finding psu 350-400w upgrade p6724y hp pc

[silversleeper]

Hello everyone, I need help with finding the proper 350w - 400w psu that will work with my HP p6725y PC... I am going to upgrade my video card to GeForce GT 620 2GB GDDR3 VGA/DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card and when I look at e-bay or egghead and similiar sites I just can not figure which one will work... some have some of the connectors listed and some have others listed but do not seem to have all the connectors as list... Can someone please help me sort this out and tell me what my options are... Thanks Tim

the internal connectors on my p6724y say:

[/list]One 24-pin ATX Connector
One 4-pin ATX power connector
Four SATA Connectors
Two 12V fans for CPU fan and PC fan
One 9-Pin header for power button, reset, power LED and HDD LED
One 9-pin audio header for headphone-out and Microphone-in (yellow requires matching front audio jack module)
One SPDIF out header
Two USB headers supporting 4 USB ports or devices.

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[capt_taco]

I think that if you leave the power supply as-is and plug the new card in, there is an 85% chance it will work with no trouble.

The 15% chance that it will not work is if the card actually DOES overload the power supply, in which case you could see the system crash when the card is under load (e.g., during intense gaming).

It shouldn't overload the PSU. Most benchmark tests have the entire machine topping out below 200W with a GTX 750 under full load (or less, usually under 175-185W). Your power supply is 250W and should have room for that. The GTX 750 really doesn't use much power, under 70W.

http://www.geeks3d.com/20140409/asus-geforce-gtx-750-gtx750-phoc-1gd5-review/
http://www.custompcreview.com/reviews/review-pny-geforce-gtx-750-gtx-750-ti-gtx-750-ti-oc/20343/14/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-and-750-ti-review,5.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-review,3750-21.html

The only thing I can think might go wrong is if your power supply is bunk quality or has deteriorated significantly with age, and therefore falls well short of what it says it can deliver. If that is the case, it would become overloaded and you would see the system suddenly shut off during intense gaming. That's a sign that you would need a stronger power supply. But it should work. Can't guarantee anything 100%, of course, but it's my best shot.

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

Get a EVGA 500B

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $32.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-30 20:29 EDT-0400

 

[silversleeper]

sweet... got it...

I think that if you leave the power supply as-is and plug the new card in, there is an 85% chance it will work with no trouble.

The 15% chance that it will not work is if the card actually DOES overload the power supply, in which case you could see the system crash when the card is under load (e.g., during intense gaming).

It shouldn't overload the PSU. Most benchmark tests have the entire machine topping out below 200W with a GTX 750 under full load (or less, usually under 175-185W). Your power supply is 250W and should have room for that. The GTX 750 really doesn't use much power, under 70W.

http://www.geeks3d.com/20140409/asus-geforce-gtx-750-gtx750-phoc-1gd5-review/
http://www.custompcreview.com/reviews/review-pny-geforce-gtx-750-gtx-750-ti-gtx-750-ti-oc/20343/14/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-and-750-ti-review,5.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-750-ti-review,3750-21.html

The only thing I can think might go wrong is if your power supply is bunk quality or has deteriorated significantly with age, and therefore falls well short of what it says it can deliver. If that is the case, it would become overloaded and you would see the system suddenly shut off during intense gaming. That's a sign that you would need a stronger power supply. But it should work. Can't guarantee anything 100%, of course, but it's my best shot.

 

[capt_taco]

Get a EVGA 500B

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $32.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-30 20:29 EDT-0400

Forget that, even better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $25.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-31 03:18 EDT-0400

Yes, that's correct, $25 for a 550W high Tier 2A unit. Massive rebate on top of a discount for the next two days, and free shipping.

Christ, that's such a good deal I'm going to pick one up myself right this minute, even though I don't have anything in particular to build at the moment.

 

[silversleeper]

Get a EVGA 500B

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $32.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-30 20:29 EDT-0400

WOW, You are AWESOME Thanks the is a great deal...
Forget that, even better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $25.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-31 03:18 EDT-0400

Yes, that's correct, $25 for a 550W high Tier 2A unit. Massive rebate on top of a discount for the next two days, and free shipping.

Christ, that's such a good deal I'm going to pick one up myself right this minute, even though I don't have anything in particular to build at the moment.

 

[silversleeper]

Is this the EVGA-GEFORCE GTX 750 CARD you are talking about? if so why is this superclocked cheaper than a regular GTX 750

http://

Get a EVGA 500B

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($32.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $32.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-30 20:29 EDT-0400

Forget that, even better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: XFX TS 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $25.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-31 03:18 EDT-0400

Yes, that's correct, $25 for a 550W high Tier 2A unit. Massive rebate on top of a discount for the next two days, and free shipping.

Christ, that's such a good deal I'm going to pick one up myself right this minute, even though I don't have anything in particular to build at the moment.

 

[capt_taco]

I was actually talking about this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487027

But it looks like in the Newegg search, the one you picked comes up as $89.99, which is a SUPER good deal, $40 less than the regular price. When you click on it, it goes back to $129.99 with a rebate, though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487026

There must have been some special that just ended, or it could be a mistake on their site. I would live chat with their support and tell them - if it comes up in search at a particular price, they will usually let you order it directly at that price if you ask. Don't forget to send in the rebate.

 

[silversleeper]

Do you know where I can find this answer at.... I tried HP Contact and they want $19.95 to answer the question WTF

EVGA needs to know if I have a slimline/low-profile case/tower or not... I've search high and low and can not find anything definitive
Hi Tim,
I would suggest to contact HP to see if they can determine if you have a slimline/low-profile case/tower or not.

That would be the entire dimensions of the case/tower but not the PCI brackets that the video card would place into. If you look at the back of the tower where you would plug in your monitor, or USB devices, there are flat panels that are identical. There are usually about 3-6 of them. That is where the PCI brackets are.

I was actually talking about this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487027

But it looks like in the Newegg search, the one you picked comes up as $89.99, which is a SUPER good deal, $40 less than the regular price. When you click on it, it goes back to $129.99 with a rebate, though.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487026

There must have been some special that just ended, or it could be a mistake on their site. I would live chat with their support and tell them - if it comes up in search at a particular price, they will usually let you order it directly at that price if you ask. Don't forget to send in the rebate.

 

[silversleeper]

I sent the EVGA guy my computer case specs, but he says that does not tell him whether it's a slimline tower/case or not

Computer Case

hide
Mid-size ATX
Height: 38.7 cm (15.23 inches)
Width: 17.5 cm (6.89 inches)
Length: 41.4 cm (16.29 inches)
Bay size Total Bays*
13.33 cm (5.25 inch) 2
8.89 cm (3.5 inch) 3
* Bays may be occupied by existing hardware.


Your Answer:

Hi Tim,

That would be the entire dimensions of the case/tower but not the PCI brackets that the video card would place into. If you look at the back of the tower where you would plug in your monitor, or USB devices, there are flat panels that are identical. There are usually about 3-6 of them. That is where the PCI brackets are.

I would suggest to contact HP to see if they can determine if you have a slimline/low-profile case/tower or not.

Thank you,
EVGA Support

 

[capt_taco]

If this is your computer, it looks like a normal case and a normal motherboard to me:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c02788950#N175

motherboard:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01903990&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en#N85

A nice bonus: It says the motherboard also supports Q8000 and Q9000 series quad-core CPUs. So what I'd do in your shoes is this:

- Get the GTX 750 AND the XFX power supply now, while they're both on sale
- Whenever you can round up another $40 or so, get a used Q9400 on ebay and drop that in
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2-Quad-Q9400-2-66-GHz-Quad-Core-BX80580Q9400-Processor-/201206054637?pt=CPUs&hash=item2ed8d0beed

Then you'll have a machine that is actually not too bad for gaming. Because after this video card, it'll be the CPU that holds you back. This still won't be the best machine in the world, but if you can't afford a new one entirely, this will work for you for 2-3 more years. Whenever you're ready to build a new machine (this will give you experience) you can probably keep the same power supply, and sell the other components back for close to what you paid for them.

By the way, if you can get a Q9500, Q9550, etc. for about the same price, that's up to you; they will be slightly faster but really not that big a deal. The main thing would be getting onto a quad-core instead of an old dual-core.

 

[silversleeper]

Check this out
I asked Customer service Tech support at EVGA if the GTX 750 is compatible with my motherboard and they said NO because my motherboard is too old.... I said what.... Below is the dialog....


EVGA Support Email

miami484@gmail.com, thank you for contacting the EVGA Customer Service Team. My name is Erin Washington and I will answer your question today.
Your Answer:




Hi Tim,

That board is rather old, and unless there is a recent BIOS update for it will likely have compatibility issues with the 750 card. You may want to look into something in the 600-series family instead.

Regards,
EVGA Support
Your Question:

Customer Comment or Question

Name: tim louis
Email Address: miami484@gmail.com
Subject: Motherboard Specifications H-I41-uATX (Eton)
Comment:
Motherboard Specifications H-I41-uATX (Eton) is my motherboard compatible with the EVGA 01G-P4-2753-KR G-SYNC Support GeForce GTX 750 Superclocked 1GB 128-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 Video Card
Thanks Tim

If this is your computer, it looks like a normal case and a normal motherboard to me:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c02788950#N175

motherboard:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01903990&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en#N85

A nice bonus: It says the motherboard also supports Q8000 and Q9000 series quad-core CPUs. So what I'd do in your shoes is this:

- Get the GTX 750 AND the XFX power supply now, while they're both on sale
- Whenever you can round up another $40 or so, get a used Q9400 on ebay and drop that in
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2-Quad-Q9400-2-66-GHz-Quad-Core-BX80580Q9400-Processor-/201206054637?pt=CPUs&hash=item2ed8d0beed

Then you'll have a machine that is actually not too bad for gaming. Because after this video card, it'll be the CPU that holds you back. This still won't be the best machine in the world, but if you can't afford a new one entirely, this will work for you for 2-3 more years. Whenever you're ready to build a new machine (this will give you experience) you can probably keep the same power supply, and sell the other components back for close to what you paid for them.

By the way, if you can get a Q9500, Q9550, etc. for about the same price, that's up to you; they will be slightly faster but really not that big a deal. The main thing would be getting onto a quad-core instead of an old dual-core.

 

[silversleeper]

I already installed a xonar dgx sound car and it fit and works no problem, so would that tell me that that I have a full size case and not a slimline?

 

[silversleeper]

I am sorry for all the questions go back and forth, it's just that every time we both collaborated on the best solution, something changes.... agggggggggh The window is pretty close to my computer desk so I feel like throwing my computer out the window LOL

 

[silversleeper]

If this is your computer, it looks like a normal case and a normal motherboard to me:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c02788950#N175

What gets me is that I gave EVGA the dims of my case and a pic of my motherboard and he could not figure out if it was Slim-line or not... If you have both the dims of the case and picture of the motherboard what other data would they need to make a definitive answer on which size card I need to buy?

motherboard:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01903990&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en#N85

A nice bonus: It says the motherboard also supports Q8000 and Q9000 series quad-core CPUs. So what I'd do in your shoes is this:

- Get the GTX 750 AND the XFX power supply now, while they're both on sale
- Whenever you can round up another $40 or so, get a used Q9400 on ebay and drop that in
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2-Quad-Q9400-2-66-GHz-Quad-Core-BX80580Q9400-Processor-/201206054637?pt=CPUs&hash=item2ed8d0beed

Then you'll have a machine that is actually not too bad for gaming. Because after this video card, it'll be the CPU that holds you back. This still won't be the best machine in the world, but if you can't afford a new one entirely, this will work for you for 2-3 more years. Whenever you're ready to build a new machine (this will give you experience) you can probably keep the same power supply, and sell the other components back for close to what you paid for them.

By the way, if you can get a Q9500, Q9550, etc. for about the same price, that's up to you; they will be slightly faster but really not that big a deal. The main thing would be getting onto a quad-core instead of an old dual-core.

 

[capt_taco]

They may have a point about the BIOS compatibility. I doubt there is a recent BIOS update; companies like HP want you to buy a new computer, not upgrade the video card, so they only issue updates to fix problems, not increase compatibility. That's just part of the problems that come with old machines, and especially old prebuilt machines.

In that case, I'd say go back to the 6670 idea, and don't worry about upgrading the CPU later. Realistically the best option is to build a new machine, even a budget one will be better than an old dual-core, and just do this to get you through the next year or so.

I would still grab that XFX power supply though, if you are planning on building your own next time - it is a good unit and you will be able to re-use that.

 

[silversleeper]

ok, the 6670 is the radon card right? also I am sure that I have a full size case and not a slim line so I can just look for and buy the regular size card?

They may have a point about the BIOS compatibility. I doubt there is a recent BIOS update; companies like HP want you to buy a new computer, not upgrade the video card, so they only issue updates to fix problems, not increase compatibility. That's just part of the problems that come with old machines, and especially old prebuilt machines.

In that case, I'd say go back to the 6670 idea, and don't worry about upgrading the CPU later. Realistically the best option is to build a new machine, even a budget one will be better than an old dual-core, and just do this to get you through the next year or so.

I would still grab that XFX power supply though, if you are planning on building your own next time - it is a good unit and you will be able to re-use that.

 

[capt_taco]

That's right, it's the Radeon card; I'd just grab that used on ebay. Lots of people selling them for $60-$70, but you can definitely find them for more like $30. In your situation, I'm guessing that being neatly packaged in the original box isn't worth double the price. Anyway, here's a few to look at:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-Radeon-HD-6670-Core-Edition-HD-667X-CDF3-/201207153222?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2ed8e18246

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-Radeon-HD-6670-1GB-128-bit-DDR3-PCI-Express-2-1-Video-Card-/331328266830?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4d24b4224e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-AMD-Radeon-HD-6670-GV-R667D3-1GI-1-GB-DDR3-SDRAM-PCI-Express-x16-/121466008734?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item1c47f0349e

 

[silversleeper]

http://

How about this one?

XFX AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB GDDR3 VGA/DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card

They may have a point about the BIOS compatibility. I doubt there is a recent BIOS update; companies like HP want you to buy a new computer, not upgrade the video card, so they only issue updates to fix problems, not increase compatibility. That's just part of the problems that come with old machines, and especially old prebuilt machines.

In that case, I'd say go back to the 6670 idea, and don't worry about upgrading the CPU later. Realistically the best option is to build a new machine, even a budget one will be better than an old dual-core, and just do this to get you through the next year or so.

I would still grab that XFX power supply though, if you are planning on building your own next time - it is a good unit and you will be able to re-use that.

 

[capt_taco]

http://

How about this one?

XFX AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB GDDR3 VGA/DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card

Well, yeah, but it's literally the exact same card as the first one in the post above, but for double the price. You'd basically be paying $30 for the box.

Since the GTX 750/Q9400 idea probably won't work, the idea is just to get an OK graphics card while spending as little as possible, until you're ready for your next machine.

 

[silversleeper]

yes,
ok, how about for sh*t and giggles what about this card, EVGA GT640
New EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GT 640 2GB DDR3 2DVI/Mini HDMI PCI-Express Video Card
http://

side by side Radeon 6670 V. EVGA GT 640
http://

http://

How about this one?

XFX AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB GDDR3 VGA/DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card

Well, yeah, but it's literally the exact same card as the first one in the post above, but for double the price. You'd basically be paying $30 for the box.

Since the GTX 750/Q9400 idea probably won't work, the idea is just to get an OK graphics card while spending as little as possible, until you're ready for your next machine.

 

[silversleeper]

check this out REFURBISHED evga gt640 for $65. with free shipping and free 30 day trial period for PREMIER
It's like $20. more than some of the used 6670 on e-bay...

url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130867&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Desktop+Graphics+Cards-_-N82E16814130867&gclid=CPG7kfHb18ECFRY0aQodtSsA4w]http://[/url]

http://

How about this one?

XFX AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB GDDR3 VGA/DVI/HDMI PCI-Express Video Card

Well, yeah, but it's literally the exact same card as the first one in the post above, but for double the price. You'd basically be paying $30 for the box.

Since the GTX 750/Q9400 idea probably won't work, the idea is just to get an OK graphics card while spending as little as possible, until you're ready for your next machine.

 

[capt_taco]

The GT640 is a worse card than the 6670 ... check out the list maintained on this site, it's literally on the 15th tier down:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

The 6670 is not the greatest in the world either, but it's a few tiers above that.

Seriously, though. For a machine that looks to be about 8 years old, don't bother paying more for new or "refurbished" (basically reboxed) parts unless you're planning on using them again in your next PC. Used system, used parts is fine..

 

[silversleeper]

BEST ANSWER

Ok, cool thanks for all of your help.... everything should be sorted now.... I very much appreciate all the time/research and recommendations....

The GT640 is a worse card than the 6670 ... check out the list maintained on this site, it's literally on the 15th tier down:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

The 6670 is not the greatest in the world either, but it's a few tiers above that.

Seriously, though. For a machine that looks to be about 8 years old, don't bother paying more for new or "refurbished" (basically reboxed) parts unless you're planning on using them again in your next PC. Used system, used parts is fine..

 

[capt_taco]

Not a problem; we were all in the same boat when we started, so glad to be of help

 

[silversleeper]

cool

Not a problem; we were all in the same boat when we started, so glad to be of help