Question First build upgrade help? im unsure what to do.

[Pvader123456]

Hi everyone, the following is link to my first pc build from 2019. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gXh96s

I want to have a better pc in preparation for newer games, so i was wondering would it be better to build it new OR change change out my current GPU with a 4070 super or something and maybe adding 16gb more ram?

Basically im asking new gpu and more ram in my current build OR build a new PC???

Thoughts>>

 

[Math Geek]

what is your pc not doing now that you want/need it to do?

trying to guess what might or might not be needed in the future is a futile effort. until your pc is not meeting your needs, upgrading is a waste of money. save your cash and when your pc is finally not meeting your needs, then decide what to upgrade based on that info.

 

[Pvader123456]

what is your pc not doing now that you want/need it to do?

trying to guess what might or might not be needed in the future is a futile effort. until your pc is not meeting your needs, upgrading is a waste of money. save your cash and when your pc is finally not meeting your needs, then decide what to upgrade based on that info.

Well NOTHING crazy now, but i feel liek my GPU and stuff wont be good enough for games like mosnter hunter wilds when i wanna play at top graphic quality. I just like rather be future proof for a while thus i wanna upgrade. HOWEVER i dont plan on doing anyhting till next year so im fine with either option.

 

[Math Geek]

if your trigger finger is getting itchy, then bumping up to 32 gb ram would be the way to go for now.

next year new gpu's should be out so they'll be part of the gpu upgrade question/answer. so honestly, you should ask that question when your ready to buy. so much will change between now and then. new models, price changes, the requirements of future games and so on and so on.

it's to easy to just say "buy a 4090 and you'll be good to go" but in 6 months that may not be the easy answer to give.

 

[Pvader123456]

if your trigger finger is getting itchy, then bumping up to 32 gb ram would be the way to go for now.

next year new gpu's should be out so they'll be part of the gpu upgrade question/answer. so honestly, you should ask that question when your ready to buy. so much will change between now and then. new models, price changes, the requirements of future games and so on and so on.

it's to easy to just say "buy a 4090 and you'll be good to go" but in 6 months that may not be the easy answer to give.

HMMM okay i was thinking about more ram for a while now. I assume i can jsut buy 2 more for the same sticks and plug it in and it should be fine? i wouldnt have to doo anythign? Also i get ya, i was th8inking to wait for the 5000 series too so lets soo. But ya lmk bout how to install ram, but i assume its unplug power completely and add to motehr board 2 open slots

 

[Math Geek]

you got a 50/50 shot at 2 identical sticks working with no issues. sometimes it's an easy drop in and it's fine. other times, the system hates the new sticks and refuses to boot.

no one can say which you will experience. being that you are at the slower end of the ram, you raise the chances of it working. higher clocked or manually oc'ed ram has a lot more stability issues.

i'd go for a new 32gb set (2 x 16) and sell you current set to cover the cost difference. just to know 100% it'll work

but you def got the right install idea, unplug system, fill extra slots, then power it up and see what the mobo does. it's a good idea to turn off any oc on the ram before so it stays at the default lower speeds. then when it boots, you can go in and slowly dial up the speed if you desire.

 

[Lafong]

If you want to move from 16 to 32 RAM, the best move would be to buy 32 new in a kit of 2 sticks of 16 each. Rather than adding 16 to your existing 16.

You are using DDR 4. If you build a new system next year using then current motherboards, it would probably require DDR 5. Your current DDR 4 would be useless on a board requiring DDR 5.

 

[Pvader123456]

you got a 50/50 shot at 2 identical sticks working with no issues. sometimes it's an easy drop in and it's fine. other times, the system hates the new sticks and refuses to boot.

no one can say which you will experience. being that you are at the slower end of the ram, you raise the chances of it working. higher clocked or manually oc'ed ram has a lot more stability issues.

i'd go for a new 32gb set (2 x 16) and sell you current set to cover the cost difference. just to know 100% it'll work

but you def got the right install idea, unplug system, fill extra slots, then power it up and see what the mobo does. it's a good idea to turn off any oc on the ram before so it stays at the default lower speeds. then when it boots, you can go in and slowly dial up the speed if you desire.

AHH okie that makes sense, ill look into new sticks! do you know where i could sell old ones?

 

[Pvader123456]

If you want to move from 16 to 32 RAM, the best move would be to buy 32 new in a kit of 2 sticks of 16 each. Rather than adding 16 to your existing 16.

You are using DDR 4. If you build a new system next year using then current motherboards, it would probably require DDR 5. Your current DDR 4 would be useless on a board requiring DDR 5.

for the ddr4, should i make sure to get ddr4 ram for the new ones?

 

[Lafong]

for the ddr4, should i make sure to get ddr4 ram for the new ones?

Yes.

If you continue to use that motherboard, you need to use DDR 4.

Sell the old DDR 4 on ebay or wherever else you can think of. Maybe you can get 10 or 15 bucks for 16 GB?

 

[Pvader123456]

Yes.

If you continue to use that motherboard, you need to use DDR 4.

Sell the old DDR 4 on ebay or wherever else you can think of. Maybe you can get 10 or 15 bucks for 16 GB?

Oooo okie okie makes sense!! thank you!!!

 

[geofelt]

Today, new builds are opting for 32gb.
But, do you really need more than 16gb?
Unless you have many active tasks open while gaming, perhaps not.

When actively running, open task manager, open the resource monitor/memory tab.
Look at the hard fault rate column.
If you see anything much more than zero, you can use more ram.

Still, if you have the itch, go ahead and buy a 2 x 16gb kit of DDR4. About $50.
Intel does not depend on fast ram speed for performance and compatibility is not likely to be an issue.

DDR4 is still useful on 13/14th gen intel and 5000 series AMD
DDR5 is current on latest intel or ryzen.
But, since there is no "future proofing" you can expect to see DDR6:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/223...ady-know-about-the-upcoming-ram-standard.html

The advice from Math-Geek to buy what you need when you need it is good advice.

 

[Pvader123456]

Today, new builds are opting for 32gb.
But, do you really need more than 16gb?
Unless you have many active tasks open while gaming, perhaps not.

When actively running, open task manager, open the resource monitor/memory tab.
Look at the hard fault rate column.
If you see anything much more than zero, you can use more ram.

Still, if you have the itch, go ahead and buy a 2 x 16gb kit of DDR4. About $50.
Intel does not depend on fast ram speed for performance and compatibility is not likely to be an issue.

DDR4 is still useful on 13/14th gen intel and 5000 series AMD
DDR5 is current on latest intel or ryzen.
But, since there is no "future proofing" you can expect to see DDR6:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/223...ady-know-about-the-upcoming-ram-standard.html

The advice from Math-Geek to buy what you need when you need it is good advice.

SO u think for now ill be fine with 16gb if i wanna play monster hunter wildss?> i do close everyhting when i play