FPS drop fix ?

[JinnX]

Hi so i got a new pc this Christmas (specs below) it is a high end pc and gets very good fps in games like bf4 bf3 dying light all as it should be. However i am experiencing extreme fps drops in which i will go from 70 - 80 to 30 and back up, this will happen once every minute or to for a few seconds and is highly irritating.
I have tried everything imaginable core uparked, done , disabled all power saving in bios, done, game boosters, done nothing works, this happens in every game i play aswell. I was hoping i could get an answer on here seeing as nothing else works. Also i have very bad internet about 4 mbits and 0.31 upload so dunno if this helps. Thanks for any replies thanks !

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> CD:24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE. (BLACK Colour)

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> FAN:Corsair Hydro Series H55 Quiet Liquid Cooling system w/ 120mm Radiator (Corsair CPU Water Cooling ***Overclockable XXX***)

> HDD:1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive (Single Hard Drive)

> HDD2:120 GB Corsair Force Neutron GTX SATA III Gaming MLC Solid State Disk [+80] (Single Hard Drive)

> MEMORY:16GB (2x8GB) DDR3/1600mhz Dual Channel Memory [+70] (HyperX Blu w/Heat Spreader)

> MOTHERBOARD:Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 AMD 990X Chipset, CrossFire / SLI supported, ATX Mainboard w/ 4 RAM slots, 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III /s, RAID, ***Overclockable XXX***

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[Atlasisninja]

Hello, I had a very similar problem a long time ago.
What I did to fix it was download CCleaner and run a system clean, NOT A REGISTRY CLEAN, after I ran it my FPS was back to normal

 

[JinnX]

Hello, I had a very similar problem a long time ago.
What I did to fix it was download CCleaner and run a system clean, NOT A REGISTRY CLEAN, after I ran it my FPS was back to normal

I have done sadly but to be honest i shouldn't have to the pc is only a month old!

 

[kenny1007]

What resolution and graphical settings are you playing on?

 

[Atlasisninja]

Hello, I had a very similar problem a long time ago.
What I did to fix it was download CCleaner and run a system clean, NOT A REGISTRY CLEAN, after I ran it my FPS was back to normal

I have done sadly but to be honest i shouldn't have to the pc is only a month old!

Wait so have you done this or not? Lol

 

[JinnX]

What resolution and graphical settings are you playing on?

All ultra, i have tried lower but it makes no difference, my pc can handle ultra np anyway

 

[JinnX]

Hello, I had a very similar problem a long time ago.
What I did to fix it was download CCleaner and run a system clean, NOT A REGISTRY CLEAN, after I ran it my FPS was back to normal

I have done sadly but to be honest i shouldn't have to the pc is only a month old!

I have done it yeh sorry not too clear 😛


Wait so have you done this or not? Lol

 

[090909090909]

can you monitor your temps?

 

[JinnX]

can you monitor your temps?

Have done a few times i have water cooling and non stock gpu fans but my temps are all good gpu never above 75 and cpu never 50 +

 

[090909090909]

can you monitor your temps?

Have done a few times i have water cooling and non stock gpu fans but my temps are all good gpu never above 75 and cpu never 50 +

make sure that your drivers is up to date.

 

[JinnX]

can you monitor your temps?

Have done a few times i have water cooling and non stock gpu fans but my temps are all good gpu never above 75 and cpu never 50 +

make sure that your drivers is up to date.

tried beta and latest non beta still have the problem even completely wiped all driver software using ddu

 

[090909090909]

can you monitor your temps?

Have done a few times i have water cooling and non stock gpu fans but my temps are all good gpu never above 75 and cpu never 50 +

make sure that your drivers is up to date.

tried beta and latest non beta still have the problem even completely wiped all driver software using ddu

make sure that V-sync is turned off. If it doesn't work, update your BIOS to the latest version.

 

[JinnX]

can you monitor your temps?

Have done a few times i have water cooling and non stock gpu fans but my temps are all good gpu never above 75 and cpu never 50 +

make sure that your drivers is up to date.

tried beta and latest non beta still have the problem even completely wiped all driver software using ddu

make sure that V-sync is turned off. If it doesn't work, update your BIOS to the latest version.

v sync off and i have no clue on how to update bios tbh

 

[090909090909]

can you monitor your temps?

Have done a few times i have water cooling and non stock gpu fans but my temps are all good gpu never above 75 and cpu never 50 +

make sure that your drivers is up to date.

tried beta and latest non beta still have the problem even completely wiped all driver software using ddu

make sure that V-sync is turned off. If it doesn't work, update your BIOS to the latest version.

v sync off and i have no clue on how to update bios tbh

you can update by using @BIOS utility or see your motherboard manual to know how to update it by Q-flash.make sure that electricity won't cut during the process, but don't worry that much if it goes off.

 

[JinnX]

can you monitor your temps?

Have done a few times i have water cooling and non stock gpu fans but my temps are all good gpu never above 75 and cpu never 50 +

make sure that your drivers is up to date.

tried beta and latest non beta still have the problem even completely wiped all driver software using ddu

make sure that V-sync is turned off. If it doesn't work, update your BIOS to the latest version.

v sync off and i have no clue on how to update bios tbh

you can update by using @BIOS utility or see your motherboard manual to know how to update it by Q-flash.make sure that electricity won't cut during the process, but don't worry that much if it goes off.

Ive checked online with the lates bios for my board and it seems im running on it so should i still get a different version or stay on the apparent latest one?

 

[090909090909]

Can you monitor your CPU,GPU and HDD usage during gaming?

 

[JinnX]

Can you monitor your CPU,GPU and HDD usage during gaming?

How?

 

[090909090909]

Can you monitor your CPU,GPU and HDD usage during gaming?

How?

Download MSI afterburner > settings > Monitoring > choose all CPU cores, GPU temp, framerate, GPU usage, RAM usage, GPU memory usage and other settings > play a game > provide me with the details.

 

[JinnX]

Can you monitor your CPU,GPU and HDD usage during gaming?

How?

Download MSI afterburner > settings > Monitoring > choose all CPU cores, GPU temp, framerate, GPU usage, RAM usage, GPU memory usage and other settings > play a game > provide me with the details.

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[090909090909]

From the pictures,It is clear that the CPU ( FX-8370) (core usage 99% some times)bottlenecks your GPU (R9 290X). In the end, it depends on the game. If the game needs more IPC from the processor, it will bottleneck the GPU. I don't think that you will have bottlenecks and FPS drops at all games,So don't worry and try other games. And you can also overclock the CPU or Go to Intel. what game did you play during the monitoring?

 

[JinnX]

From the pictures,It is clear that the CPU ( FX-8370) (core usage 99% some times)bottlenecks your GPU (R9 290X). In the end, it depends on the game. If the game needs more IPC from the processor, it will bottleneck the GPU. I don't think that you will have bottlenecks and FPS drops at all games,So don't worry and try other games. And you can also overclock the CPU or Go to Intel. what game did you play during the monitoring?

It seems that that description was worng :/ i am actually using a 9370 at 4.42 ghz
I was paying bf4

 

[090909090909]

From the pictures,It is clear that the CPU ( FX-8370) (core usage 99% some times)bottlenecks your GPU (R9 290X). In the end, it depends on the game. If the game needs more IPC from the processor, it will bottleneck the GPU. I don't think that you will have bottlenecks and FPS drops at all games,So don't worry and try other games. And you can also overclock the CPU or Go to Intel. what game did you play during the monitoring?

It seems that that description was worng :/ i am actually using a 9370 at 4.42 ghz
I was paying bf4

the FX 9370 is just an overclocked FX 8350.the temps that you said before,was it the temps during gaming?. and also make sure that the GPU isn't turned to quiet mode and Try another game.
anyway,the FX 9370 bottlenecks the R9 290x at the games which need IPC.
I have searched and found out that BF3,BF4 and BFH have the same problem with the combination of (FX processor-R9 290X) because the FX 9370 or 8350 bottlenecks,so try another game.

 

[JinnX]

From the pictures,It is clear that the CPU ( FX-8370) (core usage 99% some times)bottlenecks your GPU (R9 290X). In the end, it depends on the game. If the game needs more IPC from the processor, it will bottleneck the GPU. I don't think that you will have bottlenecks and FPS drops at all games,So don't worry and try other games. And you can also overclock the CPU or Go to Intel. what game did you play during the monitoring?

It seems that that description was worng :/ i am actually using a 9370 at 4.42 ghz
I was paying bf4

the FX 9370 is just an overclocked FX 8350.the temps that you said before,was it the temps during gaming?. and also make sure that the GPU isn't turned to quiet mode and Try another game.
anyway,the FX 9370 bottlenecks the R9 290x at the games which need IPC.
I have searched and found out that BF3,BF4 and BFH have the same problem with the combination of (FX processor-R9 290X) because the FX 9370 or 8350 bottlenecks,so try another game.

Thanks man! i had no idea 😛 2 questions what is quiet mode and where is it cool and quiet? and yeah i played metro 2033 all ultra and experienced no fps spikes so i guess thats it any ideas on how to lessen it?
the temps were whilst gaming yeah

 

[090909090909]

From the pictures,It is clear that the CPU ( FX-8370) (core usage 99% some times)bottlenecks your GPU (R9 290X). In the end, it depends on the game. If the game needs more IPC from the processor, it will bottleneck the GPU. I don't think that you will have bottlenecks and FPS drops at all games,So don't worry and try other games. And you can also overclock the CPU or Go to Intel. what game did you play during the monitoring?

It seems that that description was worng :/ i am actually using a 9370 at 4.42 ghz
I was paying bf4

the FX 9370 is just an overclocked FX 8350.the temps that you said before,was it the temps during gaming?. and also make sure that the GPU isn't turned to quiet mode and Try another game.
anyway,the FX 9370 bottlenecks the R9 290x at the games which need IPC.
I have searched and found out that BF3,BF4 and BFH have the same problem with the combination of (FX processor-R9 290X) because the FX 9370 or 8350 bottlenecks,so try another game.

Thanks man! i had no idea 😛 2 questions what is quiet mode and where is it cool and quiet? and yeah i played metro 2033 all ultra and experienced no fps spikes so i guess thats it any ideas on how to lessen it?
the temps were whilst gaming yeah

that means that the FPS drops in BF was made because of the FX- 9370 bottleneck,but you won't have that bottleneck at all games. you will have it at few games like BF. To solve this , you can upgrade to Intel or overclock your CPU (FX- 9370).
I don't recommend upgrading to Intel right now because you won't FPS drops all time.Wait for broadwell or Skylake at least.

 

[mdocod]

It's possible that the cause of your sudden drops has nothing to do with the poor CPU architecture. Yes piledriver isn't ideal for real-time workloads, but BF4 should run about as well on a 9370 as it does on an i5-4440. in DX11 with an AMD GPU, you shouldn't see FPS drops below ~40FPS in super congested conditions, and if you enable Mantle, it should hold above 55FPS pretty much all the time.

I suspect your problem, is that you have no VRM cooling and a CPU with up to ~200W power dissipation, the motherboard is throttling the CPU down when a temp threshold is reached, causing reduced in-game performance. You may not be able to observe the temp limit that is triggering this, but if you placed a finger on your VRM heatink while playing BF4 I'm sure you'd get the message.

I would advise running AMD overdrive, observing CPU thermal margins. Don't trust other software with CPU core temps on PileDriver in Windows unless you understand how it is calibrated. (for example: I know exactly how much thermal margin I have remaining when observing core temps in linux, but only because I understand how the lm-sensors hardware monitoring software has been calibrated).

I would advise running HWiNFO to graph CPU clock speeds, loads, and, if your board supports it, socket temps, (in my experience, I haven't had much luck polling for a true socket or VRM temp probe on gigabyte boards but it's worth a try).

I would advise running prime 95 torture testing to see if the CPU cooler is indeed keeping the CPU within thermal margin without throttling, or if it is throttling due to the motherboard overheating. If the CPU throttles with thermal margin remaining in AOD, then it's the board overheating, if the CPU hits 0 thermal margin remaining, it will probably be throttling.

I suspect the H55 is bordering on inadequate for the FX-9370, and I suspect the board is overheating due to the lack of cooling.