First-Time Builder: Looking For a $2000 Gaming Build (PC + Peripherals)

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Hello. This is my first time here on Tom's Hardware. I've finally saved enough money to invest into a long-term gaming PC, and I figured this would be the best place to go to start my venture into custom PCs. Reading through the articles on this site, I'm getting somewhat of an idea as to what I need, but I've little idea where to start. I'd like to get some kind of springboard to start off with; I know that's asking for a bit much, but it would be greatly appreciated.

Approximate Purchase Date: About 3-4 weeks; I'm doing research into actual PC building during my spare time, and will actually begin purchases after the current semester ends.

Budget Range: $1800-2200 before rebates is my ideal range. I can go slightly above if it's justified, though.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: I'm aiming for this PC to be my primary source of home entertainment, with gaming being the top priority (I play a wide range of genres; I'd like to be able to run current and near-future games at a strong framerate on max or close-to-max graphical settings); movies (both streaming and Blu-Ray) are also important, but far less so.

Parts Not Required: I have a gaming mouse, but no other peripherals. My university (UF) is selling students Windows 8 Pro 64-bit for $15, but I'm not entirely sold on 8, to be honest; I'd like people's opinion on Windows 8 and gaming before I decide to jump on this. The above-mentioned budget is meant to include the keyboard and monitor.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: From what I've seen doing preliminary research, Newegg is pretty good. I have yet to shop there, but I'd likely use it for pricing.

Country: I'm in the United States.

Parts Preferences: I'm partial to Intel, nVidia, and Asus brands; aside from that, I favor whatever parts are compatible with each other. I have a preference for i7 over i5 Intel CPUs, but I don't know if that is justifiable. I would also like to include a Blu-Ray optical drive on top of whatever else the build turns out to be.

Overclocking: Maybe. I'm still new to PC building, so I don't want to do anything that'll end up with me losing hundreds of dollars. If I need to invest in a sophisticated cooling system, I'd like to learn that now, before I actually go to order parts. That way, I can educate myself on how to deal with those situations.

SLI or Crossfire: Again, maybe. Depends on if I need it or not; I'm not sure if one top-of-the-line GPU is better/worse than two SLI/Crossfire-linked ones.

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080; I'm pretty set on using 1080p at the moment (edited to reflect current choice)

Additional Comments: As I mentioned before, I'm completely new to PC building, and am both excited and nervous at the prospect. I was strongly considering prebuilt for a while, since peace of mind is important to me, but I've seen many arguments against it (including price). Furthermore, I want to be able to easily upgrade this build in the future, and I figure building the computer would better prepare me for upgrading it in the future. However, if a good pre-built computer does come to mind (and can be easily upgraded in the future), I would like to entertain that idea as well.

With that being said, I apologize for not having a parts list ready to go for rating (it seems like that is the norm for most of these threads); while my understanding of what parts are worth investing in is improving, there are issues of part compatibility and bottlenecking that I worry about, among other things. I would like to get advice from more experienced builders who know good builds that avoid a lot of those kinds of problems. In the meantime, I'll be reading more into actual PC parts and building and trying to make sure I understand everything as clearly as possible before actually buying parts.

Thank you all in advance!
 
[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NOof) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NOof/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/NOof/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i73770k) | $329.99 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4) | $114.99 @ Newegg
**Memory** | [G.Skill Value 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c11s8gnt) | $54.99 @ Newegg
**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ealx) |-
**Storage** | [Samsung 830 Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz7pc256bww) | $159.99 @ Newegg
**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GTX 670 4GB Video Card](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp42673kr) | $409.99 @ Newegg
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [TP-Link TL-WN751ND 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwn751nd) | $17.99 @ Newegg
**Case** | [Cooler Master Storm Trooper ATX Full Tower Case](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-sgc5000kkn1) | $149.98 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cmpsu750hx) | $109.99 @ Newegg
**Optical Drive** | [Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas) | $24.98 @ Newegg
**Monitor** | [Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-ve248h) | $159.99 @ Newegg
**Keyboard** | [Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Wired Gaming Keyboard](http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-keyboard-jqd00001) | $54.99 @ Newegg
| | **Total**
| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | $1587.87
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-01 21:38 EDT-0400 |
 
That actually looks a little bit like what I was starting to have in mind. That part lists seems like a good place to start. Thanks!

I'd definitely like to see other builds, if other people have different ideas. If not, then are there any suggestions regarding where I can invest the surplus budget into?
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($98.81 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: AOC i2367Fh 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($178.16 @ TigerDirect)
Monitor: AOC i2367Fh 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($178.16 @ TigerDirect)
Monitor: AOC i2367Fh 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($178.16 @ TigerDirect)
Total: $2102.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-01 22:03 EDT-0400)

This is a nice triple monitor setup, if you're into something like that.
 
It sounds intriguing, but I think a triple-monitor setup would be a bit much for me, I think. Dual-monitor sounds interesting enough, though. I may try it out if I feel comfortable with setting it up.

Also, I noticed that you've got 2 GeForce GTX 670 2GB cards in a 2-way SLI system versus the previous build's single 4GB card. Silly question, but is there an advantage to that?

EDIT: One thing that came to mind just now; I think I'd prefer a roomier full tower case over the mid ones. More room for arranging cables/parts, especially since I lack the delicacy to work in a relatively confined area.
 
4 GB vs 2 GB gives you more "juice" to add cool things like mods to your gaming experience. No one really does 2 monitors. That's impractical. If you're not going triple, just go single. Get the 670 SLI + a 120 hertz monitor.
 
CPU Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core $289.98

CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken X40 98.3 CFM Liquid $63.98

Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 $114.99

Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 $174.99

Storage Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM $124.99

Crucial V4 128GB 2.5" SSD $94.68

Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 680 2GB $448.48

Case Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower $179.99

Power Supply Raidmax 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V $131.98

Optical Drive Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer $16.97

Monitor Samsung S24A450BW-1 24.0" $259.99

Keyboard Rosewill RK-8100 $34.98

total: $1936.00

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/rOjOdogg/saved/1pKk

The case is a personal choice that you should make, I choose this one for its awsume cooling. The monitor is what you asked for and the GTX 680 is top of the line except for the $1000 titan. I choose a non OC CPU for you. This is just something for you to mix and match to help you decide. Good luck and if you have questions just ask.
 
Yeah, I'm probably going to leave the CPU alone to start with, without OCing it. I know you can get much better performance through a good OC, but I'd like to get some experience with a non-OC PC build first.

Does the performance of a single GTX 680 2GB outweigh that of two SLI-linked GTX 670 2GBs (or at least perform better relative to cost)? I'm gravitating toward using a single card (because I've little experience with multiple GPUs), but I'd be willing to choose whichever one would provide greater overall performance.

As for PSUs, what minimum power would I need for hardware at this price range? I've seen a few 750W here, as well as a single 1000W; is 1000W a good level of power for a PSU, or is it overkill relative to 750W?
 
Do NOT use 2133 mhz ram. It will void your CPU's warranty. 1600 is not any slower and will not screw you over in the long run. Really the difference is like 3 fps at most, and thats being optimistic.
 


Hmm, I didn't know that; like I said, I'm still not well versed in compatibility issues and OCing.

I do like the rest of rojodogg's build, though. I'll probably spend some time tweaking it once I get a better understanding of the parts. I would ideally like a somewhat future-proof build that can be upgraded in a few years' time. If anyone else notices any glaring issues with that parts list (or just has better alternatives), I'd still love to hear it.
 
You're going with the 680? Anyone here on the forum will tell you that 670 > 680. You get a garbage performance difference between the 2. Some games not optimized for SLI? Simple. Just disable one card and keep going.
 


Ah. Well, if it's that simple (and the 680 offers little in the way of a performance upgrade, like you say) then that's probably worth studying. I imagine there's a good guide on SLI somewhere around here; I should probably read through that sometime soon.

EDIT: I did some more reading into the 680 v. 670; I was surprised by just how similar they were in terms of performance. I think going with 2 SLI-linked 670s sounds like a better idea; I'll just have to educate myself on how to how to properly install and link two cards.

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm all over the place / my questions are scattered, by the way. I am surrounded by a lot of new information and learning as I go. Though, listening to these parts lists is giving me a good idea regarding where to aim for my price range, so thank you to everyone who put one up so far.
 
I originaly went with 1000w PSU to future proof a system with a 80 plus Gold rated PSU that was on sale.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

this is a article that will help you in your research.


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Personally I would rather use a single card over the crossfire or SLI performance matching pair of GPU's

The dual card option really only comes into it for me when you are talking about top end performance.
For instance if I wanted HD 7970 or GTX 680 type performance I would rather get a pair of GXT 560Ti cards in SLI because of the cost saving.
However if I wanted HD 6970 performance I would not get 2 GTX 550 cards I would get the single card.

There are less and less actual Issues associated with dual cards these days but you do sometimes have to wait for support for new games which means you sometimes have to drop to a single GPU to play them.

Mactronix :)

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/348273-33-dual-vgas-single-crossfirex-vgas

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/340031-33-single-single-dual-card

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-benchmarking-frame-rate,3466.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-benchmarking-frame-rate,3466-2.html

Personaly I like the single HD 7970, having said that I am trying to help you as to what you want. If you would like to go SLI I would recommend 660 Ti in SLI due to the cost factor. Dual 670 would be nice but can you afford the $700 plus in your budget? It is all a balancing game to fit what you want and need into your budget.

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/rOjOdogg/saved/1pUy

puts you over your budget by $152.50 so you would have to find less expensive other parts.

or

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/rOjOdogg/saved/1fbm

Dual 660 Ti but still $19.50 over your budget.

Just let me know what you want and I will try to help you with options.
 


That's the issue, it seems; as nice as a 670 SLI setup would be, it is a tad pricey at the moment, all things considered. One idea I'm entertaining involves getting a 2 GB (or 4 GB, if there is any benefit to higher VRAM for games that I plan to mod extensively) 670 or 680, using a single-card setup for a while, then considering SLI if a single card ends up not cutting it. This way I can build my first PC with one less immediate complication to worry about, and I can check to see if I really need that extra card before I go out and get it. If I do choose to start off with a single card, then I'll make sure to choose an SLI-ready motherboard with all of this in mind.

Out of curiosity, when is a sound card required for a build? I imagine an SLI-ready motherboard will be able to handle it for a non-audiophile such as myself, but it's still worth asking.

(Thanks again for all of the help thus far, everyone!)

EDIT: I've decided that I'm going to go for a1080p monitor for 1920x1080 resolution, if that is relevant to further GPU advice.
 


Not necessarily. You can buy two GTX 670 in SLI without breaking the bank:

Try this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vector Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($108.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($155.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1782.86
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-02 18:24 EDT-0400)

Gives you $150 for a monitor and then get a cheap keyboard and mouse for now, add the expensive peripherals in later.
 


Off topic, do they still give you Far Cry 3 for the Vector series? Or is that done?
 


Awesome, thanks.
 


Okay, I'll skip out on the sound card, then.

I'll have to decide between a single 670 now/SLI later or 670 SLI now, then. I'll sit on that decision for now. Another issue is choosing between 2 and 4GB of VRAM; I know VRAM is important for extensive modding (looking at Skyrim, for instance), but is there any other advantage to higher VRAM (since 4 GB seems a bit much, but tempting nonetheless)?

Oh, an off-topic question regarding cooling systems: since I don't plan to do any OCing for my first build (I want to spend time reading about it after I've developed enough knowledge about my build), should I/do I need to still invest in any sophisticated cooling system (beyond a high-quality full tower and third-party CPU cooler)?
 
Personally, I do not know what 4 GB does beyond buffers and modding capabilites.

If you want, I can provide you with the settings I have to get my CPU to 4.4 GHz at a very good 65 Celsius.