First Shots of AMD Llano, Socket FM1 in the Wild

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How could this be the for the " Performance Oriented Croud" when it is 2.4 GHz? That better be good archetecture or Amd is again, going to be creamed by the Intel lineup.
 
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[citation][nom]kenyee[/nom]What in the world is an FM1 socket?What happened to the AM3/3+ standard sockets?[/citation]
It is strange, but I thought llano was for laptops, not desktops. Maybe I was wrong.
 
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[citation][nom]zepfan_75[/nom]How could this be the for the " Performance Oriented Croud" when it is 2.4 GHz? That better be good archetecture or Amd is again, going to be creamed by the Intel lineup.[/citation]

Apparently it's an engineering sample, and generally those are void of the real clock speeds and TDP of the real production chips that the consumer market sees.
 
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[citation][nom]zepfan_75[/nom]How could this be the for the " Performance Oriented Croud" when it is 2.4 GHz? That better be good archetecture or Amd is again, going to be creamed by the Intel lineup.[/citation]

I also thought llano was going in laptops, if it is then a quad core cpu with a intergrated gpu / FPU (whatever it is lold) at 2.4Ghz sounds like it is for the performance oriented croud.
 
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2.4ghz at 0.394v is quite an achievement though, especially for laptops. I'm sure my PhenomII x4 B55 needs somewhere around 1.3v-1.6v for that speed and will probably be slower clock for clock.

I don't think the new APUs will really take the performance gap unless they can be highly overclocked like Sandy Bridge.
 
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[citation][nom]hurrdurr[/nom]Holy *** you people are downright retarded. Llano APUs are for laptops.[/citation]

Did you visit the wiki?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Fusion

The following are desktop models:
E2-3250, A4-3350, A4-3360, A6-3450, A6-3450P, A6-3460, A6-3460P, A6-3550, A8-3550P, A8-3560, A8-3560P

This is the moble model:
A8-3510MX

Not sure if the sample is the desktop or notebook version, but the notebook version seems to be released first while the photo looks like a desktop version.
 
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[citation][nom]kokin[/nom]2.4ghz at 0.394v is quite an achievement though, especially for laptops. I'm sure my PhenomII x4 B55 needs somewhere around 1.3v-1.6v for that speed and will probably be slower clock for clock.I don't think the new APUs will really take the performance gap unless they can be highly overclocked like Sandy Bridge.[/citation]

Bear in mind these chips are on 32nm but w/ husky cores (rather than the new bulldozer cores), so that power consumption isn't too extraordinary and somewhat expected. Probably won't see CPU speed match sandy bridge, but in terms of power consumption it should be close and the fusion APU will probably double the sandy bridge HD3000 performance. Could make a great desktop chip for those who aren't powering 1080i monitors for gaming and it'll probably make a fantastic laptop chip :)
 
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Wasn't it reported not too long ago that AMD would be dropping the 3D Now instruction set? Just surprised to still see that there.

Ah well... Firmly rooted in Socket AM3 for now. Won't sniff anything new til 2015... less something blows up.
 
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That .36v figure doesn't sound right. I'm guessing that CPU-Z just isn't correctly detecting the actual voltage, although if I'm wrong and .36v @ 2.4GHz is correct, then that would be quite impressive.
 
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[citation][nom]shloader[/nom]Wasn't it reported not too long ago that AMD would be dropping the 3D Now instruction set? Just surprised to still see that there. Ah well... Firmly rooted in Socket AM3 for now. Won't sniff anything new til 2015... less something blows up.[/citation]
It's not a new CPU core, just a dieshrink. The integrated GPU and the pricing are where this thing will shine. Keep in mind, these chips are for entry level machines. They've got plenty of CPU power for your typical user, and a much better IGP than previous entry level units. Better even than the GPU in Sandy Bridge, with better driver support to boot.[citation][nom]iam2thecrowe[/nom]it inly has 1024k cache? doesnt sound like a performance cpu.[/citation]It's not. Not big on reading, huh?
 
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Something about these screenshots doesnt seem right... 3DNow support, a transistor that works at 0.39 volts, 'FM1' in IE is on top of the 'Status' bar...

Smells like seafood
 
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[citation][nom]shloader[/nom]Wasn't it reported not too long ago that AMD would be dropping the 3D Now instruction set? Just surprised to still see that there. Ah well... Firmly rooted in Socket AM3 for now. Won't sniff anything new til 2015... less something blows up.[/citation]
How is that not too extraordinary? Even if it is still the K10.5 core they got it to 0.394v from 1.3-1.6v in one fab jump.
 
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The llano cores are just revised/updated Phenom II cores that are shrunken down to 32nm size. And the APU's in llano are going to be way faster than Sandybridge. The low power consumption AMD Ontario 40nm cpus feature an 8 watt APU and it is faster than Sandybridges APU. That is a pretty crappy APU in Sandybridege when it gets beet out by a budget low power Ontario APU.
 
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