Question Gaming build at 1440p, need help with selecting parts

[Weathered]

Looking to build a new computer for gaming at 1440p. Currently running 8700k, 1080ti, 16gm ram. Would just need the main components, don't need monitor, keyboard or mouse.

Haven't really kept up with the latest news on hardware. I know gpu prices have been pretty high, have those been coming down any? What video card would I need to see a noticeable increase over my current 1080ti? 3060? 3070? 3080ti?

Part of me wants to go all out on this build. But also at same time, don't want to spend 3,4 or 5k dollars. Don't plan on doing any watercooling unless certain cpu's absolutely require some type of watercooling. I have never messed with water cooling before.

Any reason to wait to build? New hardware coming out soon? I may not "need" to upgrade but been getting the itch to upgrade

 

[Why_Me]

Right now I am leaning towards staying with the k version as long as I would not have any issues cooling it on air. Will see what reviews say about it. If I understand it right, the only real differences is the base frequency, price and the ability to overclock and under/over volt on the k series?

For the gpu, it seems if I want the Asus 4080 for $1200, I need to jump on it pretty quick. Several sites are out of stock, only amazon has it in stock for $1649. Will see how the 4070ti compares to the 4080. Geez these prices are crazy lol. Whatever I get, I want to make sure it is a good upgrade over the 1080ti

At the moment, I plan on running 1 nvme and 1 2.5 ssd. Still thinking about going with 2 nvme drives. Hard to believe the speed difference between a 2.5 ssd and a nvme drive like the samsung 980. I realize having 2 nvme drives maybe overkill unless I was doing lots of large file transfers which I don't.

In my last build, I selected the P version of that msi motherboard? Does that have 2 M.2 heatsinks?

One M.2 NVMe and one SATA is fine. btw I'm looking forward to the reviews of that card myself. ^^

 

[Why_Me]

Right now I am leaning towards staying with the k version as long as I would not have any issues cooling it on air. Will see what reviews say about it. If I understand it right, the only real differences is the base frequency, price and the ability to overclock and under/over volt on the k series?

For the gpu, it seems if I want the Asus 4080 for $1200, I need to jump on it pretty quick. Several sites are out of stock, only amazon has it in stock for $1649. Will see how the 4070ti compares to the 4080. Geez these prices are crazy lol. Whatever I get, I want to make sure it is a good upgrade over the 1080ti

At the moment, I plan on running 1 nvme and 1 2.5 ssd. Still thinking about going with 2 nvme drives. Hard to believe the speed difference between a 2.5 ssd and a nvme drive like the samsung 980. I realize having 2 nvme drives maybe overkill unless I was doing lots of large file transfers which I don't.

In my last build, I selected the P version of that msi motherboard? Does that have 2 M.2 heatsinks?

 

[rulerss]

Looking to build a new computer for gaming at 1440p. Currently running 8700k, 1080ti, 16gm ram. Would just need the main components, don't need monitor, keyboard or mouse.

Haven't really kept up with the latest news on hardware. I know gpu prices have been pretty high, have those been coming down any? What video card would I need to see a noticeable increase over my current 1080ti? 3060? 3070? 3080ti?

Part of me wants to go all out on this build. But also at same time, don't want to spend 3,4 or 5k dollars. Don't plan on doing any watercooling unless certain cpu's absolutely require some type of watercooling. I have never messed with water cooling before.

Any reason to wait to build? New hardware coming out soon? I may not "need" to upgrade but been getting the itch to upgrade

You can get a simple, yet practical pc configuration for gaming, like mine. An intel i5 processor(I have 10400f), and some Kingston 16giga ddr4 ram. Then an Intel SSD, and a 3060ti or 1660ti graphic card. The other one is cheaper, yet still efficient.

 

[Karadjgne]

Whatever I get, I want to make sure it is a good upgrade over the 1080ti

Figure the 1080ti is roughly equitable to a 2070Super, 3060, putting it somewhere around the capabilities of a RTX4040.

That puts the 4080 at roughly 150% more powerful. I'd say that's somewhat better than a 'good upgrade'.

 

[Weathered]

While the 4070ti would probably serve my needs well, will probably stick with the 4080 if I can get it cheap enough. After looking at dimensions of both the case and the gpu, I don't imagine I would have any trouble with the gpu being too close to the side panel and having issues plugging the power connector in?

Figuring on getting a contact frame. Looks like they have gone up in price. Think when I first looked at them, seemed like they was under $10, now the thermal grizzly is almost $40.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor | $427.97 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler | $77.36 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $239.99 @ B&H
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory | $139.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | $129.99 @ Adorama
Storage | PNY CS900 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $119.88 @ Amazon
Video Card | Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card | $1554.75 @ MemoryC
Case | Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case | $99.90 @ Newegg Sellers
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $189.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2979.82
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-05 08:12 EST-0500 |

 

[Why_Me]

While the 4070ti would probably serve my needs well, will probably stick with the 4080 if I can get it cheap enough. After looking at dimensions of both the case and the gpu, I don't imagine I would have any trouble with the gpu being too close to the side panel and having issues plugging the power connector in?

Figuring on getting a contact frame. Looks like they have gone up in price. Think when I first looked at them, seemed like they was under $10, now the thermal grizzly is almost $40.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor | $427.97 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler | $77.36 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $239.99 @ B&H
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory | $139.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | $129.99 @ Adorama
Storage | PNY CS900 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive | $119.88 @ Amazon
Video Card | Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card | $1554.75 @ MemoryC
Case | Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case | $99.90 @ Newegg Sellers
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $189.99 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2979.82
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-05 08:12 EST-0500 |

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr....l1311&_nkw=thermalright+lga1700-bcf&_sacat=0

 

[Weathered]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fr....l1311&_nkw=thermalright+lga1700-bcf&_sacat=0

You think there is any difference between the thermalright and the thermal grizzly? I seen many people say the thermal grizzly is much better quality and better tolerances.

 

[Why_Me]

You think there is any difference between the thermalright and the thermal grizzly? I seen many people say the thermal grizzly is much better quality and better tolerances.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYU1OskbY-Q

 

[Why_Me]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYU1OskbY-Q

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/thermalright-lga1700-bcf-contact-frame

 

[Weathered]

Ty f or that. Don't think I seen this talked about but does adding a contact frame void warranties? If so, would it be just the cpu warranty or would the motherboard warranty be voided as well or anything else?

 

[Why_Me]

Ty f or that. Don't think I seen this talked about but does adding a contact frame void warranties? If so, would it be just the cpu warranty or would the motherboard warranty be voided as well or anything else?

It might void the cpu warranty but how are they to know anyone was using a contact frame.

 

[helper800]

It might void the cpu warranty but how are they to know anyone was using a contact frame.

It definitely voids the warranty, but they have no way of knowing that a frame was used.

 

[Karadjgne]

It'll void the warranty, if mentioned. Not for any reasonable explanation, but because Intel knows about the warpage issue with the hold down they certified for use, but aren't in any hurry to recall or fix the issue. The aftermarket 'fix' is just stepping on Intels toes and they'll object if for no other reason than 'on principle'. 🤣

 

[Weathered]

Ty all for the help so far.

On the samsung 980 pro nvme drive, does it need a heatsink? Seems there is a pretty good price difference, about a $70 difference, at least on amazon. I guess I can buy it without heatsink and see how it does and buy the heatsink later if needed?

 

[Why_Me]

Ty all for the help so far.

On the samsung 980 pro nvme drive, does it need a heatsink? Seems there is a pretty good price difference, about a $70 difference, at least on amazon. I guess I can buy it without heatsink and see how it does and buy the heatsink later if needed?

Most all new boards come with an M.2 heatsink.

 

[Karadjgne]

Gen3 NVMe don't require a heatsink. Gen4 do. However, Samsung got smart, realizing that many motherboards come equipped with a heatsink on the NVMe ports, so to cut production costs and increase sales because of lowered sales costs, they produce many Gen4 in 2 versions. With and without a heatsink.

So if your motherboard has a heatsink, you can save some $$ and get the non-heatsink version, if of that port does not have a heatsink, you'd need to buy the more expensive version with included heatsink.

 

[Weathered]

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor | $421.96 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler | $72.36 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $246.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory | $139.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | $119.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | $179.99 @ B&H
Video Card | Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card | $1607.98 @ Amazon
Case | Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case |-
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $189.99 @ Best Buy
Custom | Thermalright CPU Contact Frame for LGA 1700 Retrofit Kit, 17XX-BCF Bracket Intel12 Generation | $17.97 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2997.22
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-16 19:52 EST-0500 |

Does the MSI Pro z790-p come with heatsinks for the m.2 drives? Sorry if it says it does somewhere and I just overlooked it.

Not buying that video card at that price. Going to try and get one for around $1200.

 

[Why_Me]

Here's a board with dual M.2 heatsinks.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145417
GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE AX $259.99

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-AORUS-ELITE-AX-rev-10#kf

SK Hynix modules

https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb/p/N82E16820331839
Team T-Force Vulcan DDR5 5600 32GB (2x16GB) CL36 $119.99 Sale Ends in 6 Hours

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6FD741J
DeepCool AG620 CPU Cooler $54.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ag620-air-cooler

 

[Weathered]

Here's a board with dual M.2 heatsinks.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145417
GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS ELITE AX $259.99

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-AORUS-ELITE-AX-rev-10#kf

SK Hynix modules

https://www.newegg.com/team-32gb/p/N82E16820331839
Team T-Force Vulcan DDR5 5600 32GB (2x16GB) CL36 $119.99 Sale Ends in 6 Hours

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6FD741J
DeepCool AG620 CPU Cooler $54.99

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/deepcool-ag620-air-cooler

So the MSI board I selected doesn't come with heatsinks for the drives?

Would that memory have any clearance issues with the cooler?

Is that AG620 cooler just been released?

What would my system in my sig be worth if I was to sell as a complete unit? Only difference is currently running noctua nh-d15 cpu cooler. Still debating on whether to take out the ssd, kind of paranoid about data theft. I realize that would make a big difference on the price and if I did that, would probably be better off parting it out.

 

[logainofhades]

That MSI board only has heatsinks for the top M.2 slot. Made some changes, to your build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($421.96 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.39 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($161.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1286.05 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex V Pro 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Custom: Thermalright CPU Contact Frame for LGA 1700 Retrofit Kit, 17XX-BCF Bracket Intel12 Generation ($17.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $2606.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-17 08:11 EST-0500

 

[Weathered]

That MSI board only has heatsinks for the top M.2 slot. Made some changes, to your build.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor ($421.96 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($77.39 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 AORUS ELITE AX ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($259.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Crucial P5 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($161.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Zotac GAMING Trinity GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1286.05 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex V Pro 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Custom: Thermalright CPU Contact Frame for LGA 1700 Retrofit Kit, 17XX-BCF Bracket Intel12 Generation ($17.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $2606.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-17 08:11 EST-0500

Ty for the build. Would that memory have any clearance issues with the cpu cooler? Is that psu just as good or better than the corsair rmx?

Any idea what my current build in my sig would be worth?

 

[GarrettL]

I have not read the entire thread but why go with the the Intel 1700 socket?

At this price point of almost $2,700 you have no upgrade path. For the same up front cost the AMD AM5 socket will have some long term upgrade option vs the the LGA 1700.

 

[helper800]

I have not read the entire thread but why go with the the Intel 1700 socket?

At this price point of almost $2,700 you have no upgrade path. For the same up front cost the AMD AM5 socket will have some long term upgrade option vs the the LGA 1700.

The OP started the thread about 4 months before AMD released their CPUs. I will make a build.

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | Intel Core i7-13700K 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor | $421.96 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler | Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler | $72.36 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard | $246.99 @ Newegg
Memory | Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory | $139.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | $119.99 @ Amazon
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive | $179.99 @ B&H
Video Card | Asus TUF GAMING GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card | $1607.98 @ Amazon
Case | Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case |-
Power Supply | Corsair RM1000x (2021) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $189.99 @ Best Buy
Custom | Thermalright CPU Contact Frame for LGA 1700 Retrofit Kit, 17XX-BCF Bracket Intel12 Generation | $17.97 @ Amazon
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $2997.22
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-16 19:52 EST-0500 |

This is a great build but as others have suggested the Intel LGA1700 is already end of life, meaning it will not get any more CPU releases for it. This AMD build will get you 95% the same performance now, which will feel identical to the above intel build, however, this AM5 platform will be getting many upgrades in the future that will definitely be outperforming the LGA 1700 CPUs. An alternative AMD build is below.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1199.99 @ GameStop)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2653.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-18 12:46 EST-0500

 

[GarrettL]

The OP started the thread about 4 months before AMD released their CPUs. I will make a build.


This is a great build but as others have suggested the Intel LGA1700 is already end of life, meaning it will not get any more CPU releases for it. This AMD build will get you 95% the same performance now, which will feel identical to the above intel build, however, this AM5 platform will be getting many upgrades in the future that will definitely be outperforming the LGA 1700 CPUs. An alternative AMD build is below.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 360 A-RGB 48.8 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($179.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB GeForce RTX 4080 16 GB Video Card ($1199.99 @ GameStop)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse G360A ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2653.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-01-18 12:46 EST-0500

A build with a future!

 

[Weathered]

I have not read the entire thread but why go with the the Intel 1700 socket?

At this price point of almost $2,700 you have no upgrade path. For the same up front cost the AMD AM5 socket will have some long term upgrade option vs the the LGA 1700.

One reason is when I do a build, I typically start from scratch. Idk, maybe that would be different if I did have an upgrade option. I have nothing against amd at all. Some of it could be a mindset thing too, always went with intel for my builds