Frame rate reducing while gaming

[subinjose]

you CANNOT crossfire on a 770 chipset, and the psu at 320W for the +12V rails wont work that well either.

Ohh thanks for the information. Then i think i've to change my system may be after one year..

 

[subinjose]

I brought my system to the company service center and they did the fur test. Within 5 seconds the system restarted. They replaced the graphics card to the same Radeon 5750.

In the fur test i could see that normally the frame rate is 30. And the temperature goes upto 72 degree...

I'll play the game again and post the result...

 

[subinjose]

I played the game again with the new XFX Radeon 5750. But still same problem.

 

[unknown_13]

I think the problem is PSU related or bad PCIe slot, but more probably the psu is causing the problem

During idle, or light work (eg web browsing, listening music etc) or multitask, do you notice any slowdowns or problems? It might be due to other parts in the system, like bad RAM stick or something...

 

[Dekasav]

I almost certainly wouldn't put an HD 5870 under that PSU, especially if you've been using it awhile (2-3years). It'll only put out 27 amps on the 12v rail, which is pretty slim for a high-end card. Doesn't say it has any PCI-e 6-pin connectors, either, and any PSU that needs adapters just doesn't sit well with me.

It should work, though.

And the risk to your computer is a fried everything if the PSU falters. It CAN be ugly.

 

[unknown_13]

I almost certainly wouldn't put an HD 5870 under that PSU, especially if you've been using it awhile (2-3years). It'll only put out 27 amps on the 12v rail, which is pretty slim for a high-end card. Doesn't say it has any PCI-e 6-pin connectors, either, and any PSU that needs adapters just doesn't sit well with me.

It should work, though.

And the risk to your computer is a fried everything if the PSU falters. It CAN be ugly.

I'm in a high doubt a 5870 would run on a 500w psu. (still that isn't an psu from some worldwide known manifacturer, eh?)

 

[Onus]

A HD5870 will run just fine on a quality PSU, e.g. one from Antec, Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, Seasonic, or Enermax.
If they replace the PSU, they'll probably just use another crappy one; you may need to pay extra to get a decent one, but it would be worthwhile (as long as they don't charge through the nose, in which case never mind the warranty and replace it yourself).

 

[unknown_13]

A HD5870 will run just fine on a quality PSU, e.g. one from Antec, Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, Seasonic, or Enermax.
If they replace the PSU, they'll probably just use another crappy one; you may need to pay extra to get a decent one, but it would be worthwhile (as long as they don't charge through the nose, in which case never mind the warranty and replace it yourself).

Yeah those are one of the best psu manifactures.

If he would have had an 550w psu from antec, corsair etc. he would have no trouble with the 5870

 

[subinjose]

Anyway i've got enough with my system. So no more buying of game PC. I'm planning to build a new one.. Here is the configuration in my mind. LIke to know ur suggestions..

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition,3400MHz ,Quad Core, Sockel AM3, 8MB Cache, 125 Watt
ATI Radeon HD 5970 , 2GB DDR5, 735MHz, PCI-Ex16 2.1, DVI, Dual GPU 735MHz, MEM 4040MHz 512bit
Gigabyte 890XA-UD3 , ATX, AMD790X, 5200 MT/s, AM3, 4xDDR3(1866)/1333/1066MHz, 2xPCI-E V2.0, G-LAN, SATA3.0, SATA-RAID 0/1/5/0+1, 2xPCI-E x16 (16x, 8x), FireWire, USB3.0
Corsair XMS3 Dominator 4GB 2-Kit Phenom II DDR3 1600MHz CL8
Western Caviar Black 3,5"-HDD, SATA-III, 1 TB (1000 GB), 7200 rpm, 64 MB Cache, OEM
Coolermaster Cosmos 1000- Case

I've not decided the PSU and CPU cooler..

 

[unknown_13]

Anyway i've got enough with my system. So no more buying of game PC. I'm planning to build a new one.. Here is the configuration in my mind. LIke to know ur suggestions..

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition,3400MHz ,Quad Core, Sockel AM3, 8MB Cache, 125 Watt
ATI Radeon HD 5970 , 2GB DDR5, 735MHz, PCI-Ex16 2.1, DVI, Dual GPU 735MHz, MEM 4040MHz 512bit
Gigabyte 890XA-UD3 , ATX, AMD790X, 5200 MT/s, AM3, 4xDDR3(1866)/1333/1066MHz, 2xPCI-E V2.0, G-LAN, SATA3.0, SATA-RAID 0/1/5/0+1, 2xPCI-E x16 (16x, 8x), FireWire, USB3.0
Corsair XMS3 Dominator 4GB 2-Kit Phenom II DDR3 1600MHz CL8
Western Caviar Black 3,5"-HDD, SATA-III, 1 TB (1000 GB), 7200 rpm, 64 MB Cache, OEM
Coolermaster Cosmos 1000- Case

I've not decided the PSU and CPU cooler..

That's good, but, would you wait a little for PII X6 (since you'll get a mobo with 890gx chipset)? That 965 will make little difference to your PII X4 940
And i think you should't waste money on a 5970. Way better get a HD 5870

As for the PSU will you plan to Xfire in the future?
Here (if you Xfire):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371026&cm_re=antec_750w-_-17-371-026-_-Product

If not:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371021&cm_re=antec_650w-_-17-371-021-_-Product

Always it's better to have more power, eh?😉

 

[supere989]

I did an auto tune using catalyst utility. And now the values are different.

2010-04-06 19:52:48 , 157.0 , 300.0 , 41.0 , 36 , 1 , - , 40.0 , 41.0 , 41.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:49 , 157.0 , 300.0 , 41.0 , 36 , 3 , - , 40.0 , 41.0 , 41.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:50 , 500.0 , 1000.0 , 42.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 40.5 , 42.5 , 42.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:51 , 157.0 , 300.0 , 42.0 , 36 , 66 , - , 40.5 , 42.5 , 42.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:52 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 45.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 41.0 , 45.5 , 44.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:53 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 45.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 41.5 , 45.5 , 44.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:54 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 45.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 41.5 , 45.5 , 45.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:55 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 46.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 41.5 , 46.0 , 45.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:57 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 46.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.0 , 46.0 , 45.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:58 , 500.0 , 300.0 , 44.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.0 , 44.0 , 44.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:52:59 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 46.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.0 , 46.0 , 45.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:00 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 46.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.5 , 46.5 , 45.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:01 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.5 , 46.5 , 45.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:02 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 46.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.5 , 47.0 , 46.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:03 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.5 , 47.0 , 46.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:04 , 157.0 , 300.0 , 45.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.0 , 45.5 , 45.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:05 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 43.0 , 46.5 , 45.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:06 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 43.0 , 47.0 , 46.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:07 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 43.0 , 47.0 , 46.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:08 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 43.0 , 47.0 , 46.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:09 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 43.5 , 47.0 , 46.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:10 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 43.0 , 47.5 , 47.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:11 , 500.0 , 1000.0 , 45.0 , 36 , 19 , - , 43.0 , 45.5 , 45.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:12 , 500.0 , 1000.0 , 45.0 , 36 , 9 , - , 43.0 , 45.0 , 45.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:13 , 500.0 , 1000.0 , 45.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.5 , 45.0 , 45.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:14 , 500.0 , 300.0 , 45.0 , 36 , 19 , - , 43.0 , 45.0 , 45.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:15 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 46.0 , 36 , 62 , - , 43.0 , 46.0 , 45.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:16 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 43.0 , 47.5 , 47.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:17 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 47.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 43.5 , 47.5 , 47.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:18 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 48.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 44.0 , 48.0 , 47.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:53:19 , 760.0 , 1150.0 , 48.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 43.5 , 48.0 , 47.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:57:02 , 157.0 , 300.0 , 61.0 , 41 , 2 , - , 59.0 , 61.0 , 60.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:57:03 , 157.0 , 300.0 , 59.0 , 41 , 2 , - , 58.5 , 59.0 , 59.0 ,

2010-04-06 19:57:04 , 157.0 , 300.0 , 58.0 , 39 , 1 , - , 58.0 , 58.5 , 58.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:57:05 , 157.0 , 300.0 , 58.0 , 39 , 0 , - , 57.0 , 57.5 , 58.5 ,

2010-04-06 19:58:20 , 157.0 , 300.0 , 43.0 , 36 , 0 , - , 42.0 , 43.0 , 43.5 ,

If you look closely at the data in this log, you may notice that your GPU temps are rising after you exit the game.

Time index 19:53:19 shows core 0 to be at 43.5, then at 19:57:02 the GPU speed drops, and the temp jumps up 16.5 degrees. I looks as if the Fan is being shut down too early.

You can use a tool called Riva tuner to force your Video cards cooling fans to a specific Duty cycle 0-100% and they will stay at this value while Riva is running. I would do another test with Riva having the Fan Duty Cycle at 100% and see if your temps drop.


Another piece of information i would like to add to this thread is that I have found that even though you may be running a PSU that meets the minimum recommended power requirement, the power draw from the GPU isn't the only thing to worry about. I have ran into problems where the GPU's start out cool, then after a couple minutes start to heat up as usuall, then the Duty cycle of the cooling fans kick on and overstress the power supply causing a system hang. This was using an Asus Rampage II, I7 920, 2 4970x2s and other basic minimal hardware to operate the system. We were using a 650watt PSU. Upgraded to a 1200watt PSU and the problem went away.

Just some food for thought!...

Cheers

 

[subinjose]

hi supere989....thanks for the comments... i'm also thinking it's a psu problem. Because we replaced the graphics card, but still we have problem. And i've noticed that the sound from PSU has increased significantly after the problem starts...