G92 not a high end card?? how are we supposed to run crysis then...?

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iv been waiting and waiting for the g92 thinking it was going to be the 9800GTX which would warrant a new pc for myself but sadly i now do not know what to do.. do i just take the plunge and buy a Q6600 and dual 8800 GTX's to play crysis or do i wait another 8 months for the 9800GTX?? and not even bother with crysis? 'cries'

there is no way i can even play crysis on the lowest settings with my pc and i really need an upgrade but i dont want to get hardware that is what, over a year old now? that means that my system wont really last as long as it could have if i were to get it brand new.. so what by jove do i do?

and i was going to get a 26" $1000 LCD but now since i may be waiting for a new pc should i just hold off or what...?? my pc is i think 5 years old now with a upgraded graphics card BFG 6600 gt, 2 gig ram and a new psu and everything else is the same as it was 5 years ago.. its absolutely brutal and i cant stand using this piece of junk. Its served me well but i really want to get to vista 64 bit with a nice 26" monitor, SLI and quad core... but i dont want to waste money and get something so old when something new and great is coming out in a few months time.

*also as for running crysis we can see it lagging a noticeable amount on live demos and they are probably running with the best stuff they can get their hands on, yet it still lags so how on earth are blokes like you and me supposed to run max without next gen stuff like the 9800 etc?
 
First, I'm sure the drivers for the game haven't been perfected. Second, the game is probably still getting tweaks done to it, so it can be played by the lightest setup possible (more people will want to buy, if there system meets minimum requirements). Thirdly, I'd probably wait for the x38 intel chipped mobo's to come out, so you can have the latest mobo's available (not sure if it's going to be any better than the p35's, but might slightly be). Lastly, I think if I could buy a Q6600 and dual 8800 GTX's and a $1000 LCD, I would probably do it!!!!! I wouldn't wait for........whatever to come out whenever THEY (nVidia) deem to release it!. Who knows, maybe AMD/ATI will pull their heads outta their A**ES and bring something better out before nVidia does (hopes to see this). For whatever that is worth to ya.

My 2cp's
 
Whining gets you nowhere.....

The g82 is to be less powerful than the current 8800 series.

Grab the e6750 and MB sale on Fry's for $238 and add the 8800 GTX for ~$500, and pickup the dell 24" for ~$500, and game happily into the future.
 
No the Q6600s are not being phased out, it's only the QX6700 that's being phased out.
As to the TC... Come on! You don't think a Q6600 and dual 8800 GTXs would be up for the task of running Crysis more than decently?! Seriously, I'm pretty sure you'll get pretty good framerates running it at high if not max. Besides that's what the developers are using to run the game (or was it a single gtx?), so I wouldn't worry about that.
If however you prefer to wait, well then you can do that as well, but there will always be sth new around the corner.
BTW, I think you're talking about the G82 not the G92. G92 might be a new line of cards.. who knows? Only time will tell.
 
Man I hate it when people come on with thousands of dollars asking if they should blow it or not while us poor to average people wait to save up enough just to buy some decent hardware. Just buy it if you want it otherwise wait. I'm gonna be playing crysis on an x1950 pro with 2Gb RAM and an A64 3700 SINGLE CORE, and you're worried about dual 8800GTXs and a Q6600!
 
One game website asked the crytek team what specs the computer that crysis was running they said 8800GTX with nearly all the settings turned up with dx10. the 8700 will come in the next few months then the 9800gtx/s. If you want to play crysis on full settings i suggest you SLi to 8800gtx's/ultra or 2900xt crossfire.
you tell em randomizer!
 
I have been contemplating this whole thing too. I have a 5 y/o computer with a 6800 AGP card in it. I plan to build a new computer in November during black friday. I will get a 22" or 24" monitor, the x38 chipset on prolly an Asus mobo, depending on the prices of the CPUs I will either get a q6600 or I will get a cheap temp proc until the 45 nm tech fully comes out and drops in price (about a year or two later). I will get the best bang for the buck graphics card; leaning towards the cheap end, so a 7900 GS, or maybe something used. Then in a year or two I will get the 9800 GTS/GTX which will be PCIe 2.0 compliant.

For you I would recommend only a 24" screen since they are half the price, or if you want larger get a 32" HDTV which are in the $1k ball park, mind you, you would have to be sure to get 1080P with the 1920x1080 max res to have it look nice. as for the cards, just get one 8800 GTX, and then save the other $500 to pay towards the 9800 GTX when it comes out.
 
Nvidia usually calls the high end parts either X0 or X1. At least that is what I remember seeing in the past. 7800GTX was G70, and the 7900 was G71. All the other variant were the value line. But who the hell really knows. The way they codename the gpu's can make things confusing. You are best off doing whatever you need to do today. I don't think it's really that big of a deal though. I think the game will still be around when they release the next high end card. Really though, it's my opinion that the high end cards have the least bang for the buck but the largest effect on E-Penile enlargement.
 
if you are waiting for crysis, wait for crysis, then build with whatever is best at that time, if you want my opinion then I expect dual 8800 gtx's will run crysis on max very smoothly, but thats only what I expect
 
Well just wait to see how everything unfolds...There is still no official word from nvidia about what it will be. Even though most articles are saying it's going to be midranged it's best to wait to hear form nvidia since they have not confirmed any of the articles...

Chances are from all the articles popping up it might be true but it might not be also. Who knows..

Nvidia does have 2 gpu's in the works though..a g92 and a g98...we may just end up getting a high end and a mid range...we never know since they haven't said a word. Hope for the best...plan for the worst...could be true that neither are high end....But officially there is no word yet...it's all just speculation...Even though the inquirer has been reporting a lot about it...it is in fact the inquirer and they are wrong at times...

But overall no one knows for sure. We'll just have to wait and see. But considering that an interview with one of the crysis staff (I believe it was the project leader...can't remember the name or role of the person for certain) stated that the showfloor demo was running with a 8800 GTX and not on the highest...but high settings. He also stated it was holding up well "most of the time"...I've been trying to hunt that damn interview down but I forgot which gaming network covered it....Although I do remember reading that part vividly and it is accurate.

I'm honestly expecting a high end and main stream card around november...Yes nvidia might have not had that much competition for the highend (although I do think the 2900XT has matured very nicely)...I don't believe they wouldn't release a new high end card after a year with the 8800 GTX at the top...Afterall..if you're already ahead why not slam the door even tighter?...They really do owe a new highend for the market..

But then again we have to wait and see. No one knows for sure what's going to happen yet.
 
randomizer did you hear nothing i said? Though i now have money to spend you do not know how i got the money or under what conditions i went to get it.
I have an absolute **** computer if you didnt notice which means i dont have money to just blow on buying a new pc every year. iv saved up and this will kill me as it is. I still need to replace my roof which im sure is about to spring a leak.. and thats extremely expensive..

if you would like to see full specs of my pc here they are randomizer

2.4 ghz p4
asus p4s8x
BFG 6600 GT OC (used to have geforce ti series but needed upgrade for BF2)
2 gig of no name brand ram really crappy i have two 512 sticks and one 1 gig stick. (upgraded from 512 for BF2)
80 gig hard drive
420 watt ocz psu (upgraded for BF2)

now you complain about me blowing money>?? take a look at my specs and say that i dont need a new computer.. you have a x1950, 2 gig ram (most certainly better than mine) and a better cpu.
you have spent money on a new pc what a year ago? what if last year i went up to you and yelled at you for upgrading to a x1950 and screaming about how its overkill and how i have a totally **** pc that cant run any new games. What would you say to that?? "ooo **** im sorry dude i didnt realize your situation im not going to upgrade.., tell me when your ready and we can upgrade together"


*btw kamrooz thanks for that it was extremely helpful. Its always nice to get a calm composed and thoughtful response which brings logic and reasoning and calm to the unnecessary panic im in :)
 
I'll just keep my mouth shut and let you guys duke it out but I feel your pain maverick. I'm on a 3.2 prescott with a x700 pro. still a better rig then yours but considering I use this machine for video editing, video special effects, and 3d modeling...it's a dreadful machine...I had a 3.0 northwood and a 9800 pro but I had to swap out my mobo when it died so I nabbed a 3.2 prescott, x700, and a asus pcie board in the process. But yea.....I feel your pain. I've been saving up my cash to nab myself a refurbished grade A sony FW900 monitor with a enthusiast rig that will satisfy my gaming urges as well as deliver top notch editing/modeling performance...The thought about getting hardware that is already a year old in the GFX department is really uneasy...I might just have to wait longer and bare with this rig..or nab a x1950pro or XT for temp till the next big bad thing comes out...
 
Sorry if I offended you dude, I just hate these types of threads where people have all this money to spend when they could seriously buy something more worthwhile. Like your roof for example. And FYI I did upgrade this year, to my current rig using 2nd hand parts mostly, and it also killed me as I have no money at all to spend on anything at the moment. To be honest although my PC appears good it is far from it, I get very bad framerates in alot of games on low-mid settings and I don't know why. Still why did you upgrade your ti? It was only the best card ever made :sol: I loved my ti4400, OCing monster and got so hot I burned my hands on it.

Now to properly contribute to the thread, I'd say go for the Q6600 as it will rock Crysis, but for the cards, that's kinda up to you whether you want to buy now or not. Dual 8800GTX's will run real awesome, but how will a single 9800GTX compare? It will almost definitely be cheaper, and possibly better than SLIed 8800s, but without benchies, we won't know.
 
not to worry m8, i overreacted sorry.

but yes the 9800 GTX will be much cheaper than sli 8800GTXs and most probably faster because of the trends we have seen in the past. But it will be a mute point if i must wait 8 months for the 9800 GTX : P

the grass is always greener over the hill i suppose. But i think it would be wise to wait till November/December and then reevaluate.

As for the Crysis release date i surely hope the 16th of November is just EA being EA. I really hope Crytek will go with the "when its done its done" rather than omfgwtfdowedofucknshsaiEAbeshitahhhh we have to release tomorrow!
 
Right, jsut get me one thing straight, WHY wont it be able to run with all eye candy on current graphics cards?

I haven't seen anything that sais they does so if someone has a link?

All I know is that these cards kick anything on DX9 and will likely run an optimized DX10 Crisis on max.

Until the game is released and PROPER drivers are made Im not believing any different.

Unless someone has proof?
 
Do you have proof that it will run great? No. So either way it doesn't matter as there is no evidence to support either argument.

@Maverick7: The 8700 coming in november may drop the prices a bit so it's at least worth waiting till then to see how this new card performs. As for EA, well, go figure :kaola:
 
I think it's pretty concrete that the G92 is a mid-range part. A lot of specs have been released, more than what you would expect from a rumor. Also, I think some vendors are quoting 9500 marks in 3DMark06 (though how a card having the reported specs can get that, I don't know).

I don't think that you should be at all worried about Crysis, not with the rig you are building. All the times Crysis has been displayed, it has been older builds. Lot of the time, it's the E3 07 Alpha build. And even that has been running pretty well on single 8800GTS (sometimes GTX) at high settings (not max, no resolution given either), except freezes during explosions, which can be attributed to non-optimized code.

DX10 has a lot of problems because of immature drivers, but Crytek said that they are working closely with NVidia and should have good drivers within 2 weeks (from date of the interview, which should put it right about now).

This is what Cevat Yerli, CEO Crytek, said a few days ago:
http://www.incrysis.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=456

8800GTS for high settings at 1280x1024 is really impressive, given how awesome Crysis looks.

If you are still not convinced, wait for the upcoming demo. September 25th... 2 weeks to go.
 


I already posted that link ^^ 😀
 
^^ That link isn't really proof of anything. The system requirements have NOT been released. It just speculation based on what has been reported, and the machines Crysis has been seen running on. Since a lot of the details about the settings haven't even been released, it's not accurate. For example, setting Crysis to the top quality preset may not max out all quality sliders a la Oblivion. Also, the name of the MAX quality preset isn't even known (called Ultra quality for the time being, but mod teams with access to current builds say that it's something else).

Still, what Cevat Yerli said about the 8800GTS should be considered pretty reliable. See my previous post of details.
 
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