GameStop: 250,000 Customers Interested in Xbox One

[redeemer]

they basicly killed the used market, and without the used market, there is little to no reason for the new games to ever come down in price

pc competes with piracy
consoles compete with used sales

what happens when there is no competition...

with that said... they are both useing x86 platforms... for the exclusives i hope the 0ne gets an emulater fast so i can still buy the games i want and play them, as i have NO intrest at all in owning that system...

that said

ps4 1.89 tflops
one 1.2 tflops.

take out 1-200gflops for the cpu, and you are left with

one - 1tflop
ps4 - 1.69

so the ps4 is about 69% more powerful than the one.

here is hopeing the pc becomes lead platform and stuff is downscaled to ps4 or the one, and for god sake if a console is lead please let it be the ps4

The good old teraflop argument doesn't mean jack the PS3 was also put out more tflops over the Xbox 360 and the better looking games never really materialized. That being said the Xbox 360 being less powerful had excellent games, better services and online experience. Apparently the Xbox One can reach into cloud to gain even more performance (300,000) servers.

yea it didnt help that even now the ps3 is still said to push 3 tflops.

HOWEVER
and this is a VERY big however

amd is handling the gpu and the cpu of each console.
that makes the flops something that you can easily compare and actually have a meaningful number from.

if i remember the numbers correctly, the ps4 has the equivalent of a 7850 or 7870 and the one will have the equivalent of a 7750 or 7770

now, the ps3 having better graphics... it does, hands down, when the game is ps3 exclusive, and when the game is ps3 first.
sadly most games lead on the 360 and got a crappy port to the ps3, i have a fairly decent understanding of the architecture, i know what it was a pain to program for, and because it lacked on the gpu side, some developers tried to shift the weight over to the cpu with didn't help much.

however this time around, ps4 learned from its mistakes, and with the horrible press the one is getting, devs may lead on the ps4 over the one, ideally they would lead on the pc but thats a pipe dream, and with publishers forcing developers to work under the assumption that users only have 2gb of ram... yea... id rather it be on a console with 8gb and ported to pc rather than hands tied on the pc.

Exclusive games always have better graphics this is same with either console, MS will still have the better Dev tools like always and XBOX is where developers make the most money. So MS will not be losing devs to the PS4, online and cloud services are also superior on the Xbox. These reason are why MS has made tons more money than Sony!

 

[bigshootr8]

And while I agree with that Redeemer the bad press that M$ has received with there new console will hurt them I believe at least with this console iteration. They won't be losing money to dev's but they will be losing money on game sales and unit sales that is for sure.

 

[irish_adam]

wow the PS fans are coming out of the woodwork already?

We have no idea which console is more powerful till at least E3 and probably not until they are both released. I remember the bullshit PS fans kept spouting about the cell processor being the most powerfull thing on the planet and yet when they analysed screen shots there was no difference, some review sites even edged towards the xbox at the start. Saying that one or another is more powerful or will be better at this point is pure fanboyism as no one really knows.

Also for those citing numbers of interest for the playstation, thats been up for pre-order for like a month where as the xbox was only officially announced a few days ago.

also you say they are putting media first and gaming second but, they already admitted that more people are using their 360 to view media while connected instead of games. Hardcore gamers are a slim majority, if they aimed a console at just them they would lose hands down. You can keeping slating one console or another but at the end of the day until we can get our hands on both its all speculation

that said i wont be getting either as i just spent £900 on my PC so that i wont have to buy a console at the end of this year, i just dont like people spouting facts when they are just opinion or speculation

You're an idiot. The PS3 vs Xbox 360 was a COMPLETELY different battle. The PS3 was more powerful (as is the case with the ps4), but it was very cumbersome and tough to code/optimize for (not the case with the ps4 as it uses an x86 architecture).

yeah your right i'm the idiot for not saying one is better over the other before they have even been released, before we have seen any comparable screen shots. The systems maybe produced by AMD but both chips contain technology from either sony or microsoft. The drivers alone make a huge difference, let alone the developer tools created by both sides (something that Microsoft is very good at)

I'm holding off judgement until we know ALL the facts. So yeah if that makes me an idiot then so be it

P.S. for all those moaning about the DRM in the xbox etc. at least they are being honest where as sony has told you nothing. I think all you people thinking that the PS4 wont be DRM'd to the eyeballs as well then your fooling yourself (if they dont then the likes of EA and ubisoft wont develop games for them) Also there is no proof that the xbox requires an always online connection, they have in fact denied it.

 

[redeemer]

And while I agree with that Redeemer the bad press that M$ has received with there new console will hurt them I believe at least with this console iteration. They won't be losing money to dev's but they will be losing money on game sales and unit sales that is for sure.

Your right they may lose sales, but most do not care about these current privacy issues all they know is that there is a new Xbox and they will buy it. 8.4 Million tuned into the Xbox One reveal, Sony has been very quiet about these exact issue and that's not comforting.

 

[bigshootr8]

yea stupid ill informed buyers honestly tsk tsk! the only thing that excites me about these new consoles is better pc ports honestly bring on the better graphics.

 

[alidan]

they basicly killed the used market, and without the used market, there is little to no reason for the new games to ever come down in price

pc competes with piracy
consoles compete with used sales

what happens when there is no competition...

with that said... they are both useing x86 platforms... for the exclusives i hope the 0ne gets an emulater fast so i can still buy the games i want and play them, as i have NO intrest at all in owning that system...

that said

ps4 1.89 tflops
one 1.2 tflops.

take out 1-200gflops for the cpu, and you are left with

one - 1tflop
ps4 - 1.69

so the ps4 is about 69% more powerful than the one.

here is hopeing the pc becomes lead platform and stuff is downscaled to ps4 or the one, and for god sake if a console is lead please let it be the ps4

The good old teraflop argument doesn't mean jack the PS3 was also put out more tflops over the Xbox 360 and the better looking games never really materialized. That being said the Xbox 360 being less powerful had excellent games, better services and online experience. Apparently the Xbox One can reach into cloud to gain even more performance (300,000) servers.

yea it didnt help that even now the ps3 is still said to push 3 tflops.

HOWEVER
and this is a VERY big however

amd is handling the gpu and the cpu of each console.
that makes the flops something that you can easily compare and actually have a meaningful number from.

if i remember the numbers correctly, the ps4 has the equivalent of a 7850 or 7870 and the one will have the equivalent of a 7750 or 7770

now, the ps3 having better graphics... it does, hands down, when the game is ps3 exclusive, and when the game is ps3 first.
sadly most games lead on the 360 and got a crappy port to the ps3, i have a fairly decent understanding of the architecture, i know what it was a pain to program for, and because it lacked on the gpu side, some developers tried to shift the weight over to the cpu with didn't help much.

however this time around, ps4 learned from its mistakes, and with the horrible press the one is getting, devs may lead on the ps4 over the one, ideally they would lead on the pc but thats a pipe dream, and with publishers forcing developers to work under the assumption that users only have 2gb of ram... yea... id rather it be on a console with 8gb and ported to pc rather than hands tied on the pc.

Exclusive games always have better graphics this is same with either console, MS will still have the better Dev tools like always and XBOX is where developers make the most money. So MS will not be losing devs to the PS4, online and cloud services are also superior on the Xbox. These reason are why MS has made tons more money than Sony!

the reason the 360 got the lead system was install base initially, and it had a year head start.
this time, 2 completely new architectures
both x86
i can in all honesty see the pc being the lead platform with ports to the consoles, possibly with just settings turned down for the ps4 and one.

with the bad press ms is getting, and its horrible press, i can see sales being hampered.
but really what will determine the lead system will be the innital volume the systems come out in.

if the ps4 has more it will sell out just like the one will...
that larger install will be the factor...

and with the one being significantly weaker, if the ps4 takes lead, it will continue to gain because people will see a difference.
and lets also assume the one gets lead and they make no adjustments on the ps4 to make that look better, than the ps4 will play noteably better than the one.

the more i think of it the more screwed i see the one being... its completely outclassed hardware wise on a consoles generation that is largely multiplatform...

now online you mention...
the 360 and the ps3 are equally crap...

however the ps3 is free,
the 360 costs money but has a more uniform system because everyone was given a headset, its really the place the ps3 lacked the most...

the only time the ps3 was worse than the 360 is when the dev completely batched the ps3 releases... and there were a few.