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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:44:17 -0400, Cathy wrote:
>> It shouldn't have. In all of my messages or just the one you
>> referred to?
>
> I only saw the one you posted for me which had big fonts. I didn't check
> others which you posted
> around the same time you sent mine. Do you keep a copy of your "Sent"
> mail? was the one to me which I am referring in your usual font?
Yes, I keep copies, but I also retrieved the message and it
appeared just above yours in this thread. Looks fine to me.
>> My newsreader doesn't really have font options such as
>> yours (OE) does. If you changed fonts in the middle of your
>> messages I wouldn't know it. All I can select for viewing is fixed
>> pitch or proportional, and the setting applies to the entire
>> message, not parts of it. In your entire message, including quotes
>> from my previous message, everything was the same, ie, no "big
>> fonts". Even our text settings (as shown in the message headers) is
>> identical:
>
> How strange.
> I have never changed fonts in the 8 years I've used Outlook Express.
> Mine is always set to
> Medium. Medium is what I am using now and your message this time is the
> same as mine. I never use HTML either. Yesterday, when your message had
> big fonts, yours was the only one in this Newsgroup to have big fonts.
> All the other 150 messages were "regular" - same as usual. When I
> replied to your message, I couldn't get my settings to type in regular
> size fonts. It wouldn't let me so my reply was in large fonts.The only
> time I have seen this is if the sender is using HTML text and I have
> checked "Reply to message in format it was written" (something like
> that) in OE, but I never put a check in there as I never use HTML
> settings.
You may have sent the reply using large fonts, but it looked the
same as all other messages. The only way my newsreader will display
a different font is for me to configure it to display all received
messages with that font. If doesn't understand or do anything with
embedded font commands that may have been sent by OE. If HTML is
included in a message, it'll show the HTML command (such as an
embedded "<FONT COLOR=BLUE>") but it is treated only as ASCII text,
not as a command.
>> Maybe a transmission glitch produced a garbled character or two?
>
> Your entire message was in large fonts, from the start of your message.
> Was my reply back to you in large fonts? It was sent that way on my end
> in reply to your large fonts.
No, your reply looked like all replies. My newsreader is not OE,
thank heaven.
>> I've seen that with HTML or output sent to a printer, where a single
>> messed up character can inadvertantly change the fonts of following
>> characters, and if the page is reloaded, or the output sent to the
>> printer a second time, the bogus fonts don't reappear. Only my
>> email program (Eudora) allows for different fonts to be used within
>> messages, and I'm not aware that it can be used for anything but
>> email.
>
> It must have been some glitch and appeared like it was on your end, and
> the reason I say that was because your message was the only one in the
> dozens of newsgroup messages I saw last night. Also I sent other
> messages last night and all were in my regular font. Oh well, I really
> don't know what happened, but this message of yours is back to normal.
>
I think the glitch was neither on my end (the Agent newsreader)
nor on your end (OE), but somewhere in between. The copy of my
message that Agent retrieved has no unusual characters in it, so the
message made it to my news server as it should have. The glitch
(garbled text) could have appeared either when it was being sent
from my news server to yours, or it could have appeared later, when
it was being sent from your news server to OE running on your
computer. I don't know what OE's capabilities are, but I could test
these two possibilities with Agent by deleting the body of the
message and re-retrieving it. If it came back again showing large
fonts (just a "thought experiment" here, since Agent doesn't do
fonts), I'd assume that the news server had the garbled copy of the
message. If it came back showing normal fonts, I'd assume that the
large fonts were due to a glitch while the newsreader was retrieving
the message the first time.
The fact that on your end none of the following messages had large
fonts only means that OE wasn't written by a totally incompetent
programmer that thought that font commands intended for one specific
message should apply to all following messages unless or until
cancelled by a later message's font command. In other words, even
if the glitch occurred on your end, you wouldn't expect all
succeeding messages to continue displaying large fonts.
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:44:17 -0400, Cathy wrote:
>> It shouldn't have. In all of my messages or just the one you
>> referred to?
>
> I only saw the one you posted for me which had big fonts. I didn't check
> others which you posted
> around the same time you sent mine. Do you keep a copy of your "Sent"
> mail? was the one to me which I am referring in your usual font?
Yes, I keep copies, but I also retrieved the message and it
appeared just above yours in this thread. Looks fine to me.
>> My newsreader doesn't really have font options such as
>> yours (OE) does. If you changed fonts in the middle of your
>> messages I wouldn't know it. All I can select for viewing is fixed
>> pitch or proportional, and the setting applies to the entire
>> message, not parts of it. In your entire message, including quotes
>> from my previous message, everything was the same, ie, no "big
>> fonts". Even our text settings (as shown in the message headers) is
>> identical:
>
> How strange.
> I have never changed fonts in the 8 years I've used Outlook Express.
> Mine is always set to
> Medium. Medium is what I am using now and your message this time is the
> same as mine. I never use HTML either. Yesterday, when your message had
> big fonts, yours was the only one in this Newsgroup to have big fonts.
> All the other 150 messages were "regular" - same as usual. When I
> replied to your message, I couldn't get my settings to type in regular
> size fonts. It wouldn't let me so my reply was in large fonts.The only
> time I have seen this is if the sender is using HTML text and I have
> checked "Reply to message in format it was written" (something like
> that) in OE, but I never put a check in there as I never use HTML
> settings.
You may have sent the reply using large fonts, but it looked the
same as all other messages. The only way my newsreader will display
a different font is for me to configure it to display all received
messages with that font. If doesn't understand or do anything with
embedded font commands that may have been sent by OE. If HTML is
included in a message, it'll show the HTML command (such as an
embedded "<FONT COLOR=BLUE>") but it is treated only as ASCII text,
not as a command.
>> Maybe a transmission glitch produced a garbled character or two?
>
> Your entire message was in large fonts, from the start of your message.
> Was my reply back to you in large fonts? It was sent that way on my end
> in reply to your large fonts.
No, your reply looked like all replies. My newsreader is not OE,
thank heaven.

>> I've seen that with HTML or output sent to a printer, where a single
>> messed up character can inadvertantly change the fonts of following
>> characters, and if the page is reloaded, or the output sent to the
>> printer a second time, the bogus fonts don't reappear. Only my
>> email program (Eudora) allows for different fonts to be used within
>> messages, and I'm not aware that it can be used for anything but
>> email.
>
> It must have been some glitch and appeared like it was on your end, and
> the reason I say that was because your message was the only one in the
> dozens of newsgroup messages I saw last night. Also I sent other
> messages last night and all were in my regular font. Oh well, I really
> don't know what happened, but this message of yours is back to normal.
>

I think the glitch was neither on my end (the Agent newsreader)
nor on your end (OE), but somewhere in between. The copy of my
message that Agent retrieved has no unusual characters in it, so the
message made it to my news server as it should have. The glitch
(garbled text) could have appeared either when it was being sent
from my news server to yours, or it could have appeared later, when
it was being sent from your news server to OE running on your
computer. I don't know what OE's capabilities are, but I could test
these two possibilities with Agent by deleting the body of the
message and re-retrieving it. If it came back again showing large
fonts (just a "thought experiment" here, since Agent doesn't do
fonts), I'd assume that the news server had the garbled copy of the
message. If it came back showing normal fonts, I'd assume that the
large fonts were due to a glitch while the newsreader was retrieving
the message the first time.
The fact that on your end none of the following messages had large
fonts only means that OE wasn't written by a totally incompetent
programmer that thought that font commands intended for one specific
message should apply to all following messages unless or until
cancelled by a later message's font command. In other words, even
if the glitch occurred on your end, you wouldn't expect all
succeeding messages to continue displaying large fonts.
