neither would I recommend others doing so. I have been building my system up for this one reason, so that I can build a sustainable cooling solution that is a little above par when compared to the normal water cooling system. Much like you have done but I have a little different mindset about the issues that you ran into, and how to solve them, but your method is valid. Yes I use antifreeze, so the problem of the liquid freeing in the block will not be a issue for me, but too cold of water will be, if I do not balance the power of the TEC's used, with the heat that the system will produce under load, the water will become to cold, and that would damage the system. I will be paying close attention to the water temps as that is the real concern for this build.
 
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do not know about why other people build water cooling systems, but i build them to enjoy them, and i have been enjoying this rig a lot lately, playing titanfall. i do not play MMO games because thay normally would cost a monthly fee to play, but this one does not, and i have to say the the game its self is a lot of fun. I can not memorize the way other people will play, pluse thay learn from watching you and others play the game, so in many ways it continues to get harder all the time.
 
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ok so it has been 3 years and my memory popped today, so I am going to pull the whole system apart, clean all the blocks out, radiators, the whole lot. I do need new memory for this rig, any suggestions would be nice.
I will let you know how it looks, as I cant upload to image shack any more, they want money, so another free site would be nice to.
will be removing the water cooling on the memory and SSD's as it really did no good, but I wanted to try.
so the loop will be the CPU and 2 GPU's when I am done this time.
I will still keep the 3 way parallel setup on this system. that part works great.
 
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Unfortunately nothing lasts 4evr, I just went through a water pump failure and replaced it and did a total break down and inspection of the entire loop.

That break down and inspection was already on my got to get it done list anyway, it just came when it wanted, not when I wanted! :)

Have you tried Photobucket.com, they have a certain amount you can use free, at least they did when I originally joined, but I am a paid customer now because I have so many pictures stored, for my past roundups I did, but you don't have that much, so you should be able to use the free service?

What memory? DDR2? DDR3?
 
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