Foxconn Installing Safety Nets to Catch Jumpers?

[ltgrunt]

[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]Why are so many people banging on about terrible working conditions forcing huge numbers of people to kill themselves when it is patently NOT TRUE.400,000 people work there, the number of suicides compared to the workforce is 1/3 of the national average. So admittedly the work is hard, but a lot better than elsewhere in China, the wages are low, but better than elsewhere in China.So since "Mr Chang" gave up working 18 hours a day in a paddy field being paid a bowl of rice a day and work at Foxconn he is 3 times LESS likely to kill himself.[/citation]


The problem with this argument is that you're essentially excusing working conditions that are bad enough to prompt [X] number of suicides because other employers are so bad that they prompt [Y] number of suicides. It's a flawed premise. Just because there are worse places to work in China (worse in this context meaning "more likely to induce suicide") doesn't mean that Foxconn should just be given a pass for working a comparatively smaller number of people so hard that they offed themselves.

Do you know how many employees have killed themselves by jumping off of my building? None. None this year, none this decade, none ever. Why? Because we aren't overworked, underpaid and mistreated in various other ways.

The goal to aspire to shouldn't be "less suicides than the other factory" or "only [W] number of suicides." The goal to aspire to should be "we should treat our employees well enough that they don't want to kill themselves as a result of anything work-related.

 

[shura4ever]

[citation][nom]ltgrunt[/nom]The problem with this argument is that you're essentially excusing working conditions that are bad enough to prompt [X] number of suicides because other employers are so bad that they prompt [Y] number of suicides. It's a flawed premise. Just because there are worse places to work in China (worse in this context meaning "more likely to induce suicide") doesn't mean that Foxconn should just be given a pass for working a comparatively smaller number of people so hard that they offed themselves.Do you know how many employees have killed themselves by jumping off of my building? None. None this year, none this decade, none ever. Why? Because we aren't overworked, underpaid and mistreated in various other ways.The goal to aspire to shouldn't be "less suicides than the other factory" or "only [W] number of suicides." The goal to aspire to should be "we should treat our employees well enough that they don't want to kill themselves as a result of anything work-related.[/citation]

stop making so much sense, you are going to confuse "statistics people" who count suicides, lost lives, like they count any other number

 

[Guest]

It is amazing that Apple has stayed completely out of the spotlight while this fiasco with one of their biggest suppliers is going on.

It is also amazing that the government allows their citizens to work in these kind of conditions.

It is also pretty sad that people are literally dying to get products like the iPad to the market in such mass quantities, and then on the other side of the world people post stupid clips on youtube of them being destroyed for fun. These employees in many cases only make enough money to afford coming to work the next day, and they take pride in what they produce. Meanwhile, loaded a-holes across the ocean who have more freedom and money than they even know what to do with, can afford to frivolously purchase multiples of these devices and abuse or destroy them for kicks. It is a completely wasteful and pathetic situation.

 

[chickenhoagie]

They also asked employees to sign no-suicide contracts but retracted the idea after they realized it was a bit insensitive.i dont think seeing it as "insensitive is the problem with this. i think its more like, once ur dead, you cant be punished for breaking a contract. who's the idiot that thought of this idea?

 

[mpavao81]

heres another idea how about locking the dam door to the roof./

 

[figgus]

[citation][nom]ltgrunt[/nom]The problem with this argument is that you're essentially excusing working conditions that are bad enough to prompt [X] number of suicides because other employers are so bad that they prompt [Y] number of suicides. It's a flawed premise. Just because there are worse places to work in China (worse in this context meaning "more likely to induce suicide") doesn't mean that Foxconn should just be given a pass for working a comparatively smaller number of people so hard that they offed themselves.Do you know how many employees have killed themselves by jumping off of my building? None. None this year, none this decade, none ever. Why? Because we aren't overworked, underpaid and mistreated in various other ways.The goal to aspire to shouldn't be "less suicides than the other factory" or "only [W] number of suicides." The goal to aspire to should be "we should treat our employees well enough that they don't want to kill themselves as a result of anything work-related.[/citation]
And the problem with your argument is that you are assuming that people don't commit suicide for non-work related reasons. History is FULL of successful people who offed themselves.

 

[Guest]

hahaha, I thought from the title that they were talking about pc case and motherboard nets, to catch jumpers from hdd's, optical drives, and floppy drives. what a disappointment...

 

[Ed Oscuro]

I saw this headline and thought "How are they going to attach all those tiny little nets inside motherboards?"