well there are smaller jumps then liquid nitrogen. Lets wait and see what can be done with water and compressor before you say you need liquid nitrogen. And dont give up on air yet, there are many options of air coolers out there to be tested. Ill wait tilll we see mroe overclocking reviews before making my decision, just becuase reviews taht dont usually cover heavy overclcoking did and didnt come up with big results, doesnt mean its a no go. Personally I wasnt expecting some big revoltion with the fx-53, Im waiting to see the 939 transition to see how the cg revision can really perform, or not perform. This piece is mearly to keep the compitition up against the p4ee , although i dont see the reason, there isnta huge demand for p4ee's. Its fine for what its sold at, the performance at stock speed is fine. Ill wait to see some more in depth overclocking reviews.
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Yeah, those visual c++ benchies r a wet dream. I wanna buy one just so I can have it run one of my quantum comp simulations.....in 64bit!
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SEX is like math. Add the bed, subtract the clothes, divide the legs, and hope you dont multiply
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I am sorry but this quote from the article's conclusion doesn't make sense to me. What does the FX-53 or Cool and Quiet have to do with security. And what does "built in overclocking" mean. How stable is the o/c. How 'bout running Prime95 with your o/c?
"The processor supports the AMD-backed Cool & Quiet to reduce dissipation and fan noise during idle or partial-load phases, and, together with the Service Pack 2 for WindowsXP, offers more security. Overclocking is built-in."
...patiently waiting for 10Ghz processors and immersible virtual reality.
"The processor supports the AMD-backed Cool & Quiet to reduce dissipation and fan noise during idle or partial-load phases, and, together with the Service Pack 2 for WindowsXP, offers more security. Overclocking is built-in."
...patiently waiting for 10Ghz processors and immersible virtual reality.
Cool and quiet is to do with noise and heat not security. Under low usage, the chip throttles back to stay cooler, and allow the fan to slow,so noise reduction.
For security they are talking about buffer overrun protection, and a few other goodies.
Built-in overclocking means the multipliers have been unlocked to aid ocers.
For security they are talking about buffer overrun protection, and a few other goodies.
Built-in overclocking means the multipliers have been unlocked to aid ocers.
>You are probably right that the FX chips wont oc all that
>well
Probably, even though I am pleasantly surprised the FX53 seems capable of 2.6 or more easily on stock cooling. Many people thought K8 would never reach that high on .13, I guess this somewhat proves 2.6 GHz should be more than possible for AMD if they would need to (like when they run into trouble with their 90nm process).
I always claimed 2.6 for K8 on 130nm ought to be more than possible considering the redesigned core, SOI and the fact K7 maxed out at 2.33 GHz (even though mobile 2500+ overclocks seem to indicate even faster would have been possible as well).
This is typically AMD, each time you think a core maxes out on a process, it magically seems to gain substantial additional headroom by the time the chip is being EOL-ed. Expect the last batches of 130nm hammers when 90nm ramps up to be very good overclockers, maybe unlike initial 90nm parts.
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>well
Probably, even though I am pleasantly surprised the FX53 seems capable of 2.6 or more easily on stock cooling. Many people thought K8 would never reach that high on .13, I guess this somewhat proves 2.6 GHz should be more than possible for AMD if they would need to (like when they run into trouble with their 90nm process).
I always claimed 2.6 for K8 on 130nm ought to be more than possible considering the redesigned core, SOI and the fact K7 maxed out at 2.33 GHz (even though mobile 2500+ overclocks seem to indicate even faster would have been possible as well).
This is typically AMD, each time you think a core maxes out on a process, it magically seems to gain substantial additional headroom by the time the chip is being EOL-ed. Expect the last batches of 130nm hammers when 90nm ramps up to be very good overclockers, maybe unlike initial 90nm parts.
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I'm thinking that a low power opteron could be coaxed to 3 gigs on air, so if there is a problem at IBM with the 90 nano, Amd should be able to scale the A64 and FX chips a bit more. If a new stepping were required, they may even be able to get to 3.4. That would be impressive.
Myself too 2.6GHz on a very large CPU on 0.13 it surprising and it come from Toms.Also FX53 look better on toms reviews that those bench at xbitlabs anandtech.
Do you know if that true that K8 90NM have a TPD of 105 watts.I make a quick look around benchmark it still found that AFX53 is about equal a P4EE
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Do you know if that true that K8 90NM have a TPD of 105 watts.I make a quick look around benchmark it still found that AFX53 is about equal a P4EE
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>I'm thinking that a low power opteron could be coaxed to 3
>gigs on air
If you talking about dry ice overclocks, then probably, some people have already achieved 3 GHz on a FX, but stock speed ? Very doubtfull...
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>gigs on air
If you talking about dry ice overclocks, then probably, some people have already achieved 3 GHz on a FX, but stock speed ? Very doubtfull...
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No, I'm talking about the new stepping, using those parts of the die that are best. Think about the mobile XP chips. That part of the die for xp that was reserved for mobile, is reserved for low power opterons in the K8s. Not only do the opterons use lower v to start, but have a larger overall chip size for better thermal dissapation.
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Prime95 is bullshit sometimes. I oc'ed this machine to 220fsb and it wasn't stable in primes world, but it was fine all around, then i went to 224 fsb and it was stable running prime for a day then i stopped it, but it couldn't do 3d apps.
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The way I saw it was in relation to its siblings, against the P4. You seem the AXPs and the A64s in the same bunch, fighting the P4s up there. I guess the way I saw it, sounded like they were getting pounded.
They did after all lose to all video benchmarks, and that's a pretty strong thing. It's weird that the P4 is still maintaining such lead. I guess either its SSE-2 is much better or its bandwidth is doing it great service. Then again the A64 FX also uses 6.4GB/sec and should as well have an even better overall usage of that bandwidth of its. (since 6.4GB/sec is really theoretical and prolly never is reached)
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They did after all lose to all video benchmarks, and that's a pretty strong thing. It's weird that the P4 is still maintaining such lead. I guess either its SSE-2 is much better or its bandwidth is doing it great service. Then again the A64 FX also uses 6.4GB/sec and should as well have an even better overall usage of that bandwidth of its. (since 6.4GB/sec is really theoretical and prolly never is reached)
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Hi Eden. Perhaps you can help me understand better about Intel winning video benchmarks. At Hardocp they have this <A HREF="http:// http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjAyLDI= " target="_new">http:// http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjAyLDI= </A> that says the amd does rather well at divx avi2wav. I have seen other progs where the amd does well in music decoding. Are these wrong, or are there some progs that are okay with the amd chips?
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Interesting results. The P4 still does better overall, but yeah, it seems the AMDs did very nicely in the benchmark you refered me to. Indeed there are always holes where one CPU can still rule. And this is no exception.
Now if only it was a consistent thing across the board. Makes you wonder what each program that encodes video uses for algorithms.
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Now if only it was a consistent thing across the board. Makes you wonder what each program that encodes video uses for algorithms.
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have seen other progs where the amd does well in music decoding. Are these wrong, or are there some progs that are okay with the amd chips?
The real question what programe are ok with P4 by default athlon is much faster.While P4 have more potential.
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The real question what programe are ok with P4 by default athlon is much faster.While P4 have more potential.
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thing is you can say same thing with Intel Presscott. Runs hot and dont overclock very well. But we are not in the 80s or 90s anymore. Chips are hotter. And in both cases. Why do you all want a heater Amd or intel. 200mhz is nothing.
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