First Build with Son ($600 -$700)

[frank_james]

Would like build a PC with my son to teach him to build something. Want him to create and problem solve. I have never built a PC but have done some research and this seems like a good thing for both of us to work through. We love solving problems. I know I want an intel quad core processor and we do not need a gaming video card. do not plan to use for gaming. Just want a PC to get online, and do homework. Gaming will come later if he wants to.

Would like to spend between $600 - $700.

Also need wifi to get online.

 

[Hellfire13]

Something like this would suffice your requirement...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-7700 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($281.49 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-B250M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($149.88 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair - SPEC-01 RED ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $656.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 15:00 EDT-0400


But this will be better value in the long run...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI - B350 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX AM4 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1050 2GB Mini Video Card ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($36.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $723.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 15:03 EDT-0400

 

[vapour]

The CPU comes with HD 610 GPU, so no GPU is needed You may add a decent GPU up to 1060 with the same CPU in the future and still keep under $700 with the GPU. Use SSD as boot drive and you will find it really fast

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - Z270-A PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($91.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot - Viper Elite 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Case: Deepcool - TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($35.89 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link - TL-WN821N USB 2.0 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($15.43 @ Amazon)
Total: $453.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 15:04 EDT-0400

 

[Zerk2012]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-7600 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - H270 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($88.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($86.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus - DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte - GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($38.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $674.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 15:12 EDT-0400

 

[King Dranzer]

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-8600K ($230.00)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASUS PRIME Z370-P ($120.00)
Memory: Mushkin - Silverline 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.69 @ OutletPC)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC55BT B1 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($33.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $731.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 15:13 EDT-0400

Coffeelake will be out in 2-3Weeks get it. It will have 6Cores instead of 4Cores as previous gen processors.

 

[Hlsgsz]

Would like build a PC with my son to teach him to build something. Want him to create and problem solve. I have never built a PC but have done some research and this seems like a good thing for both of us to work through. We love solving problems. I know I want an intel quad core processor and we do not need a gaming video card. do not plan to use for gaming. Just want a PC to get online, and do homework. Gaming will come later if he wants to.

Would like to spend between $600 - $700.

Also need wifi to get online.

Wait a couple of weeks, so you can get a 6 core i5-8400 for ~$190 or a quad core i3-8100 for ~$120. Theres simply no use in getting anything Intel today. Even if you don't go 8th gen, prices on 7th gen are bound to go down significantly ebcause of the increase in core count on the new gen, in which case, grab a cheap i7 7700(k).

 

[Hellfire13]

Coffe lake prices will be all over the place on launch due to hype... https://www.anandtech.com/show/11843/prices-of-intels-coffee-lakes-cpus-published-400-for-core-i78700k
If you wait out a while and then go for it, its should be a better investment.
The board prices are yet to be finalized by the aft vendors though. Anything you see before launch will be more of speculation.

 

[logainofhades]

It is awesome that you are doing this, for your son like this. I know you wanted intel, but an R5 1600 is such a great price/performance CPU. He may not need all that multitasking power, but it should add some longevity to the system. The graphics would allow for light gaming, should he decide he wants to, or can easily be upgraded to something like a GTX 1060 6gb, without changing the power supply.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($196.44 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($77.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate - FireCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($75.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GT 1030 2GB Video Card ($66.99 @ B&H)
Case: DIYPC - Alnitak-BK ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ B&H)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($92.99 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus - PCE-AC55BT B1 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($33.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $699.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-09-25 16:32 EDT-0400

 

[frank_james]

Would like build a PC with my son to teach him to build something. Want him to create and problem solve. I have never built a PC but have done some research and this seems like a good thing for both of us to work through. We love solving problems. I know I want an intel quad core processor and we do not need a gaming video card. do not plan to use for gaming. Just want a PC to get online, and do homework. Gaming will come later if he wants to.

Would like to spend between $600 - $700.

Also need wifi to get online.

Wait a couple of weeks, so you can get a 6 core i5-8400 for ~$190 or a quad core i3-8100 for ~$120. Theres simply no use in getting anything Intel today. Even if you don't go 8th gen, prices on 7th gen are bound to go down significantly ebcause of the increase in core count on the new gen, in which case, grab a cheap i7 7700(k).

THanks for this info I think im going to wait for the 8th gen to come out.

 

[Hellfire13]

Good decision.

 

[logainofhades]

Given how close it is to release, it really isn't a bad idea to wait, and see how it shakes up prices, and price/performance.

 

[ohiou_grad_2006]

Not a bad idea to wait. Though if he's not going to game, the Ryzen will be better value. You could even go with something like a Ryzen 5 1400 or 1500x. I have a 1600 overclocked and with a decent graphics card, it's great for games. If you aren't gaming, I don't think you'll see a difference, and you'll spend less too.

My dad and I when I was younger started out building computers, primarily because I wanted to game lol. Back in the days when 200mhz was fast. If your kid is anything like me, he will want to game at some point. But I would say get him like a Ryzen 5 1400, a B350 board, and something like a GTX 1050 graphics card for 100 bucks. That way, he has enough power all around to use the system, but also if he decides he wants to game, enough to dip his toes into the water. As well as with a B350 board, those are a decent mid range board, and if AMD is to be believed, they are supposed to support that socket until 2020. So then you should have the flexibility to drop in a better graphics card later or drop in a better cpu in a couple of years. But it would be simple enough to get your feet wet and figure out what you want.

For day to day, you won't see a difference between that and an intel. If anything, I think it would smoother for web browsing or if you get to multitasking.

 

[Hlsgsz]

Would like build a PC with my son to teach him to build something. Want him to create and problem solve. I have never built a PC but have done some research and this seems like a good thing for both of us to work through. We love solving problems. I know I want an intel quad core processor and we do not need a gaming video card. do not plan to use for gaming. Just want a PC to get online, and do homework. Gaming will come later if he wants to.

Would like to spend between $600 - $700.

Also need wifi to get online.

Wait a couple of weeks, so you can get a 6 core i5-8400 for ~$190 or a quad core i3-8100 for ~$120. Theres simply no use in getting anything Intel today. Even if you don't go 8th gen, prices on 7th gen are bound to go down significantly ebcause of the increase in core count on the new gen, in which case, grab a cheap i7 7700(k).

THanks for this info I think im going to wait for the 8th gen to come out.

Good choice. Drop a thread and we'll make you a suitable build once teh dust settles.