Question Fps drops in every game

[timkilber]

I bought a Vega 56 and since then my Pc only causes weird problems...the card doesnt do what it is supposed to whatsoever.
So I ran MSI Kombuster stress test and this is what happened.

https://imgur.com/a/KlNP9IO

View: https://imgur.com/a/KlNP9IO


Everything seems to be broken in some way or another, do you think its the PSU, because everything ran just fine with my old gtx 1050ti.

Specs:
Ryzen 5 1600
AMD Vega 56
16 GB RAM
600 WATT beQuiet! PSU

 

[scout_03]

use occt and stress test psu on max load for about 10 min do this on all is test .

 

[hftvhftv]

I'd try using DDU to uninstall your display drivers then reinstall the AMD one. Possibly just a glitch from the old Nvidia drivers on your system.

 

[timkilber]

I'd try using DDU to uninstall your display drivers then reinstall the AMD one. Possibly just a glitch from the old Nvidia drivers on your system.

I did that already

 

[timkilber]

So I tryed to adjust my power settings to performance, this seems to have help with the cpu issues but, my GPU still fluctuates

https://imgur.com/a/azkQrdS

View: https://imgur.com/a/azkQrdS

 

[timkilber]

use occt and stress test psu on max load for about 10 min do this on all is test .

Alright I am gonna try that, I'll update you whenever I'm done with it.

 

[timkilber]

use occt and stress test psu on max load for about 10 min do this on all is test .

CPU :
I think this one is normal...

https://imgur.com/a/h2r6CiO

View: https://imgur.com/a/h2r6CiO


GPU:
Now this one becomes wierd...at first everything is normal besides the coreclock averageing at 1350mhz instead of the vega 56s 1550-1600mhz boost clock, but then it starts flucuating for no reason at all. The max temps it is reaching is 75C

https://imgur.com/a/qAyMVKn

View: https://imgur.com/a/qAyMVKn


PSU:
And this is the worst, not only does the gpu do the same thing again, my cpu reaches 95C, which should not happen at all

https://imgur.com/a/wfdQmDo

View: https://imgur.com/a/wfdQmDo


It just cant be the GPU because that is the third Vega 56 I have tested.
Can it be the BIOS?

 

[-Fran-]

Looks to me like you have termal issues with the CPU and the GPU is just normal to me.

Leaving your benchmarking aside, how do games look to you? At the end of the day you got the card to play, not just waste electricity on benchmarks, right?

Cheers!

 

[timkilber]

Looks to me like you have termal issues with the CPU and the GPU is just normal to me.

Leaving your benchmarking aside, how do games look to you? At the end of the day you got the card to play, not just waste electricity on benchmarks, right?

Cheers!

I see what you mean, but here come the clue:
In Overwatch for exaple when I set everything on low I should get 300 fps(max) easily, but I get 200 at max and it tends to drop down to sub 100.
At that time my cpu barely reaches 60C and my GPU goes up to 55C

https://imgur.com/a/kl6aon7

View: https://imgur.com/a/kl6aon7

 

[-Fran-]

And why do you know you should be getting 300FPS?

What are you comparing against?

Cheers!

 

[timkilber]

And why do you know you should be getting 300FPS?

What are you comparing against?

Cheers!

Well Overwatch isn't particulary hard to run on low, so a 300€ card should be able to run it smoothly + I watched some Benchmarks from other people with very simmilar rigs. I mean even a gtx 1660ti gets well above 250.

 

[timkilber]

Another problem is that, ReLive keeps crashing my drivers when starting games or tabbing out and in again. Not even a windows reinstallation helped.

 

[sizzling]

Well Overwatch isn't particulary hard to run on low, so a 300€ card should be able to run it smoothly + I watched some Benchmarks from other people with very simmilar rigs. I mean even a gtx 1660ti gets well above 250.

Your best possible FPS is determined by the cpu, the gpu determines at what resolution and game settings you can achieve those FPS. Overwatch is a game known to do significantly better on Intel. The system you are comparing too, what was the full spec?

Also what’s your RAM speed? This also has a big impact with Ryzen.

 

[timkilber]

Your best possible FPS is determined by the cpu, the gpu determines at what resolution and game settings you can achieve those FPS. Overwatch is a game known to do significantly better on Intel. The system you are comparing too, what was the full spec?

Also what’s your RAM speed? This also has a big impact with Ryzen.

The guy with the 1660ti had a ryzen 5 2600.

Regarding Ram: I have 4x4GB 2400mhz Ram

 

[-Fran-]

And the guy with the Ry2600? I have a 2700X and I have 32GB running at 3333Mhz for extra speed. It makes a huge difference for Ryzen CPUs as the Infinity Fabric speed (interlink for cores inside the CPU) is 1:1 with it.

Your* RAM at 2400 is taking, probably, ~10% of your CPU's processing capabilities.

Cheers!

 

[sizzling]

The guy with the 1660ti had a ryzen 5 2600.

Regarding Ram: I have 4x4GB 2400mhz Ram

That is slow RAM for Ryzen, something like 3000-3200 has a significant boost and the 2600 already has a slight increase over the 1600.

 

[timkilber]

There definetly is a huge jump from 2133 to 2400 but not to 3000. And I know that the 2600 is a little better, but not 150 fps better.
Even with 2133 Ram my fps should be as bad as they are.
Source:

View: https://youtu.be/C1LHvLPERMM

 

[-Fran-]

What about the speed of the CPU itself? My 2700X boosts to 4.1Ghz in all cores when playing. The 1600 should be ~3.7Ghz? Unless you have it well cooled and OC'ed?

Cheers!

 

[timkilber]

What about the speed of the CPU itself? My 2700X boosts to 4.1Ghz in all cores when playing. The 1600 should be ~3.7Ghz? Unless you have it well cooled and OC'ed?

Cheers!

Mine's running at stock settings

 

[-Fran-]

Well, the stock stats of the 1600 are lower by a lot:

Base Clock	Max Boost Clock
3.2GHz	3.6GHz

The 2600 is:

Base Clock	Max Boost Clock
3.4GHz	3.9GHz

And it has better Turbo fine tunning, as it can get all its cores to higher speeds.

EDIT: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2362?vs=2360

That's a direct comparison.

Cheers!

 

[scout_03]

you have a cpu overheath that does not help also give us full name and model of both ram with motherboard also what king of air flow you have in the case model of it .

 

[timkilber]

you have a cpu overheath that does not help also give us full name and model of both ram with motherboard also what king of air flow you have in the case model of it .

Motherboard: MSI B350 MATE
Ram: G.Skill Aegis DDR4-2400 DIMM CL15

It is NOT a cpu throtteling problem because my cpu does not even get to 60C when playing overwatch on low settings, my system just doesnt perform with 100%.
It seems to be performing quite stable when on max settings and when getting hot, but on those setting I cant get stable 144 to stay competitiv which I want.

 

[timkilber]

Well, the stock stats of the 1600 are lower by a lot:

Base Clock	Max Boost Clock
3.2GHz	3.6GHz

The 2600 is:

Base Clock	Max Boost Clock
3.4GHz	3.9GHz

And it has better Turbo fine tunning, as it can get all its cores to higher speeds.

EDIT: https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/2362?vs=2360

That's a direct comparison.

Cheers!

This is no explanation why my fps on low settings are so much worse and unstable though.

 

[-Fran-]

This is no explanation why my fps on low settings are so much worse and unstable though.

Oh, it is. It may not be the whole explanation, but you need to understand when you compare systems, there's more than just the CPU models and GPU models at play. I have no clue if your system should be getting 150 or 300 FPS myself, but what I know is you should have playable framerates for the games you want to play.

Cheers!

 

[timkilber]

Oh, it is. It may not be the whole explanation, but you need to understand when you compare systems, there's more than just the CPU models and GPU models at play. I have no clue if your system should be getting 150 or 300 FPS myself, but what I know is you should have playable framerates for the games you want to play.

Cheers!

The fact that my gpu crashes randomly and shuts down my pc for a couple of seconds and Overwatch says "Rendering Device lost" isnt very promising either. Something is broken....and I dont know what