First Time Overclocking = E4300 & Gigabyte 965P DS3 =Advice

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I am having trouble overclocking my new computer, i followed the guide, and everything seemed to chanhe fine, saved settings and rebooted but monitoring software says processor memory etc are still running @ stock speeds.

Here is my setup
GIGABYTE GA-965P-DS3 rev 3.3
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Allendale 1.8GHz
CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 675
EVGA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB
Heat sync = Tuniq Tower 120

My ram is 4-4-4-12 @ 1.9V but when i turn it up to 2.2V this should go to 5-5-5-15 correct?

RAM =5-5-5-15 2.2V
Set PCI frequency @33Mhz
Set ‘Memory Multiplier’ to 2
(vDIMM) to +0.4
MCH Voltage (vMCH) to 1.55V
Set FSB Voltage (vFSB) to 1.40V
SB Voltage (vICH)??? Not sure what this is exactly?
Set CPU Voltage (vCore)= 1.400V
Set CPU Host Clock/Frequency (FSB) to 333Mhz
Set CPU Clock Ratio or Multiplier to 9

When i save and restart everything seems to be set the same when i check with Everest.

Any suggestions or clues as to what going on? Did i screw something up?
I also saw this:
base voltage for the Northbridge on the DS3 boards is v1.25 Wusys OC guide tells you to set it to v1.55 or +3 I would suggest that you load optimized settings and follow wusys guide on these forums the E4300 works just like the E6600 in the guide
 
It must be some of the "safety" features rolling it back to stock freq.
Did you follow the guide at this point:

Part1. Tidying Up Your BIOS (not all BIOS may have those options)
*You must update your BIOS to the latest version before proceeding*

1. Disable ‘AI Tuning’ for ASUS, ‘C.I.A.2’ for Gigabyte
2. Set PCI Express (PCIe) frequency @100Mhz (‘Auto’ for DS3/DS4/DQ6)
3. Set PCI frequency @33Mhz
4. Disable Hyperpath 3 (for P5W DH only)
5. Disable any ‘spread spectrum’
6. Disable Q-Fan (for ASUS only)
7. Disable ‘Limit CPUID Max to 3’
8. Disable any overvoltage protection
9. Disable ‘C1E’
10. Disable ‘EIST’
11. Disable Virtualization Technology
12. Disable No-Execute Memory Protect
13. Disable any other thing you don’t use
14. Do not enable any speed enhancements you see
 
I may be mistaken but:
Your memory speed is 333 Mhz ( 333x2 ) with your OC settings.
Its your defult memory speed for your ddr, so why you increase the voltage to 2.2 if you are not overclocking the RAM ?
 
HOLY CRAP those are high settings off the bat. WOW!!! Turn those down.

On a 4300, generally speaking, you should not have to increase MCH volts. And probably not vDIMM unless you're running RAM that has higher stock volts.

Depends how high to want to OC though......

For a moderate OC (285 FSB), chances are your settings will be:

-vCore 1.325 (stock) at most
-vDIMM stock (or maybe +0.1v....NOT +0.4v!!!!)
-vMCH stock
-vFSB stock
-vPCI-e stock
-5-5-5-15 if you want

In all likelihood, that's all you'll need at 285 FSB = 2.6 ghz CPU.

You should hit 2.8 ghz without much trouble. However, try to hit 3.0 or higher and you'll really have to juice them all up. I suggest going with 2.6 as a very easy OC that won't require you to touch the volts much (if at all).

Whomever said that a DS3 and a 4300 needs vCORE 1.4v+, MCH +0.2v, vDIMM +0.3 to +0.4, FSB +0.1, PCI-e +0.1 and whatever else is entirely incorrect. That CPU/mobo setup does not need that much juice.

Start low, go high. NOT the other way around.
 
I agree...you don't need to up the voltage much if any at all.

My 4300 is running at 3.0 GHz with a Asus P5B w/ stock voltage all the way around.
 
Wusy's guide presumes, you'll go all the way up in one session, 'til failing point of your CPU. This is the reason of setting all mobo voltages (except Vcore) higher, just not to mess with them during the process of OC. We are expected to lower them after stabilising final OC - if possible.
 
Ok i got it working last night... well i guess i would call it working HAHA.

I turned it up to 2.8GHZ @ stock voltages and windows would load fine and everything. But the stress test just kept erroring out. Finaly i got a blue screen error and i turned everything back.

This means i need to bump up v-core correct?


I am running my ram @ 5-5-5-15 2.1V (+2)

How much do you guys think i should bump up v-core??
Do i need to touch FSB voltage or any of those other ones?


Thanks!!! I would like to get it up over 3GHZ at least.

Also i am geting confused on the whole frequency thing...

Can someone give me a formula??
CPU Speed = (9x)(Freq) right?
so 9x356=3.2GHz?


Thanks!!!
 
Correct.

But at 3.2ghz you're *probably* gonna need alot more vCORE than stock. 99% sure that's your problem right there.

I suggest you back down the FSB and get stable. Then go from there. And yes, you need to increase vCORE.

Go to 335 FSB and bump up vCORE to 1.35v, see if you get Prime95 errors there. 1.35v still leaves lots of room to move higher if needed and isn't high at all. Just monitor your temps though while running dual Prime95's.
 
You have no reason to up your RAM voltage unless you are running some multiplier that will OC your memory. Figure out your issues before trying to go whole hog OC. Incidentally, can you post the batch info on your chip? I get 3ghz while manually undervolting my chip on my DS3. I have only upped one voltage and that was to add +0.2 to my memory(1.8v stock).

FPO/Batch # Q644A293
 
HOLY CRAP those are high settings off the bat. WOW!!! Turn those down.

On a 4300, generally speaking, you should not have to increase MCH volts. And probably not vDIMM unless you're running RAM that has higher stock volts.

Depends how high to want to OC though......

For a moderate OC (285 FSB), chances are your settings will be:

-vCore 1.325 (stock) at most
-vDIMM stock (or maybe +0.1v....NOT +0.4v!!!!)
-vMCH stock
-vFSB stock
-vPCI-e stock
-5-5-5-15 if you want

In all likelihood, that's all you'll need at 285 FSB = 2.6 ghz CPU.

You should hit 2.8 ghz without much trouble. However, try to hit 3.0 or higher and you'll really have to juice them all up. I suggest going with 2.6 as a very easy OC that won't require you to touch the volts much (if at all).

Whomever said that a DS3 and a 4300 needs vCORE 1.4v+, MCH +0.2v, vDIMM +0.3 to +0.4, FSB +0.1, PCI-e +0.1 and whatever else is entirely incorrect. That CPU/mobo setup does not need that much juice.

Start low, go high. NOT the other way around.
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I also have an new e4300 DS3 rig on the way (G Skill 800 ram)... new to overclocking... reading all I can.

I want my first OC to be simple... would be be very satisfied with a 2.6 or higher. So all I need to do is adjust the FSB? Leave the rest alone...

Thanks!
 
I agree...you don't need to up the voltage much if any at all.

My 4300 is running at 3.0 GHz with a Asus P5B w/ stock voltage all the way around.
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i'm in the same boat. followed the guide and turned off what needed to be turned off. set my fsb to 333x9 and set everything else to stock voltages. here's my rig
 
I also have an new e4300 DS3 rig on the way (G Skill 800 ram)... new to overclocking... reading all I can.

I want my first OC to be simple... would be be very satisfied with a 2.6 or higher. So all I need to do is adjust the FSB? Leave the rest alone...

Thanks!
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You'll need to disable the features mentioned above, or find them in the guide to overclocking post, but other than that you sould have no problem hitting 2997 with stock volts and ur fsb at 333, just do it slowly and test in between
 
Hey I have a e4300 running on a p965 s3

Its running at 2.9, 1.35v every thing else stock except mem which is set at 2.5 800mhz. Runs about 55 c about a couple of hours gaming :)
 
Hey I have a e4300 running on a p965 s3

Its running at 2.9, 1.35v every thing else stock except mem which is set at 2.5 800mhz. Runs about 55 c about a couple of hours gaming :)
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why would you run the ram at 2.5?
 
My ram is 4-4-4-12 @ 1.9V but when i turn it up to 2.2V this should go to 5-5-5-15 correct?
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LMAO, you think you have to increase your RAM voltage to run it slower? CAS5 is slower than CAS 4. 5-5-5-15 is slower than 4-4-4-12 If it runs at 4-4-4-12@1.90V, try 3-3-3-8@2.20V.

CAS Latency is a measure of LATENCY, as in WAIT cycles. The more wait cycles, the slower the response time.
 
why would you run the ram at 2.5?[/quote]

Got cheap AMPO ram ddr2 800 so at 2.5 it runs the ram at 800 in the bios.
 
That cheap AMPO is some great stuff! Take a look at THG's mid-priced DDR2-800 shootout. The sad part is that the Patriot memory can be had for under $150 now after rebate, so anyone who likes rebates might get it cheaper than the AMPO.
 
thats good to hear i have not pushed my overclock too hard at mo. got my girl friend to bring to over (i live out side of states) so can't get mail ins 🙁
 
I have an E6600, OCZ SLI EPP DDR2-7200 and a DS3 - I get 333 x 9 @ stock volts. My RAM is set to "Type 2" in the timings settings and 4,4,3,15 at 2.2V. Memtest 1.70 runs test 5 no problem at all and Orthos heats the cores up nicely for "in Windows" stress testing.
 
you don't need to change any other just change CPU volt to 1.35

CPU Type DualCore Intel Pentium E2200, 3375 MHz (9 x 375)



Motherboard Name Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel AGTL+
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 375 MHz (QDR)
Effective Clock 1500 MHz
Bandwidth 12000 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type Dual DDR2 SDRAM
Bus Width 128-bit
DRAM:FSB Ratio 1:1
Real Clock 375 MHz (DDR)
Effective Clock 750 MHz
Bandwidth 12000 MB/s
 
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