Question Games that build Shaders always crash instantly when getting to the Shader building.

[DireAct]

Hello I'm looking for some help on why every game that needs to build shaders keeps crashing. It will tell me I do not have enough Virtual Memory Allocated on most of them, some games wont even give an error and just crash/disappear instantly.

My computer:
Windows 11
Gigabyte z790 aurus elite AX Motherboard
32g of DDR5 ram
4070 TI 12g (Recently upgraded from 2080 TI)
WD 850x Black SSD m.2 4TB with an older 750 WD black 1TB as more storage OS is on the 850x
i9-13900k processor
I upgraded my power supply from 750 watt to 850 watt for the 4070 TI (I'm a beginner to building computers so maybe I did the wiring wrong?)

Games that do not need to build shaders run completely fine.

What I have tried: Reinstalling Windows 11 from partial reset even to completely wiping everything and installing completely new windows 11, didn't change anything

Changing pagefile size from windows decides to 20000 for both Max and Minimum, didn't change anything.

Verifying files through steam/Gog, didn't change anything.

Changing settings through Geforce Experience to more performance, didn't change anything.

Tried swapping out GPU from my 4070 TI back to my 2080 TI, still didn't change anything.

Everything that I can think of is up to date, GPU latest driver, windows is fully updated, BIOS is on the latest version the Gigabyte website has, firmware on WD 750/850x updated. Nothing changed.

Full Story: About 4 months back I had a Alienware Threadripper R6. As I got more into PC gaming I realized that the threadripper was not that great of a processor, it was okay for gaming but was holding my new 2080 TI back (Before the 30's were even around) so I decided recently to buy components to a full computer and use a new case (corsair 4000D mid size case) So I bought a z790 Gigabyte Aurus elite AX Motherboard with 2 16g DDR5 ram, a i9-13900k processor. I bought the WD 750 m.2 back when I had my Alienware as that motherboard had an m.2 slot so I just used that in my new Aurus Elite AX.

I went to Canada Computers to have it all built, as I didn't trust myself as a beginner to this space. When I got my PC everything worked fine, all games booted up no problem and could even handle high settings with low-medium ray tracing. After about a month I decided to get more storage and just fully upgrade to the WD 850x m.2, here is where only one game was crashing that needed to build shaders (Lies of P Demo) everything else was still running just fine.

About a week ago I decided to upgrade to a 4070 TI, I upgraded my Power supply along with it from a 750 watt to an 850 watt and I installed this myself (I've installed GPU's before so I thought it was fine, but this was my first time installing a Power Supply.) I installed it and started up the PC, tried some games that were higher end that needed shaders to be built, but ended up with "Not enough Virtual Memory Allocated" (Hogwarts Legacy) I thought it was just Hogwarts Legacy and Lies of P Demo, didn't think of trying other games until today, where Dead Space Remake/Borderlands 3 and anything else that needs to build shaders will instantly crash, with most giving an error of "Not enough Virtual Memory trying to allocate."

So far everything I have tried has not fixed anything. The only things I can think of is maybe it's windows 11 (But everything was working fine after Canada Computers built the PC with Windows 11 installed) but I am highly doubtful. The other solution is that I messed up on installing the Power Supply. Not entirely sure and I'm very close to just bringing it to Canada Computers and have them check it out for a couple days to a week.

So before I go down that route of having no PC for a while, does anyone else have any solutions I could try?


EDIT: So I thought it was just shaders, but apparently most of my games do not load passed the initial loading screen when the game pops up, most games will go to 100% CPU usage when loading up, the only fix for some of the video games is to use windows 8 in compatibility mode.


2nd EDIT: I am thinking it might be Windows 11 that is the problem, I can play most of my games when I use compatibility mode windows 8 on them. Other than Dead Space Remake which crashes instantly when trying to launch the game even in compatibility mode. If not Windows 11 maybe it’s temp, most of my temps sit around 40- 60c when playing a game consistently, but when the game loads it’s goes to around 90-100c then goes down to 60c when the game is playing

 

[Ralston18]

How full are the disk drives?

How is the virtual memory currently configured?

 

[kerberos_20]

shaders are compiled by GPU driver
it is possible that game has included dxcompiler which is not compatible with your windows build/driver version

and it is also possible that its tryin to compile on your intel iGPU?

 

[DireAct]

How full are the disk drives?

How is the virtual memory currently configured?

The 850x is currently 1.8 TB's out of 4TB, the 750 is empty. I'm not sure about the virtual memory, most likely at a default option I never messed with it as I'm not sure where it's at.

 

[DireAct]

shaders are compiled by GPU driver
it is possible that game has included dxcompiler which is not compatible with your windows build/driver version

and it is also possible that its tryin to compile on your intel iGPU?

I'm not entirely sure if it is, I think it's on my 4070ti but not sure how to make that a guarantee. I also see CPU usage is 100% when it's trying to load the games but once loading is done (if it makes it passed that.) my 4070ti goes to around 90% and CPU drops to 20 ish. Wondering if the 100% usage on the CPU when loading is whats crashing the games?

 

[thestryker]

Shader compilation should usually max out the CPU so this isn't inherently a problem.

What CPU cooler do you have?

What is the exact error you're seeing?

 

[DireAct]

Shader compilation should usually max out the CPU so this isn't inherently a problem.

What CPU cooler do you have?

What is the exact error you're seeing?

I just have a regular water cooling onto my cpu. My temps when gaming for my CPU is around 90-100c even at times on the Load but packaging is always at 3-5c I use iCue from Corsair to keep track of the temps.

The error doesn’t give me any code or title it just states that “Out of Video Memory trying to allocate a texture! Make sure your video card has the minimum required memory, try lowering resolution and/or closing other applications that are running. Exiting…”

I’ve used GeForce Experience to lower everything since I can’t even make it to the settings and it’ll still state this error on low settings at 3440x1440.

 

[thestryker]

Those CPU temps seem high for gaming temps, but I don't think that's likely the source of your issues. It'd be worth looking into just the same because you should only be seeing those temps under full CPU load.

Do you have plenty of free storage space?

 

[DireAct]

I just have a regular water cooling onto my cpu. My temps when gaming for my CPU is around 90-100c even at times on the Load but packaging is always at 3-5c I use iCue from Corsair to keep track of the temps.

The error doesn’t give me any code or title it just states that “Out of Video Memory trying to allocate a texture! Make sure your video card has the minimum required memory, try lowering resolution and/or closing other applications that are running. Exiting…”

I’ve used GeForce Experience to lower everything since I can’t even make it to the settings and it’ll still state this error on low settings at 3440x1440.

Those CPU temps seem high for gaming temps, but I don't think that's likely the source of your issues. It'd be worth looking into just the same because you should only be seeing those temps under full CPU load.

Do you have plenty of free storage space?

Some games seem to reboot my PC (Dead Space Remake and Monster Hunter Rising) But all others will be fine switching to compatibility mode, some run completely fine without any fix. I'm thinking of installing windows 10 on my older 750 SSD to see if that fixes everything.