First Shots of AMD Llano, Socket FM1 in the Wild

[Haserath]

Many uninformed readers here it seems.

Llano is a Phenom II dieshrink without the L3 cache(basically Athlon II).
This will be for the high end laptops/low end desktops.
This will be their "APU", with(most likely) a weaker processor than Sandy Bridge, but a stronger GPU for acceleration.

The jump in voltage is mostly from a lower clockspeed, it seems people are mistaking that Phenom II's in the desktop are at 3.4ghz+@1.3V or so.
a 1ghz drop in clock will allow them to drop the voltage quite a bit, then the die being made at 32nm would lower it some more.

 

[megamanx00]

It may be nice to see a laptop based on Llano, but as far as a desktop I just don't care. Give me Bulldozer.

 

[falchard]

Yup, only care about a Bulldozer processor for desktop. Still it would be nice if they added a socket in Laptops so I can easily swap out a processor.

 

[fir_ser]

The Llano is for both the desktop and laptop platforms. This particular Llano sample is for the desktop.
[citation][nom]iam2thecrowe[/nom]it inly has 1024k cache? doesnt sound like a performance cpu.[/citation]
The 1MB of L2 cache is for each core, so this Llano APU will have 4MB of cache.

 

[compton]

2.4ghz at .396v?

I'd say that's pretty good.
So if this is an engineering sample, and not representative of the actual product specs, it still makes me wonder.

Can you underclock your quad core to 2.4 @ .396v?
Didn't think so.

 

[Marco925]

[citation][nom]zepfan_75[/nom]How could this be the for the " Performance Oriented Croud" when it is 2.4 GHz? That better be good archetecture or Amd is again, going to be creamed by the Intel lineup.[/citation]
These are for Notebooks, the Desktop variants will be Socket AM3+

 

[sykozis]

[citation][nom]Kryan[/nom]they're STILL using pins? really? Slowly i'm beginning to wonder if product designers have brains...[/citation]
Even Intel's LGA775, 771, 1156, 1366, 1155, and 2011 still use pins. Obviously it's you who's lacking a brain. Intel removed the pins from the CPU package and placed them in the socket itself when they released the LGA775 processors. Have you missed all the "bent pin" complaints with Intel sockets??? AMD's design permits the bent pins to easily be straightened. Intel's design nearly requires a motherboard RMA in cases of pins getting bent...

 

[englandr753]

Between the pins on the ziff socket and the crappy push pins that connect the heatsink, I'm not sure which is worse. Well, the heatsink is worse but I usually get rid of the heatsink anyway and go for a bolt on after market cooler but for those that choose to stay stock, it sucks...

 

[englandr753]

Forgot to add, hopefully AMD puts heat sinks with their new cpus that don't sound like a pontoon plane taking off...

 

[fir_ser]

[citation][nom]Marco925[/nom]These are for Notebooks, the Desktop variants will be Socket AM3+[/citation]
I believe you’re wrong my friend, first of all this is a desktop APU, second of all Llano will have FM1 socket as this article mentioned and third of all the AM3+ is for Bulldozer.

 

[cletus_slackjawd]

We needed a link to a back article perhaps to make sense to this present article. Just not enough info on an unreleased product that hasn't seen a lot of press. I got x3 more info from reading the comments than from the actual article.

 

[Pyree]

The chinese site says that the 4-8 core Zambezi desktop AM3+ will come out 11-6 but is speculated to release even earlier during Computex 2011 or on first day of E3 Expo.

 

[Pyree]

Article: http://cpu.zol.com.cn/224/2243505.html
Bulldozer release date: http://cpu.zol.com.cn/224/2243014.html

 

[eddieroolz]

I also think the 0.3v figure is probably CPU-Z not reading the actual values correctly. However, if that's true then AMD just did an amazing job.

 

[enforcer22]

[citation][nom]Kryan[/nom]they're STILL using pins? really? Slowly i'm beginning to wonder if product designers have brains...[/citation]

As apposed to what? Telepathy? As far as i know all CPU's use pins even if they aren't part of the CPU package and on the motherboard which was a horrible decision by INTEL. At least when it comes to the consumer. For them its a great decision since if a pin gets bent its not their problem its the motherboard manufacturers.

 

[iam2thecrowe]

[citation][nom]alextheblue[/nom] Not big on reading, huh?[/citation]
"These quad-core parts are AMD's answer to the more performance-oriented desktop crowd" thats what i read. What did you read???

 

[vk_87]

Socket FM1, 785 pins, lets hope better than LGA 1155/ FCBGA1023, PPGA988

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]Kryan[/nom]they're STILL using pins? really? Slowly i'm beginning to wonder if product designers have brains...[/citation]

Ouch, guess you have destroyed a few CPU's in your time by damaging the pins.

I have seen more LGA (Intel) sockets destroyed beyond use than PIN design (AMD)!

Personally prefer the pins being on the CPU and not the other way around!

 

[Wisecracker]

Bulldozer Zambezi = AM3/AM3+

Zacate/Llano Fusion APUs = Hudson

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/AMD-Llano-Motherboard-Chipsets-Get-Detailed-3.png

 

[schmich]

[citation][nom]reprotected[/nom]Aww. Too late. I bought a Core i5 2500k. Now I'm sad.[/citation]
Hmm? Too late? Chip roadmaps are usually revealed or leaked months or sometimes even a year ahead. That Llano and Bulldozer are coming in the upcoming months has been known since mid-2010 at least.

 

[cookoy]

4 processors in selection, each with 1 core and 1 thread? is cpu-z reporting this correctly?

 

[magruder13]

[citation][nom]mayankleoboy1[/nom].396V ? thats super low power.i didnt know that MOSFET's could switch on such low voltages[/citation]

You make a good point, the lowest Vgs on commercial MOSFETS is like 2 or 3V.

 

[f-gomes]

[citation][nom]falchard[/nom]Yup, only care about a Bulldozer processor for desktop. Still it would be nice if they added a socket in Laptops so I can easily swap out a processor.[/citation]

Dude, they've been doing that for years, now. Disassemble your laptop, you'll find a socket inside, very ease to replace the CPU. Unless it is an Atom, I think those are soldered, not sure.

 

[falchard]

What? Really? Guess I should buy a laptop sometime soon then, I haven't bought one in years.

 

[JonnyDough]

[citation][nom]Kryan[/nom]they're STILL using pins? really? Slowly i'm beginning to wonder if product designers have brains...[/citation]

Chips keep getting cheaper to produce. Most chips go into motherboards that cost more...as most chips sold are still on the lower end. Think businesses and non-power home users. Granny on the net.