News First credible report of RTX 5090 FE with melted connector appears — third-party cable likely cause

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Who's got the marshmallows?

Something went wrong obviously as the cable melted. All parties involved will or course pull in the draw bridge and the accusations will start flying.

You did it. No, you did it.

After market cable? Which was fine on the previous 4090?

Who knows. Maybe they liked AMD and wanted to make a point by OC'ing to within and inch of the things life to see if it would melt.

You and i know nada.
 
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This Blackwell architecture is a joke. Last year, NVIDIA faced a series of issues on this architecture that delayed the launch after two years of R&D, they had to make significant last-minute changes to the chip, officially acknowledging it was their mistake.
Also there were reports of overheating issues with their AI racks, which they tried to quickly swept under the rug but they popped up again recently (because they're likely real issues).
The PITA of liquid cooling in AI racks remains as they crammed as many transistors as possible onto the die and then push them as fast as they can, pushing power consumption and heat to the limit, only to achieve a marginal performance gain versus previous generation.

And so this architecture in the consumer sector: as reported, the chips weren't ready and were only shipped to AIBs a few weeks prior, they didn't even have time to test them before launching (so to speak) them on the market. The riser on the FE's PCB is a disaster. Of course, it's causing problems with the faster PCI-E 5 and the recommended workaround is to reduce the slot speed to PCI-E 4 to achieve stability. Power connectors are melting, cards are bricking, and so on. All in all, the worst launch ever!
 
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Alvar Miles Udell said:
- Has a 4090
- Buys a 5090
- Uses cheapo power supply

:astonished::rofl::rofl::rofl::astonished:
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It usually takes a while for people to learn that manufacturer's warranty is a good indicator on how long they expect their product to last. That, in turn, is a good indication of the quality of the product in question.

In this case, the PSU had a 1 year warranty.

I have to agree, cheapo PSU.

I hope he learned.
 
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Notton said:
tom's forums proving once again that no one reads through the article before posting their shtick.

Now, will Asus honor their 10yr PSU warranty... probably not, considering it's a 3rd party cable.
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Considering it stated in the article:

However, their Asus ROG Loki PSU was also affected, with the 12V-2x6 connector on it also melting. u/ivan6953 even said that they suspect that the problem originated on the PSU side, especially as it seems to have been more heavily damaged.
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The comments about the PSU have solid foundation.
 
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SomeoneElse23 said:
I didn't pull that out of my britches.

I followed the links on the reddit to PC part picker, to the newegg entry:

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-loki-rog-loki-1000p-sfx-l-gaming-1000-w/p/N82E16817320035

Looks like 1 year warranty to me?
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That's just Newegg being Newegg, ASUS' website says it does have a 10 year warranty

10-Year Warranty​


A decade of power​

We're so confident about the reliability of the ROG Loki SFX-L 1000W Platinum that we back it with a 10-year warranty.

*Core product operation is guaranteed for 10 years. The RGB LEDs are subject to a 3-year warranty.
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SomeoneElse23 said:
I didn't pull that out of my britches.

I followed the links on the reddit to PC part picker, to the newegg entry:

https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-loki-rog-loki-1000p-sfx-l-gaming-1000-w/p/N82E16817320035

Looks like 1 year warranty to me?
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That seems to be Newegg pulling/scraping from the wrong source. Asus' website says 10 years, and the picture of the box on Newegg has a "10 year limited warranty" badge between the "ATX 3.0 compatible" and "ASUS Aura Sync" badges on the bottom right.

Alvar Miles Udell said:
The comments about the PSU have solid foundation.
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There's solid foundation that the PSU could have been the issue or part of it, but you said:
Alvar Miles Udell said:
- Uses cheapo power supply

:astonished::rofl::rofl::rofl::astonished:
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and seemed to blame the user for using cheap components and imply they should have expected this outcome. It doesn't seem like the PSU was "cheapo" or had an unusually short warranty. Sometimes generally good models do have defects.
 
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jlake3 said:
That seems to be Newegg pulling/scraping from the wrong source. Asus' website says 10 years, and the picture of the box on Newegg has a "10 year limited warranty" badge between the "ATX 3.0 compatible" and "ASUS Aura Sync" badges on the bottom right.


There's solid foundation that the PSU could have been the issue or part of it, but you said:

and seemed to blame the user for using cheap components and imply they should have expected this outcome. It doesn't seem like the PSU was "cheapo" or had an unusually short warranty. Sometimes generally good models do have defects.
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ASUS doesn't make their own power supplies, they just rebadge others, and they have been known to use some really questionable OEMs (from TomsHardware's PSU manufacturer list) in the past, so I wouldn't bet money that this was made by a reputable manufacturer, especially not when proper branded units (SeaSonic, Super Flower, and Enermax) are $300+.
 
Although it’s a third party cable, melting at both ends looks like it can’t take the sustained load vs being plugged incorrectly, now given I forgot it’s GN or JTC who used the power measuring board found that their FE pulling more than 600W at times from that cable it’s likely just that the cable can’t handle long term spikes like that.
Sounds like the cable version of raptor lake frying itself

Edit: and it doesn’t help that one of the selling point being the FE is a SFF card, and quite some users will use in a SFF build, trapping the heat with much lower airflow and the more likely of twisting the cable ever so slightly increasing the resistance of the pins will be really bad
 
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