Fallout 4 running at below 30fps on my good pc

[vinsonvillanueva]

Alright folks so I have a pc with an i7-2600, 12gb 1600mhz ram, and an rx 570 4gb and fallout 4 STILL drops to below 30fps around diamond city and near swans lake or just pretty much anywhere in the big city and it's pissing me off because I just dropped 95 dollars on this cpu and literally nothing changed I would love to see what everyone has to say, oh and by the by I have my shadows at medium both quality and distance as well as God rays and am running about 67 mods but most are little things and it still does it without them. It'll run fine I have it capped at 30 to try to help, and it'll run fine but then once I get into the city I get lag spikes bringing me to 0-3 frames and then it mellows out at 30 again, the problem is I don't think it is standard load in stutter it does it and then is fine but when it does it it can last up to 20 seconds

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

Haha yes I followed that thread you linked to the T when I was using my i5 a few days ago before I cracked and bought the i7 thinking it would help, I've tried everything there

 

[boju]

I am using amd to keep it at 30 though instead of letting fallout do it. Is it odd that fallout 4 vsync is keeping me at 30?

Maybe, Vsync in games are often different how they perform than the driver's version. Thats why i thought to disable in-game's Vsync from having any affect and let the AMD driver take over.

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

Hmm I am using amd though now, ik my answer was a bit confusing to read. Unless you have got more for me that sticks out to you it's fine, I'll just play as is or play something else I just thought my new part would make a bigger difference. I really really appreciate the time and help you've put in though

 

[boju]

Ok so you've had AMD's Vsync on the whole time even when disabling Fallout's Vsync. Thought you had Vsync off in AMD when you disabled Fallout's Vsync, never mind.

If anything else pops up i'll let you know.

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

Oke doke, thanks again and sorry for the miscommunication!

 

[boju]

https://bethesda.net/community/topic/189569/the-less-cpu-cores-fallout-4-has-the-faster-it-loads-indoor-outdoor

This one here. Not to limit the game to two cores because that'll make things worse but you can have a go playing with affinity.

Further down the post theres mention of reducing 8 threads to 4 helped. Your i5 was 4c/4t so turning off hyper threading may help. The i7 is a stronger cpu so just putting it out there that hyper threading could be causing more issues.

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

Ok so you've had AMD's Vsync on the whole time even when disabling Fallout's Vsync. Thought you had Vsync off in AMD when you disabled Fallout's Vsync, never mind.

If anything else pops up i'll let you know.

https://bethesda.net/community/topic/189569/the-less-cpu-cores-fallout-4-has-the-faster-it-loads-indoor-outdoor

This one here. Not to limit the game to two cores because that'll make things worse but you can have a go playing with affinity.

Further down the post theres mention of reducing 8 threads to 4 helped. Your i5 was 4c/4t so turning off hyper threading may help. The i7 is a stronger cpu so just putting it out there that hyper threading could be causing more issues.

Nah that didn't help, more cores the better from what I've seen experimenting here thanks though! I'm still trying things here on my end, not to any great results either

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

My weekends are split in my schedule and I've been trying stuff all day for this part of my weekend so I might call it a day as far as fallout 4 optimization goes, but anything you put in here I'll try and get back to you about next time I get the chance

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

Okay so here is something really really weird. I tried downloading an enb called vogue enb and a shadow stutter decreasing mod, neither of them worked but when I deleted them the next time I opened fallout my frames are much much better, I still experience spikes that bring me down to zero but the performance in between is vastly improved. Like I said very very very weird.

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

I didn't have those the whole time though I just tried them now to see if they would help

 

[boju]

Maybe the changes made to shadows remained somehow

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

Maybe the changes made to shadows remained somehow

To my knowledge when I had the mods actually installed there was no positive change until after deletion! So odd

 

[madmatt30]

That ram setup ??

Are you running 6gb in each channel so you're still getting dual channel ??

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

I'm running 2x2gb corsair xms3 and 2x4gb corsair vengeance all at 1600mhz I'm assuming it's dual channel but I'm not sure

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

Oooooh I understand, no I'm not running 2x6gb but I only installed the extra 2x2gb today! Didn't make much of a difference in fallout 4 though (it made a huge difference in an awesome game called kenshi but that's besides the point)

 

[boju]

Think Madmatt30 meant bank a and b, he knows 6GB dimms don't exist.

Read your manual where to place for dual channel memory with four sticks.

A1 and B1 slots = 4GB sticks
A2 and B2 slots = 2GB sticks

Says in the manual A1 and B1 need to be identical in size and same for A2 & B2.

So the closest dimm slot from cpu is A1 and 3rd slot from A1 is B1. Those two slots have the 4GB sticks or 2GBs, not mixed. Ie, if have A1 4GB & B1 2GB would knock out dual channel.

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

Yeah of course, it goes from left to right: vengeance then xms3 then vengeance then xms3 in that order. Vengeance in the corresponding 1 slots and xms in the corresponding 2 slots

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

Gosh, sorry I'm such a noob this is my first build since ip-35 and a core 2 duo

 

[boju]

All good


Id say you had it right though, the Vengeance ram in A1 and B1. Xms in A2 and B2.

Either way, long as each bank is the same capacity. Could have A1 and B1 with 2GBs and A2 and B2 the 4GBs

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

I had the ram in right I just didn't understand the question is all haha. I also had no idea there is no such thing as 2x6gb. But anyways I think for now my fallout 4 is as good as it's going to run for me I feel as if I've exhausted every option available. Really and seriously thank you to all of you who answered my post I've been working at optimizing fallout 4 to my pc to no avail for almost a week and have gone through a processor upgrade to no avail, but all the posting going on here I think I just need a better pc in general or to give in to the choppiness and deal with it. But honestly I don't think I'll do a new build just for fallout as this runs all my other games with ease. Fallout is just my favorite series and has been since the dawn of fallout haha even played the on-the-down-low tabletop rpg for a time. Just wish fallout 4 ran better :/ at least new vegas is flawless and a new run through is probably due anyways. Thanks again everybody on here really appreciate all the feedback and assist throughout they day I didn't expect such good timing on responses or consistency on responses throughout the day, it was awesome! Special thanks to boju for doing all that research today for this fallout nerd

 

[boju]

Gota love PCs and all the drama it can cause lol

 

[vinsonvillanueva]

You speak the truth haha, but when it works the detail and frames are worth it! One last question ik it might not belong here but the rx 570 4gb I'm running is it a good gpu for gaming? I bought it on a whim at frys electronics with little or no research, if it's not too difficult to answer, is it on par with any specific modern nvidia gpu?

 

[boju]

Yea no worries. Just below a GTX 1060 / GTX 980.

Hang on and maybe upgrade next gen along with going Ryzen for your next build

 

[Maebius]

If you're very far into the game and have placed lots of structures etc Fallout 4 gets pretty cpu demanding. Also, most mods obviously add to the game's CPU use.
Check a very early savegame (like when you first get to your base) to see what your FPS is.
Assuming you're playing at 1920x1080 you should be comfortably getting close to 60FPS there on medium settings.
My non-overclocked 2500k with a GTX 970 was around that, quite comfortably I might add.

 

[clembez]

Alright folks so I have a pc with an i7-2600, 12gb 1600mhz ram, and an rx 570 4gb and fallout 4 STILL drops to below 30fps around diamond city and near swans lake or just pretty much anywhere in the big city and it's pissing me off because I just dropped 95 dollars on this cpu and literally nothing changed I would love to see what everyone has to say, oh and by the by I have my shadows at medium both quality and distance as well as God rays and am running about 67 mods but most are little things and it still does it without them. It'll run fine I have it capped at 30 to try to help, and it'll run fine but then once I get into the city I get lag spikes bringing me to 0-3 frames and then it mellows out at 30 again, the problem is I don't think it is standard load in stutter it does it and then is fine but when it does it it can last up to 20 seconds

I had this problem. Its to do with the Vsync. I had a 2600 and a 390 and it ran perfect after fiddling around a bit. Your specs are fine and should get 60fps all the time if you keep god rays off and lower shadow details etc a bit. Try "Dynamic V-Sync" i think it was on the Radeon control panel. Nvidia its "force adaptive vsync" or something. This solved my problem when it was doing this.