Question From an early outset, is the 5800x3d worth the wait?

[Adam1998]

I've held out on a CPU upgrade for CES to pass, notably waiting for AMD's zen 3 refresh. But with only one chip coming in spring with no price or true benchmarks yet, I'm not really sure whether it's worth waiting for a single chip.

My other options are to pick from the Alderlake line or rely on the tried and tested 5800x.

Any thoughts? I'm after a multipurpose productivity and gaming rig which is why I'm looking at ryzen 7/i7

 

[drea.drechsler]

Of course Intel sued Amd. Multiple times. It's part of the reason Amd was always on the sidelines, prolly the most well known being Intels suit that the FX was not an 8 core cpu, but really a 4 core with shared nodes. It drug Amd through the Court system for years and with Intel "95% of the World's Internet", they had the money to staff bigger, better and more lawyers. (Intel finally won that one). Ryzen did more for Amd than most realize. Ryzen performance wasn't just a slap in the face, it was a well deserved beat-down that left Intel staggering.

Ummm....sorry...that was a class action lawsuit. Settled for 12 million or so; probably not even office expenses for the executive suite in Austin. Of course we don't know but the settlement could have been simply good PR on AMD's part, something companies often do when the costs of litigation are going to be higher than the settlement and prevailing on a principle is moot. Noteably: FX/Bulldozer/Excavator was a dead architecture and Zen was ascending. I'm not sure terms of the settlement were ever disclosed, but that the plaintiffs settled for such a paltry sum suggests they knew they didn't have much of a case and jumped at it when AMD offered.

Most of the Intel lawsuits I'm aware of concerned AMD's use of IP. AMD prevailed more often than not for a variety reasons. Some of the suits lasted longer than they should have because Intel used typical Intel tactics and committed discovery fraud, a big no-no.

An interesting read, if a bit short:

https://yannalaw.com/services/trials-litigation/litigation-cottage-industry/amd-intel-litigation/