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They have been selling opened games for a long time and saying they were "new". They do this supposedly so you can't shoplift the game by taking the box. This is nothing new with them.
Think the ideas varies, To most parts on ideas of Gamestop, for price issues, to sell lower would basically be in ideas of pawn shops. Which is probably fine, but ideas of interest usually are in that of little money either way.
When you might be taking something back 2 days after it was released for whatever reason, not the release of interest, or no manual, maybe defective, interests of values probably change some for some reason.
But as to say though that they have rights to do that is anyones guess though. K, you say they are buying outright from whoever that sells them. Directly from the company and the like. Say they would have a certain means of license of resell. Like even for like packaging bundles. Like say stores of these interests do this but not cared for, cause companies get hit up to make older releases again sometimes. Nothing changes from whats sold like here in this issue.
This one is say that well, ya know, Gamestop has taken products of their sell, taken less from that of it , which normally would be included, bundled or not. Then took completely off. taking completely off probably is fine. They don't have to sale anything. But the box probably does say included with to a point. Used to be say printed on boxes cause stickers are easy to take off. And opened packages usually aren't good of course but to say that everything is ok or right it anyones guess.
Here though seems to just be an interest of own concern of own interest.
For the Live idea though is nice, but its still placed within what is that of absence of multiplayer for where there is and isn't, but still kinda is though too.
Gamestop to say well, we are taking actions within what is say bought products for the place of interest is only with what probably agreements are made for their purchase of products. They could probably not sale anything the buy all day long. But they probably wouldn't get sold to maybe after awhile on some ideas.
Gamestop to have a service like Live might be nice since not everyone has Live or uses it to say. But of it though to say it is ok to take the say voucher or coupon off is anyones guess. But maybe not though.
You'd say intially the PC version wouldn't need the Live voucher anyways. But would be nice on ideas of newer releases with ideas of Live, but Live is a conflicting service, I recall correctly, first Xboxes don't work with Live anymore.
For the issue of course probably doesn't have much a pretain at times given whats in topic. But still to say that is was ok is probably very subjective and perspective. I'd say no, thats what they either got leased and bought, right, and then changed for a lesser. Cause even against bundles, you still are not getting intial release to a point. Cause Bundles vary of course but do along the lines in which they are.
But again is based on that within what is bought isn't "bundled". But this i think would be very variant for the topic. Cause even though to say companies are finding say reductions within whats in releases where possible. They still sale Collectors editions, Limited editiions, Game of the Years, Revised or Remakes, Regular releases, This would be saying on ideas of that for what Regular release and like Deluxe releases would be. But of it though would say a regular release for the PC would be without. And for it the most to say as a bonus is probably just an interest for the idea of online access and usage. Cause PCs don't come with Live. And most games don't require it to have a need for it. Why is anyones guess but still.
On sacks of saying to work with to get online, Live would be there for Xbox. For PC might be as useful as it is on Xbox. But still probably not that as much for what that would be.
Would be that to use with what is within purchase on an included interest of sale for the release. They probably don't have to be used if they don't want to be used.
Some release comes with those offers cause of ideas of ads if i remember right. For the interest is lack with purchase. With intial interest inclined for it.
Otherwise, again incling interest is based within interest of interest for or fomr an interest or interest.
I can understand the idea of no use of what is there, but idea of interest for it or not. But for an incline of place of it for what it is there though to take off for or away of intial interest without place of intial interest to do so. Might be very subjective and perspective and aid the increas(ed)ingly place of what would be "product" recalls.
Which does happen of course but still of it though, does make wonder.
On ideas of interests though of many, there is probably only a few that would say otherwise. But even then of those all would need apply.
And of it to say taking off shelf was an option of choice. Yes? As with all options say before hand too. But still. The option of intial product without change was an option. Yes? Least here is some reasoning though for any rather true or not.
When you might be taking something back 2 days after it was released for whatever reason, not the release of interest, or no manual, maybe defective, interests of values probably change some for some reason.
But as to say though that they have rights to do that is anyones guess though. K, you say they are buying outright from whoever that sells them. Directly from the company and the like. Say they would have a certain means of license of resell. Like even for like packaging bundles. Like say stores of these interests do this but not cared for, cause companies get hit up to make older releases again sometimes. Nothing changes from whats sold like here in this issue.
This one is say that well, ya know, Gamestop has taken products of their sell, taken less from that of it , which normally would be included, bundled or not. Then took completely off. taking completely off probably is fine. They don't have to sale anything. But the box probably does say included with to a point. Used to be say printed on boxes cause stickers are easy to take off. And opened packages usually aren't good of course but to say that everything is ok or right it anyones guess.
Here though seems to just be an interest of own concern of own interest.
For the Live idea though is nice, but its still placed within what is that of absence of multiplayer for where there is and isn't, but still kinda is though too.
Gamestop to say well, we are taking actions within what is say bought products for the place of interest is only with what probably agreements are made for their purchase of products. They could probably not sale anything the buy all day long. But they probably wouldn't get sold to maybe after awhile on some ideas.
Gamestop to have a service like Live might be nice since not everyone has Live or uses it to say. But of it though to say it is ok to take the say voucher or coupon off is anyones guess. But maybe not though.
You'd say intially the PC version wouldn't need the Live voucher anyways. But would be nice on ideas of newer releases with ideas of Live, but Live is a conflicting service, I recall correctly, first Xboxes don't work with Live anymore.
For the issue of course probably doesn't have much a pretain at times given whats in topic. But still to say that is was ok is probably very subjective and perspective. I'd say no, thats what they either got leased and bought, right, and then changed for a lesser. Cause even against bundles, you still are not getting intial release to a point. Cause Bundles vary of course but do along the lines in which they are.
But again is based on that within what is bought isn't "bundled". But this i think would be very variant for the topic. Cause even though to say companies are finding say reductions within whats in releases where possible. They still sale Collectors editions, Limited editiions, Game of the Years, Revised or Remakes, Regular releases, This would be saying on ideas of that for what Regular release and like Deluxe releases would be. But of it though would say a regular release for the PC would be without. And for it the most to say as a bonus is probably just an interest for the idea of online access and usage. Cause PCs don't come with Live. And most games don't require it to have a need for it. Why is anyones guess but still.
On sacks of saying to work with to get online, Live would be there for Xbox. For PC might be as useful as it is on Xbox. But still probably not that as much for what that would be.
Would be that to use with what is within purchase on an included interest of sale for the release. They probably don't have to be used if they don't want to be used.
Some release comes with those offers cause of ideas of ads if i remember right. For the interest is lack with purchase. With intial interest inclined for it.
Otherwise, again incling interest is based within interest of interest for or fomr an interest or interest.
I can understand the idea of no use of what is there, but idea of interest for it or not. But for an incline of place of it for what it is there though to take off for or away of intial interest without place of intial interest to do so. Might be very subjective and perspective and aid the increas(ed)ingly place of what would be "product" recalls.
Which does happen of course but still of it though, does make wonder.
On ideas of interests though of many, there is probably only a few that would say otherwise. But even then of those all would need apply.
And of it to say taking off shelf was an option of choice. Yes? As with all options say before hand too. But still. The option of intial product without change was an option. Yes? Least here is some reasoning though for any rather true or not.
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We can all agree that software with the shrink wrap broken means you cant return software. Does this mean the item is no longer new? In the eyes of most retailers the software would no longer be new. I don't think software with broken shrink wrap and an item removed could possibly constitutes new. If the games was sold as new GameStop better have a recall fast or expect a class action lawsuit. I wouldn't be surprised if the better business bureau comes knocking at GameStops door.
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[citation][nom]lunyone[/nom]I won't be buying from Gamestop anytime soon or even ever!! This is just wrong! Even their "can't return opened packages" crap that they used to pull was one thing, but this is just crap![/citation]
Stores won't give you credit for open software. There are too many people buying software then copying it and then returning the software.
Stores won't give you credit for open software. There are too many people buying software then copying it and then returning the software.
to answer the posters who mentioned steam being a requirement to activate some games. this IS actually one of them. and thank square enix for that, not only can i access it along with my other steam games they also fully integrate deus ex: HR and they allow you to have it as a fully functioning product through steam. so if you ever lose your physical disc, fear not they got you covered. and they also threw in some pre-order goddies with an unlock code in the box. very good purchase overall! ea/activision take notes!
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[citation][nom]sieged[/nom]IndignantSkeptic :this is blatant theft by GameStop against their customers; robbing them of something they paid for and expected to get. would you complain if best buy started removing the trial versions of Norton from their HP pcs before sale too?Best Buy can remove all of their Bloatware and it would make 90% of us happy.[/citation]
1 - That is a completely different argument, and I assume you are completely aware of the differences.
2 - BBGS's "Advanced Configuration" or whatever they are calling it now is an opt-into program that clients must pay for, and are made fully aware of prior to agreeing to (via contract/receipt).
1 - That is a completely different argument, and I assume you are completely aware of the differences.
2 - BBGS's "Advanced Configuration" or whatever they are calling it now is an opt-into program that clients must pay for, and are made fully aware of prior to agreeing to (via contract/receipt).
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Here is an easy comparison:
Buy four copies of the same game title for the same platform for the same price:
BestBuy, Fry's, Target, GameStop... (examples)
It is the PC version of this game...
Put them all on the same table together. Unopened. Unregistered. You un-bagged each of them with receipt and placed them the the table in NEW condition.
Swap the GameStop version with **ANY** of the others and then try to return to the retailer (as unopened) for a refund. If this had been BestBuy vs. Target vs. Fry's I will bet that they will be identical in their shrink-wrap. Unopened and unmodified, EULA unaccepted. The return will be accepted.
I will predict problems with the GameStop copy, as is has been "gutted".
Buy four copies of the same game title for the same platform for the same price:
BestBuy, Fry's, Target, GameStop... (examples)
It is the PC version of this game...
Put them all on the same table together. Unopened. Unregistered. You un-bagged each of them with receipt and placed them the the table in NEW condition.
Swap the GameStop version with **ANY** of the others and then try to return to the retailer (as unopened) for a refund. If this had been BestBuy vs. Target vs. Fry's I will bet that they will be identical in their shrink-wrap. Unopened and unmodified, EULA unaccepted. The return will be accepted.
I will predict problems with the GameStop copy, as is has been "gutted".
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I walked into GameStop with my wife a couple years ago to purchase one of the Wii Lego games (SW or Indiana Jones, or something). My wife was not aware of the history with this retailer at the time (as I was).
The store had several people in there, being a mall setting, this is normal.
My wife decided to select a "new" game for purchase...
My suspicions were re-confirmed when the clerk behind the counter pulled a disc-in-sleeve from below and went to place it in a jewel case.
I asked what he was doing and whether or not we were being sold a new or used copy. They guy, probably late-teens, said it was new. I asked where the OEM celophane wrap was, to which he responded with their "gutting" procedure. I expected that.
I told him that I would be glad to buy a sealed copy. He told me the usual "this is a new copy" crap that they are instructed to tell customers.
I raised my voice, in stating that it was illegal. Intentionally becoming a jerk and calling attention to this. I was able to get the attention of a couple other potential customers, who also left the store.
I'm thinking "first sales" doctrine vs. a company like autodesk who overtly sells their licenses as non-transferrable.
My real goal was to call attention to people in the store on what the store is doing, then leave.
Although, I still wonder: Why the HELL is GameStop still allowed to exist as a business if the break the seals on "new" products prior to selling them? You would never see Bestbuy (they still suck), Target, or Frys doing this. I would have assumed someone with the financial resources (unlike me) would have sued them into oblivion by now.
The store had several people in there, being a mall setting, this is normal.
My wife decided to select a "new" game for purchase...
My suspicions were re-confirmed when the clerk behind the counter pulled a disc-in-sleeve from below and went to place it in a jewel case.
I asked what he was doing and whether or not we were being sold a new or used copy. They guy, probably late-teens, said it was new. I asked where the OEM celophane wrap was, to which he responded with their "gutting" procedure. I expected that.
I told him that I would be glad to buy a sealed copy. He told me the usual "this is a new copy" crap that they are instructed to tell customers.
I raised my voice, in stating that it was illegal. Intentionally becoming a jerk and calling attention to this. I was able to get the attention of a couple other potential customers, who also left the store.
I'm thinking "first sales" doctrine vs. a company like autodesk who overtly sells their licenses as non-transferrable.
My real goal was to call attention to people in the store on what the store is doing, then leave.
Although, I still wonder: Why the HELL is GameStop still allowed to exist as a business if the break the seals on "new" products prior to selling them? You would never see Bestbuy (they still suck), Target, or Frys doing this. I would have assumed someone with the financial resources (unlike me) would have sued them into oblivion by now.
Lets see if i got this right: Gamestop acused Square Enix of putting "their" coupons in the deus ex retail version. Someone explain to me how did they got those in the first place...
Unless Square Enix stoem those from gamestop it looks like they gave them to square enix.
Well, highly anticipated game, so this was kinda expected. Nowdays a successfull game is like a bone, and the companies, rabid dogs.
Unless Square Enix stoem those from gamestop it looks like they gave them to square enix.
Well, highly anticipated game, so this was kinda expected. Nowdays a successfull game is like a bone, and the companies, rabid dogs.
[citation][nom]sieged[/nom]IndignantSkeptic :this is blatant theft by GameStop against their customers; robbing them of something they paid for and expected to get. would you complain if best buy started removing the trial versions of Norton from their HP pcs before sale too?Best Buy can remove all of their Bloatware and it would make 90% of us happy.[/citation]
meh, it would still require a full format
meh, it would still require a full format
stupid move from gamestop
they killing their own reputation
if they headed by steve jobs im sure they will let the coupon intact, and sue squareenix later
they killing their own reputation
if they headed by steve jobs im sure they will let the coupon intact, and sue squareenix later
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[citation][nom]sieged[/nom]IndignantSkeptic :this is blatant theft by GameStop against their customers; robbing them of something they paid for and expected to get. would you complain if best buy started removing the trial versions of Norton from their HP pcs before sale too?Best Buy can remove all of their Bloatware and it would make 90% of us happy.[/citation]
Those are trials man SE is giving out a full OnLive copy for every purchase.
Those are trials man SE is giving out a full OnLive copy for every purchase.
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[citation][nom]killbits[/nom]the last time i bought a pc game from gamestop was in 2004, right before steam came out. ironically, i think that game was deus ex 2.@kK-zoNn uhhh.... what the???? google translate much? i take it english isn't your first language.[/citation]
No, English is, but don;t use Google translate much, on the interest to say only use googles browser and search engine think once and awhile. Do you use translate, keep getting its a great idea or use too use at times.
Otherwise for the interest of it all is probably as interested as what that might be for any use. there might be something to translate on the ideas at times but is kinda hard saying.
But for Gamestop though the interest of such probably has changed on ideas of an interest for what might be on. To say of course the interest then and now hasn;t changed much for what any might be.
hard saying or telling really, its nice that in 2004 there was an inteest and there is something to say have an interest of for the idea of any place of what might be one, but otherwise is just more of that of interest for say any of the article or topic.
Again though who knows really, Even ironically speaking on the interest to say. Either way of it rather you go again or not is probably as only fitting of the article to say otherwise, or not.
K-zon:
But of it though again on my part if there is any use of say "Google translate" let me know. Keep hearing thats its an interesting service in which to use and might try using. Whichever kinda finds its interest of use from one.
No, English is, but don;t use Google translate much, on the interest to say only use googles browser and search engine think once and awhile. Do you use translate, keep getting its a great idea or use too use at times.
Otherwise for the interest of it all is probably as interested as what that might be for any use. there might be something to translate on the ideas at times but is kinda hard saying.
But for Gamestop though the interest of such probably has changed on ideas of an interest for what might be on. To say of course the interest then and now hasn;t changed much for what any might be.
hard saying or telling really, its nice that in 2004 there was an inteest and there is something to say have an interest of for the idea of any place of what might be one, but otherwise is just more of that of interest for say any of the article or topic.
Again though who knows really, Even ironically speaking on the interest to say. Either way of it rather you go again or not is probably as only fitting of the article to say otherwise, or not.
K-zon:
But of it though again on my part if there is any use of say "Google translate" let me know. Keep hearing thats its an interesting service in which to use and might try using. Whichever kinda finds its interest of use from one.
[citation][nom]killbits[/nom]the last time i bought a pc game from gamestop was in 2004, right before steam came out. ironically, i think that game was deus ex 2.@kK-zoNn uhhh.... what the???? google translate much? i take it english isn't your first language.[/citation]
K-zon: (Was intially here but did not want to work) (For Double post can probably delete one which probably would be first post of this one)
No, English is, but don;t use Google translate much, on the interest to say only use googles browser and search engine think once and awhile. Do you use translate, keep getting its a great idea or use too use at times.
Otherwise for the interest of it all is probably as interested as what that might be for any use. there might be something to translate on the ideas at times but is kinda hard saying.
But for Gamestop though the interest of such probably has changed on ideas of an interest for what might be on. To say of course the interest then and now hasn;t changed much for what any might be.
hard saying or telling really, its nice that in 2004 there was an inteest and there is something to say have an interest of for the idea of any place of what might be one, but otherwise is just more of that of interest for say any of the article or topic.
Again though who knows really, Even ironically speaking on the interest to say. Either way of it rather you go again or not is probably as only fitting of the article to say otherwise, or not.
But of it though again on my part if there is any use of say "Google translate" let me know. Keep hearing thats its an interesting service in which to use and might try using. Whichever kinda finds its interest of use from one.
K-zon: (Was intially here but did not want to work) (For Double post can probably delete one which probably would be first post of this one)
No, English is, but don;t use Google translate much, on the interest to say only use googles browser and search engine think once and awhile. Do you use translate, keep getting its a great idea or use too use at times.
Otherwise for the interest of it all is probably as interested as what that might be for any use. there might be something to translate on the ideas at times but is kinda hard saying.
But for Gamestop though the interest of such probably has changed on ideas of an interest for what might be on. To say of course the interest then and now hasn;t changed much for what any might be.
hard saying or telling really, its nice that in 2004 there was an inteest and there is something to say have an interest of for the idea of any place of what might be one, but otherwise is just more of that of interest for say any of the article or topic.
Again though who knows really, Even ironically speaking on the interest to say. Either way of it rather you go again or not is probably as only fitting of the article to say otherwise, or not.
But of it though again on my part if there is any use of say "Google translate" let me know. Keep hearing thats its an interesting service in which to use and might try using. Whichever kinda finds its interest of use from one.
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IH8U
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Oh the reasons I shop for games on Newegg, Steam, GOG, and Amazon (aside from better selection). Thanks to crap like this I will continue to do so. I haven't purchased a game from a B&M store in years (thank you AAFES. Your lack of selection and insane pricing have robbed military members around the globe for years).
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BTW, AAFES "allows" gamestop on military installations. However they (GS) are not allowed to price-match, or sell games cheaper than AAFES (if they even stock PC games that is). Which means to buy most popular used games we have to go elsewhere (online, or off-post).
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[citation][nom]sieged[/nom]IndignantSkeptic :this is blatant theft by GameStop against their customers; robbing them of something they paid for and expected to get. would you complain if best buy started removing the trial versions of Norton from their HP pcs before sale too?Best Buy can remove all of their Bloatware and it would make 90% of us happy.[/citation]
The thing is bloatware is degrading the performance and stuff. This thing is free and just a paper.
The thing is bloatware is degrading the performance and stuff. This thing is free and just a paper.
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