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Alright so this is going to be the first time building computers. I need help deciding what should be the best for my budget of under $800. I already have a build ready so I can get feedback on it.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4rxPGX
So my biggest questions I have is:
Is all the parts compatible with each other?
Do I need an optical drive, I only see myself using this for installing windows 8.1, and even then I could I just use a flash drive?
Is there better things I can get with my money?
Can this build run games at High settings?

Thank you for your time.
 
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iso4675809
I did you one better :https://pcpartpicker.com/user/OPP33/saved/ywnMnQ

This is closer to your budget and your getting a better deal all around. The AMD cpu i choose has 2 more core than the fx 6300 which is going to help a great deal when gaming or multitasking, its also more efficient. Faster ram, more memory, better gpu and motherboard. This build is even cheaper than the one you orginally composed.
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/768C99
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/768C99/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.00 @ B&H)
Monitor: LG 22M35D 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $866.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-12 21:37 EST-0500
whipped together something a lot more powerful. for only $20 over.
 
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I would personally go with an intel i5 for the cpu and an asrock motherboard for a couple of more dollars you get better performance however you're over doing it with that power supply you'll be good with 500watts with your build, you could get a cheaper one too. I got a 600watt evga 80%bronze psu from bestbuy for 40 dollars. Also if your a student Microsoft offer 8.1 pro for 79 dollars
 
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i would like to thank you guys for your recommendations, but I would like to keep a lot of the parts I have in my list to be the same. I really need it to be under 800 so that would be helpful. But i would like to know if I need an optical drive. Also I will try to upgrade so I would like to keep the power source. Finally I would appreciate that if you are recommending a part, please tell me how it fares with the part you are replacing.
 
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Nowadays optical drive are pretty much obsolete; you can pretty much install anything via flash drive if thats what your worried about. However if you still want to get one for convinence purposes i recommend you buy an external optical drive one which you could connect to any other pc via usb, its a more hassle free experience. I know best buy have some external lg optical drives for 20 bucks

Also if you intend on keeping the psu for "upgrading" you might as well save up and get better components off the bat. The amd fx series are pretty much on the way out. Another pointer pcpartpicker.com is awesome it lets you know if there are any incompatiblities in the system below your setup like a footnote and on the upper hand right corner it lets you know the wattage your system will be consuming. If you plan on upgrading and have an idea what your upgrading to, I recommend you add it to the list and see how much wattage your going to need that you could get a more appropriate power supply unit.

Look check it out :https://pcpartpicker.com/user/OPP33/saved/qcrPxr
for 60 more dollars you get more memory a better cpu, faster gskillz ram, a better quality gpu, a bigger and better monitor by benq which are designed for gaming, and 600 watt psu to leave you room for upgrades

I'll do an amd build just case you favor their brand, but trust me you can never go wrong with intel
 
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I did you one better :https://pcpartpicker.com/user/OPP33/saved/ywnMnQ

This is closer to your budget and your getting a better deal all around. The AMD cpu i choose has 2 more core than the fx 6300 which is going to help a great deal when gaming or multitasking, its also more efficient. Faster ram, more memory, better gpu and motherboard. This build is even cheaper than the one you orginally composed.
 
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what you should do is is get a cheaper Mobo and go back to the 6300. Invest the extra money into a better graphics card. A GTX 760, a R9 280. The GPU is the component you want spend the most on for a gaming computer.
 
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Yeah but the 750ti is a solid performer, your really not going to get a big difference in performance unless you get a flagship card like a gtx 970, 980 or a amd r9 290 or 290X...although the gtx 960 and the amd r9 285 offer better performance for a 100 dollar difference that might be something to consider, its all up to his budget
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($60.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($199.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Azza SIRIUS ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer G236HLBbd 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($109.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $877.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-14 13:38 EST-0500



ik its over budget quite a bit but thats alot more performance than the other builds the gtx 960 will almost max out bf4 at 60fps actually if u OC it right it probly would max it. the proccesor is better then the 8320 and will handle games better since this is your first build i didint think you would be OC this so the intel i5 4440 is gonna be much better
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 PRO4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($172.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case ($33.98 @ Directron)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.75 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 22M35D 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $801.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-14 13:43 EST-0500
 
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I do believe this to be the better bang for your buck, not dissing Iso's build but I'll explain.

1) You had an overprice CPU and Motherboard. While I personally have the 8320 and it's a great CPU I got it for $100 and would not pay anything more than that when the 6300 is more than adequate. "But the 8320 has more cores!" What are cores? The 2 extra cores will hardly matter to you in a gaming rig. You can consider the Octa-cores if you're a hardcore Video editor, graphic designer, or a huge multi-tasker. But for gaming the 6300 saves you $30.

2) The motherboard. I have the M5A97 with my 8320 and it's great, and simple. You still have the ability to Overclock and again you save $40 or so here.

3) I changed the CPU cooler to the 212 EVO instead of the plus, much better cooler and it's the same price as the 212 plus!

4) Dual channel RAM (2x4GB) Cheaper than the single channel RAM and much more efficient.

5) With the $80 or so saved I changed the 750ti to a R9 280. You can look up tons of comparions online. The 280, while using more power, blows the 750Ti out of the water. If you're building a gaming rig you want to make sure your GPU is your most powerful component. There's nothing with the 750Ti, it's energy efficient but why settle for something like that when you can get something more powerful and will last you longer.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX4 4g Thermal Paste ($8.60 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280 3GB DUAL-X Video Card ($192.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Commander MS-I ID ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: LG 22M35D 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($87.99 @ NCIX US)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($26.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $827.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-14 13:45 EST-0500
 
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the i5 4440 is not better than the amd fx octacore, not even close...The i5 4670 performs on par with the octacore and the i5 4690 is pretty much king for gaming and even then the performance of amd fx octacore doesn't fall to behind.
 
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There is no way way an i3 could even compete against amd 8320, no way in hell!!! the 8320 is essentially the 9590 except it doesn't come overclocked right out the case. Even at stock clock an i3 couldn't even trade blows, imagine if he overclocks the 8320 to 4.7 ghz
 
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The i3 performs better on the single threaded benchmarks because its intel duh!! but when you compare it the multithreaded benchmarks amd performs a lot better not to mention it has double the amount of cache memory; its pretty much 2 cores vs. 8 and on top of that all of amd fx series cpu come unlocked so you could oc to higher frequencies, if you were to compare the i3 to an 8350 or beyond the fx series would perform better but what most people don't know is that all octacore fx series cpu's have the exact same chip as the platform the only difference is the stock clock. The amd is just a better bargain for the money; now if your talking about an i5 that's a different story because I myself have a 4690k and that thing is sweet man!

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/357/AMD_FX-Series_FX-8320_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-4330.html

here's another

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2056856/intel-core-4340-amd-8350.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1973900/8320-6300-4330.html
 
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wow it has 8 cores so what barley any game uses 4 CORES you can talk about multithreaded benchmarks blah blah blah but the FACTS are i3 performs better in games. in GAME benchmarks you can also see that i3 is better than OC FX CPU + for OC you need better mobo (more expensive) and aftermarket CPU cooler so the AMD is much more expensive for 0 performance gain in gaming
 
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Did I say multi-threaded, sorry i meant multi core benchmarks. Thats were your wrong though games nowaday do make of more cores, however when it comes down to hyperthreading not so much you literally just said so yourself. The i3 might have a better single core performance but it only has TWO!!!!!!! Even though the individual cores of amd's fx series dont perform as well as intel's, there're 8 cores available for use. Dont believe me? here!

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/building-a-pc-everything-you-need-to-know-about-cp/1100-6421072/

Now if you were talking about an i5 4670 / 4690 or even an i5 3570k sandy bridge thats a different story. But when you stack up an i3 up against an fx octacore, i'll stick to amd.
 
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not many many games utilize more than 2 cores. more than 2 years ago people were saying how all games will use 4 cores but still that didnt happen. but forget about i3 i just gave i3 as an example that even i3 performs better than fx cpus in games of today.

you can see that i suggested i5

my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TFffCJ
your build: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/OPP33/saved/ywnMnQ

my build will perform much better now and in the future
 
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Oh so now your saying forget the i3? and dude my first recommendation was an i5 as well.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/OPP33/saved/qcrPxr

But fact of the matter is when you decide to proceed with a good intel build your going to spend more money as opposed to amd. Yeah your getting better quality for what you pay, however you're making it seem like amd is a piece of crap; its not. Taking price/ performance into consideration amd's octacore cpus are better than most available in the market right now.
 
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i still think i3 is better because i dont think that there will be alot of games relesed in near future that will use more than 2 core (currently there are about 5 such games) and you build is so wrong GTX 750TI for gaming with this budget ???
 
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Thats not true actually all recent titles definitley take advantage of four core otherwise why would the i5 be so popularin the gaming community, thats a given in addition more games now and in the future are being written to take advantage of all the cpu's cores. Now that i think of it when have you ever heard of an epic build with an i3 cpu? And considering the budget i dont think the 750ti is to bad, its a solid performer, get the job done, its cheap and he could always upgrade later like he stated he would.
 
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