[SOLVED] First new PC in 11 years- How is this?

[mojorisin23]

Hi
I"m building my first new PC in 11 years. My first/last build suited me well. But I need to start to upgrade.

I work in MS office/ cloud software 10 hours a day from home (even before covid).

Currently with 2 x 1440p 27" monitors.

Potential new upgrade will be a smaller case (probably mATX) and quieter!

New Build:
i7=10700K ( will overclock as needed)
InWin 301 (probably upgrade to a 301c when available).
32 gb RAM (not selected as of yet)
EVGA 1660 Ti SC ULTRA Gaming (cannibalized from my current computer)
ASRock Z490M PRO4 mATX ( https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087TDJ2QN/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 )
Intel - 1TB SSD 3D3 QLC NAND M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive (not really picky here so other suggestions appreciated)
Will use the current 1tb SSD Samsung EVO from my current build and probably my 2tb WD HDD.
CPU Cooler: Be quiet Dark Rock Slim ( https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/1659 )
Super Flower Leadex III Gold 550W 80+ Gold ( https://www.amazon.com/quiet-BK024-...Be+quiet+Dark+Rock+Slim&qid=1599418574&sr=8-1 )

I"m a bit rusty at this- so any and all comments appreciated. No real budget but obviously would like to spend less rather than more.

Thank you!

 

[Isokolon]

• the inwin 301301C isn't the best case for air cooling
• a dark rock slim might be a tad weak to OC an i7
• you might wanna go for a 650W PSU in order to be able to upgrade the CPU. If the rumours about the new NV line are true and you intend on OC 550W can become a bit too little in theory

 

[dchen2105]

One thing to keep in mind is that AMD has caught up to Intel with their new Ryzen CPUs, especially with their Ryzen 3000 CPUs. Intel only really has advantage in gaming. Workstation and desktop uses will be owned by AMD. A Ryzen 7 3700X would do you some good. Could pair it with a B550 motherboard. Unlike Intel, AMD doesn't limit the features on their midrange(B line) motherboards to boost value of higher end motherboards(Z for Intel, X for AMD). Wait for the next generation of AMD CPUs, regardless of whether you go for Intel or AMD. They're set to drop this month, rumor has it(well actually it was set for last month, according to rumors). This could lower prices of any CPU in the market. As for SSD, a Kingston A2000 would be a great pick if you're in Canada(145 CAD) and the WD Blue SN550 isn't bad for 'mercans(105 USD). These both use TLC nand cells, meaning that they store 3 bytes per cell, compared to the 4 bytes per QLC cell. This increases read/write speeds(which doesn't actually matter that much at these speeds) and more importantly, longevity. No more comments on anything else, not an expert on case or cooling.\

Also, an i7/Ryzen 7 might be unnecessary. What is the most intensive thing you need out of this? Even the 4 core, 8 threaded Ryzen 3 3300X could get the job done for you.

 

[mojorisin23]

Thank you for the reply

I hear you on points 2 and 3 and was definitely thiking about number 3 (super flower has a 650w for $10 more) so i can go that wy.
on 2, I don't think i will OC until later in its life, so i have time.

on number 1, yes but i will probably very rarely (if at all) be playing any graphics intensive games. But i hear your point.
Other cases i have on my short list:

• Fractal Design Define Mini C
• Fractal Focus G Mini
• Darkflash DLM 21

 

[mojorisin23]

Also, do you think i have the space to get the regular Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro fan?

 

[DSzymborski]

Yeah, if you're determined to get an Inwin 301, you're pretty much forced to have a very good radiator as the intake and high static pressure fans running aggressively because the intake is that weird little honeycomb section on the side. And it's sadly restricted since the intake goes right in where the cables go.

This is not a case you can just slap in a high-end CPU and a good air cooler; you have to seriously plan just how you're going to get fresh air into the case. As it is, this would be a torturebox.

 

[dchen2105]

Also, consider using an off-brand CPU cooler. Noctua and be Quiet are so much more expensive.

Adding onto my first comment:

i7-4770 vs Ryzen 3 3300X

The Ryzen 3 3300X is much stronger than even an i7 from about 6 years ago.

 

[mojorisin23]

Yeah, if you're determined to get an Inwin 301, you're pretty much forced to have a very good radiator as the intake and high static pressure fans running aggressively because the intake is that weird little honeycomb section on the side. And it's sadly restricted since the intake goes right in where the cables go.

This is not a case you can just slap in a high-end CPU and a good air cooler; you have to seriously plan just how you're going to get fresh air into the case. As it is, this would be a torturebox.

So you recommend a different case? Fractal Design Meshify Mini? I listed a few others... thats the hardest part about this- the case.

 

[mojorisin23]

One thing to keep in mind is that AMD has caught up to Intel with their new Ryzen CPUs, especially with their Ryzen 3000 CPUs. Intel only really has advantage in gaming. Workstation and desktop uses will be owned by AMD. A Ryzen 7 3700X would do you some good. Could pair it with a B550 motherboard. Unlike Intel, AMD doesn't limit the features on their midrange(B line) motherboards to boost value of higher end motherboards(Z for Intel, X for AMD). Wait for the next generation of AMD CPUs, regardless of whether you go for Intel or AMD. They're set to drop this month, rumor has it(well actually it was set for last month, according to rumors). This could lower prices of any CPU in the market. As for SSD, a Kingston A2000 would be a great pick if you're in Canada(145 CAD) and the WD Blue SN550 isn't bad for 'mercans(105 USD). These both use TLC nand cells, meaning that they store 3 bytes per cell, compared to the 4 bytes per QLC cell. This increases read/write speeds(which doesn't actually matter that much at these speeds) and more importantly, longevity. No more comments on anything else, not an expert on case or cooling.\

Also, an i7/Ryzen 7 might be unnecessary. What is the most intensive thing you need out of this? Even the 4 core, 8 threaded Ryzen 3 3300X could get the job done for you.

Sorry... completely missed this post. I really know nothing about the Ryzen line since they didn't really exist last time. That being said, its simply a lack of knowledge. Right now i have an i5 2550k OC'd to the max. But i do run multiple programs at once, have CNBC TV streaming 24/7, have 10-20 excel spreadsheets, MS Dynamics, Sage 50, and probably 25-50 chrome tabs open at any given time. I hit the top of CPU capabilities all the time and usually sit right near the top of my 16gb ram limit (in the 14gb range).

That being said, what would an equivolent i7 10700k be in the Ryzen lineup? and Mobo for that matter. I don't mind spending $20 or whatever more for what will be a long term investment (spending $100 more for a few items spread over 10 years expected life is $10 per year; nothing).

Thank you!!