Fry's now flogging the HL2 Collector's Edition for $49.99...

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, mace wrote:

> Werner Spahl wrote:
>
> > I'll continue to correct those SS2-is-the-best-trolls as well 😉.
>
> HA! Since early 90s LG had been the innovator in the business but what

I'm not saying anyhing against LG. I didn't play SS but it seems to be the
milestone others here claim it to be and I really loved the Thief series.
But SS2 for me is just a cashin on SS and not done very well in comparison
to other contempary games. Was this even done by the original LG people?

--
Werner Spahl (spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de) Freedom for
"The meaning of my life is to make me crazy" Vorlonships

 

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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:52:57 +0100, Werner Spahl
<spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:

>On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Walter Mitty wrote:
>
>> In your opinion. Not in the opinion of the majority. Example of "hype"?
>> Hl2 has swept the awards : how can it have been "hype"?
>
>Hype for me is unusual large press coverage and similar before the game is
>available. This happened with HL2 a lot and lots of awards and tests shine
>by refusing to state obvious weaknesses like it's linearity, lack of cool
>weapons, lack of enemy diversity, lack of story, I won't start about the
>Steam issue 😉. Fileplanet even has a special menue section for it! Why?

Because they can't spell menu?

 

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"sayNO2steam" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Mean_Chlorine wrote:
>
> > Thank piracy for that.
> >
> > I know I shouldn't care. I know I should just get a console and live
> > with the shitty controls, shitty resolution, and cutesy graphics, but
> > it *annoys* me that moron pirates are killing PC gaming. It truly
> > does.
>
> me too and its incredibly depressing and worrisome, but let me ask you
> what did you do to try and fight it? yes you can make a change!
> if every gamer defends what he most likes, pc games, and fights piracy
> be assured we can save pc games from this continuous erosion
> but i don't see you do anything special
> yes, i saw you warning a pirate promoting warez in this group, but that
> is not enough...
> we should create a group of pc gamers against piracy
> i'm talking serious man, we already know the autorities are doing too
> little and the publishers don't know how to figth piracy except for
> introducing even more damaging and intrusive copy protection, so it
> must be we to do something, we must take the matters in our own hands
>
> the only problem i see is steam...
> for me steam is promoting piracy and that's incredibly damaging, and
> i know you are a pro-steam, so steam is a very dividing issue i would
> not mind being in a group fighting piracy and being quiet about steam
> if the pro-steam gamers would do the same and be quiet about it and
> also stop the insults of any gamers which questions valve
>

You want everyone to fight pirates by joining a "pc gamers against piracy
group"; but only if they don't talk about steam?

> if we cut steam from the agenda for now, i would accept be in a group
> of pc gamers fighting steam
>

You want to be in a group that cuts steam from the agenda, and the group
would be "pc gamers fighting steam"?

 

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"noman" <ZZZYYno_m_anZZZYY@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 14:18:27 +0100, Werner Spahl
> <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Walter Mitty wrote:
> >
> >> It must really irk you that HL2 has gathered so many awards and has
sold
> >> millions of copies to gamers who enjoy good quality, top notch games.
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >Can you please offer us some concrete numbers here? I could never find
> >any, contrary to the record sale numbers stated for Doom 3 and Halo 2.
> >
>
> 1.7 million retail copies in two months (up to January 15th). Since
> that press release by Vivendi, NPD have released two weekly sales
> lists and HL2 continues to stay at #1, ahead of even Sims2.
> Considering its $55 MSRP, it's selling phenomenally well.
>
> Search for 'Vivendi 1.7 Half-Life2'. You should be able to find the
> press release.
> --
> Noman

The number of units sold is only half the equation. The other half is how
much was the developement/production cost? If only they reported the
numbers like they do for the movies.

Movie X cost $200M and netted $150M at the box office. (bust)
Movie Z cost $4M and netted $20M at the box office. (winner)

So even if HL2 sells 3 million units @ $40 (USD), but developement cost is
$500million, then its a bust. Assuming I did my math correctly. 😉

(note: these numbers are just used for example only; not meant to reflect
real world, ....)

 

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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, "OldDog" wrote:

> You want everyone to fight pirates by joining a "pc gamers against piracy
> group"; but only if they don't talk about steam?

no! i didn't write that... or again its my awful english
what i wrote or what i meant to say was i would join a group fighting
piracy and don't talk about the issues involving steam, cause for me
steam promotes piracy, so that pro-steam gamers that want to also fight
piracy would not be offended

> You want to be in a group that cuts steam from the agenda, and the group
> would be "pc gamers fighting steam"?

oh please... i misspelled it... its "pc gamers fighting piracy", i wrote
it wrong...
you guys from the pro-steam adore to find my mistakes... i bet you find
it a personal victory when it happens

but going back to the main issue... would you join a group of pc gamers
fighting piracy? and would you accept me as a member? i would promise
that i would not talk about steam... at least at first... but later we
would have to deal with it, cause steam promotes piracy, steam is the
first system to FORCE pc gamers into piracy, so if we want to fight
piracy we have to fight steam... but at first i would not mind putting
steam aside... so what do you say?

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its only in the hands of every pc gamer defend what he likes the most
its only pc gamers who will lose with piracy cause the publishers and
developers will find other businesses to work in without being robbed

 

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"sayNO2piracy" <sayNO2steam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, "OldDog" wrote:
>
> > You want everyone to fight pirates by joining a "pc gamers against
piracy
> > group"; but only if they don't talk about steam?
>
> no! i didn't write that... or again its my awful english
> what i wrote or what i meant to say was i would join a group fighting
> piracy and don't talk about the issues involving steam, cause for me
> steam promotes piracy, so that pro-steam gamers that want to also fight
> piracy would not be offended
>

No problem. I'll be the first to admit that sometimes what I say or write
isn't what I meant. Amazing how my mind is thinking one thing, and my
hands/voice say something completely different.

> > You want to be in a group that cuts steam from the agenda, and the group
> > would be "pc gamers fighting steam"?
>
> oh please... i misspelled it... its "pc gamers fighting piracy", i wrote
> it wrong...

Again, no problem. It's just that it didn't make cents to me when I red it.
😉

> you guys from the pro-steam adore to find my mistakes... i bet you find
> it a personal victory when it happens
>

Let him who hasn't made a missteak cast the first stone.

BTW I enjoy chatting with you. And I understand English isn't your first
language. So if I ask for you to clarify something, please don't take it
personnel.

> but going back to the main issue... would you join a group of pc gamers
> fighting piracy? and would you accept me as a member? i would promise
> that i would not talk about steam... at least at first... but later we
> would have to deal with it, cause steam promotes piracy, steam is the
> first system to FORCE pc gamers into piracy, so if we want to fight
> piracy we have to fight steam... but at first i would not mind putting
> steam aside... so what do you say?
>

Would I join and can you be accepted? Maybe and yes. Maybe, cause maybe
the club wouldn't want me as a member.

What do you see the group doing that would help fight piracy?

Groucho Marx, "I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."

 

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:40:47 +0100, Werner Spahl
<spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, it was written:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:52:57 +0100, Werner Spahl
>> <spahl@cup.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
>>
>> >Fileplanet even has a special menue section for it! Why?
>>
>> Because they can't spell menu?
>
>Not everyone here is a native speaker and in german menu is menue, ok?

No.