Gaming pc for $ 600

[Shivam15]

Am looking to make amd based gaming pc for upto $ 600. This is my first and am a total newbie. So any suggestions and improvements will be appreciated. This is the part list I have selected till now

CPU AMD FX-4170 4.2GHz Quad-Core $134.98
CPU Cooler Cooler Master DK9-7E52A-0L-GP $8.98
Motherboard Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ $75.98
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 $74.98
Storage Seagate Constellation ES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM $68.99
Video Card Asus GeForce GT 630 2GB $52.98
Case Enermax ECA3280A-BL ATX Mid Tower $54.99
Power Supply Corsair 500W ATX12V $44.

 

[varun_02]

You can bring down the RAM to 4GB and put that money into a decent gpu.
Upgrade your RAM later when you have money.

 

[barto]

Eh. Those parts are OK. But you can change a few things to improve the build dramatically.

I don't include cases and disc drives in builds because the case should be chosen by the purchaser and disc drives are $20.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.97 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $465.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-12 10:11 EST-0500)

 

[Shivam15]

Please let me know if I need to go upgrades on graphics

 

[Shivam15]

Eh. Those parts are OK. But you can change a few things to improve the build dramatically.

I don't include cases and disc drives in builds because the case should be chosen by the purchaser and disc drives are $20.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($109.99 @ TigerDirect)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.97 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card ($100.66 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($44.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $465.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-12 10:11 EST-0500)

Is the msi motherboard better than the Asus one? And about the graphics card. It's just 1gb. Won't an extra gig make a difference?

 

[michxymi]

NZXT Source 210 Elite White Steel with painted interior ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/ Black Front Trim
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146077

EVGA 500 B 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified 500W Active PFC ATX12V v2.31/EPS 12V v2.91 3 Year Warranty 100-B1-0500-KR Power Supply Intel 4th Gen CPU Ready
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438012

AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor
FD6300WMHKBOX
bundled with:
ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519912

Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104262

PowerColor TurboDuo AXR9 270 2GBD5-TDHE/OC Radeon R9 270 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131545

That's what 630$ can buy for gaming

 

[barto]

Is the msi motherboard better than the Asus one? And about the graphics card. It's just 1gb. Won't an extra gig make a difference?

The motherboards are pretty much the same. The only real difference between the two is the PCIe 2.0 slots speed. The MSI has Crossfire support with speeds of x16 and x8. The Asus support speed is x16 and x4. If you don't plan on have two cards, you can ignore this. If you plan on running two cards, this will come into play as this is the transfer speeds between the cards and motherboard. I can explain more if you want.

And no the extra Gig won't make a difference. You have a 630 gt. The 7770 HD is more powerful than the 630.

Edit:
Graphics card Hierarchy. See where the GPUs listed are placed.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

Also, any parts can be changed if you don't like something.

 

[Shivam15]

NZXT Source 210 Elite White Steel with painted interior ATX Mid Tower Computer Case w/ Black Front Trim
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146077

EVGA 500 B 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified 500W Active PFC ATX12V v2.31/EPS 12V v2.91 3 Year Warranty 100-B1-0500-KR Power Supply Intel 4th Gen CPU Ready
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438012

AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor
FD6300WMHKBOX
bundled with:
ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1519912

Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104262

PowerColor TurboDuo AXR9 270 2GBD5-TDHE/OC Radeon R9 270 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131545

That's what 630$ can buy for gaming

what about the radeon 7770 hd 2gb graphics card? even that one looks decent and is almost $ 80 cheaper

 

[Shivam15]

Is the msi motherboard better than the Asus one? And about the graphics card. It's just 1gb. Won't an extra gig make a difference?

The motherboards are pretty much the same. The only real difference between the two is the PCIe 2.0 slots speed. The MSI has Crossfire support with speeds of x16 and x8. The Asus support speed is x16 and x4. If you don't plan on have two cards, you can ignore this. If you plan on running two cards, this will come into play as this is the transfer speeds between the cards and motherboard. I can explain more if you want.

And no the extra Gig won't make a difference. You have a 630 gt. The 7770 HD is more powerful than the 630.

Edit:
Graphics card Hierarchy. See where the GPUs listed are placed.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html

Also, any parts can be changed if you don't like something.

yeah i didn't get the crossfire part. What exactly does it do?
Also i would like a motherboard which has uefi bios because in future i do intend on dual booting with steam os .
and if the extra gig doesnt matter than why do some games require 1.25 gb memory graphics card>?

Also pcpartpicker is showing some incompatibility between the fx 6300 cpu and msi 970 g46 motherboard

 

[barto]

yeah i didn't get the crossfire part. What exactly does it do?
Also i would like a motherboard which has uefi bios because in future i do intend on dual booting with steam os .
and if the extra gig doesnt matter than why do some games require 1.25 gb memory graphics card>?

Crossfire is the ability to use 2 GPUs (same model) together essentially as one. For example, you could buy two 7770 HDs and run them with a bridge (a connector) which will pretty much double the performance of a single 7770 HD. So you could buy one 7770 now and then down the road buy another. Nvidia has the same thing expect they call theirs SLI. To tie in the speed, the transfer rates on PCIe (the slot that graphic cards connect to) matter if you are going to have multiple cards. One card will be talking with the motherboard faster than the other. But again, if you are only going to buy 1 GPU and don't plan on any more, than ignore all of this.


As for memory size on a GPU. The use a GPU memory is very dependent on the resolution you play the game. More graphics memory is needed for High resolutions which is anything over 1080 (1080 is 1920x1080) like 2560 x 1440 or 2560 x 1600. When people play on high resolutions they usually have multiple monitors. You also have to take in account the GPU you'll be using. When it comes to high resolutions and games, you would want a very powerful GPU, we're talking like $350+ for a single card and most people have at least 2 of them.

Breaking it down. Here is the average frames for a few graphic cards playing BF4 beta. The link for the entire review is at the bottom.

So two things, firs the 7770 had 1GB of GRAM while the 630GT has only 512MB. The resolution here is 1280 x 720 on Low settings, which is significantly less than 1080. Just buy sheer power, the 7770 out performs the 630. GRAM had little to do with the performance here. You could also buy a Nvidia 650 GTX if you want instead of the 7770 HD.

As for the PCPartpicker incompatibility, it has to deal with a bios update to support the 6300. You may have to update the Bios to support the 6300 but that's also true for any FX x3xx series CPU. Again, you can change the motherboard back to the Asus one. I feel you like that one better.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-4-graphics-card-performance,3634-4.html

 

[Shivam15]

yeah i didn't get the crossfire part. What exactly does it do?
Also i would like a motherboard which has uefi bios because in future i do intend on dual booting with steam os .
and if the extra gig doesnt matter than why do some games require 1.25 gb memory graphics card>?

Crossfire is the ability to use 2 GPUs (same model) together essentially as one. For example, you could buy two 7770 HDs and run them with a bridge (a connector) which will pretty much double the performance of a single 7770 HD. So you could buy one 7770 now and then down the road buy another. Nvidia has the same thing expect they call theirs SLI. To tie in the speed, the transfer rates on PCIe (the slot that graphic cards connect to) matter if you are going to have multiple cards. One card will be talking with the motherboard faster than the other. But again, if you are only going to buy 1 GPU and don't plan on any more, than ignore all of this.


As for memory size on a GPU. The use a GPU memory is very dependent on the resolution you play the game. More graphics memory is needed for High resolutions which is anything over 1080 (1080 is 1920x1080) like 2560 x 1440 or 2560 x 1600. When people play on high resolutions they usually have multiple monitors. You also have to take in account the GPU you'll be using. When it comes to high resolutions and games, you would want a very powerful GPU, we're talking like $350+ for a single card and most people have at least 2 of them.

Breaking it down. Here is the average frames for a few graphic cards playing BF4 beta. The link for the entire review is at the bottom.

So two things, firs the 7770 had 1GB of GRAM while the 630GT has only 512MB. The resolution here is 1280 x 720 on Low settings, which is significantly less than 1080. Just buy sheer power, the 7770 out performs the 630. GRAM had little to do with the performance here. You could also buy a Nvidia 650 GTX if you want instead of the 7770 HD.

As for the PCPartpicker incompatibility, it has to deal with a bios update to support the 6300. You may have to update the Bios to support the 6300 but that's also true for any FX x3xx series CPU. Again, you can change the motherboard back to the Asus one. I feel you like that one better.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-4-graphics-card-performance,3634-4.html

yeah i think am gonna go with the asus one only.
so.
Cpu AMD FX 6300
Motherboard Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ are final .
Also am thinking of going with the R9 270 over the radeon 7770 HD. Its costlier i know but it is also a 100 times better

 

[barto]

yeah i think am gonna go with the asus one only.
so.
Cpu AMD FX 6300
Motherboard Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ are final .
Also am thinking of going with the R9 270 over the radeon 7770 HD. Its costlier i know but it is also a 100 times better

The 270 is a lot better than the 7770 HD. I simply posted the sub 500 build as a foundation to expand on. I wasn't sure if you had an Operating system on hand. Some people don't. When you add a case, disc drive and OS to the build I posted, it puts it right at $600 which is a complete computer. But if you have an OS, than a better GPU is warranted.

 

[Shivam15]

yeah i think am gonna go with the asus one only.
so.
Cpu AMD FX 6300
Motherboard Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ are final .
Also am thinking of going with the R9 270 over the radeon 7770 HD. Its costlier i know but it is also a 100 times better

The 270 is a lot better than the 7770 HD. I simply posted the sub 500 build as a foundation to expand on. I wasn't sure if you had an Operating system on hand. Some people don't. When you add a case, disc drive and OS to the build I posted, it puts it right at $600 which is a complete computer. But if you have an OS, than a better GPU is warranted.

yeah about the OS. Am thinking of going with the 270 for the time being and installing a pirated copy of the OS. When i get money on hand, I'll buy windows 8.1. what about that?

 

[barto]

yeah about the OS. Am thinking of going with the 270 for the time being and installing a pirated copy of the OS. When i get money on hand, I'll buy windows 8.1. what about that?

I can't offer any suggestions on that. It's against forum rules to provide help with pirating software. Sorry you're on your own with that one. I can simply say, buy Windows.

 

[Shivam15]

yeah about the OS. Am thinking of going with the 270 for the time being and installing a pirated copy of the OS. When i get money on hand, I'll buy windows 8.1. what about that?

I can't offer any suggestions on that. It's against forum rules to provide help with pirating software. Sorry you're on your own with that one. I can simply say, buy Windows.

i have two copies of original windows that came with my laptops but i think they pretty much tied to them and won't work on my build.

 

[Shivam15]

For the Memory i think i will go with G.skill Ripjaws X 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL). Its cheaper and G.skill is trusted

 

[barto]

For the Memory i think i will go with G.skill Ripjaws X 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL). Its cheaper and G.skill is trusted

You should really go for 2 x 4 modules for Dual channel RAM.

 

[Shivam15]

For the Memory i think i will go with G.skill Ripjaws X 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL). Its cheaper and G.skill is trusted

You should really go for 2 x 4 modules for Dual channel RAM.

Yeah ive opted for kingston hyper X (2 x 4gb) ddr3 1600mhz .
Now am concerned with the psu . Whether i should go with corsair cx500 or cx 500m. I think i will go with cx 500

 

[barto]

Yeah ive opted for kingston hyper X (2 x 4gb) ddr3 1600mhz .
Now am concerned with the psu . Whether i should go with corsair cx500 or cx 500m. I think i will go with cx 500

One's semi-modular the other isn't. Module=plug in the cables you only need. Semi-modular= 3 or 3 cables are connected (power for mobo, cpu and 2 PCIe connections [graphic cards]). Non-modular = every cable that comes with the PSU is permanently connecting. Thus more cables to tie up for better cooling. I'd go with the CX500m.

 

[varun_02]

For the Memory i think i will go with G.skill Ripjaws X 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL). Its cheaper and G.skill is trusted

i guess you are an indian.
If u are then dont go for gskill as it has warranty issues in our country (thats why nobody sells it in shops except for online).
Go for something reliable like corsair.
One cant neglect warranty.

 

[Shivam15]

Yeah ive opted for kingston hyper X (2 x 4gb) ddr3 1600mhz .
Now am concerned with the psu . Whether i should go with corsair cx500 or cx 500m. I think i will go with cx 500

One's semi-modular the other isn't. Module=plug in the cables you only need. Semi-modular= 3 or 3 cables are connected (power for mobo, cpu and 2 PCIe connections [graphic cards]). Non-modular = every cable that comes with the PSU is permanently rconnecting. Thus more cables to tie up for better cooling. I'd go with the CX500m.

Yeah well but the cx 500 is already in the mail now. Too late

 

[Shivam15]

For the Memory i think i will go with G.skill Ripjaws X 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL). Its cheaper and G.skill is trusted

i guess you are an indian.
If u are then dont go for gskill as it has warranty issues in our country (thats why nobody sells it in shops except for online).
Go for something reliable like corsair.
One cant neglect warranty.

Yeah Varun, am an indian. And yes I've dropped the G.Skill and going with the Kingston hyperX.

Am getting most of the components through flip kart, eBay and theitdepot
Might as well go to the Nehru place here in delhi and see if I can get some price cuts

 

[varun_02]

For the Memory i think i will go with G.skill Ripjaws X 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL). Its cheaper and G.skill is trusted

i guess you are an indian.
If u are then dont go for gskill as it has warranty issues in our country (thats why nobody sells it in shops except for online).
Go for something reliable like corsair.
One cant neglect warranty.

Yeah Varun, am an indian. And yes I've dropped the G.Skill and going with the Kingston hyperX.

Am getting most of the components through flip kart, eBay and theitdepot
Might as well go to the Nehru place here in delhi and see if I can get some price cuts

Go to nehru place.
I just went yesterday and components there are very cheap as compared to online.
Flipkart is very expensive.

 

[Shivam15]

For the Memory i think i will go with G.skill Ripjaws X 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL). Its cheaper and G.skill is trusted

i guess you are an indian.
If u are then dont go for gskill as it has warranty issues in our country (thats why nobody sells it in shops except for online).
Go for something reliable like corsair.
One cant neglect warranty.

Yeah Varun, am an indian. And yes I've dropped the G.Skill and going with the Kingston hyperX.

Am getting most of the components through flip kart, eBay and theitdepot
Might as well go to the Nehru place here in delhi and see if I can get some price cuts

Go to nehru place.
I just went yesterday and components there are very cheap as compared to online.
Flipkart is very expensive.

Seriously? thats good news because flipkart is the cheapest online. Any Vendors or shops you'd recommend ?

 

[varun_02]

For the Memory i think i will go with G.skill Ripjaws X 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3 1600MHz Desktop RAM (F3-12800CL10S-8GBXL). Its cheaper and G.skill is trusted

i guess you are an indian.
If u are then dont go for gskill as it has warranty issues in our country (thats why nobody sells it in shops except for online).
Go for something reliable like corsair.
One cant neglect warranty.

Yeah Varun, am an indian. And yes I've dropped the G.Skill and going with the Kingston hyperX.

Am getting most of the components through flip kart, eBay and theitdepot
Might as well go to the Nehru place here in delhi and see if I can get some price cuts

Go to nehru place.
I just went yesterday and components there are very cheap as compared to online.
Flipkart is very expensive.

Seriously? thats good news because flipkart is the cheapest online. Any Vendors or shops you'd recommend ?

These are the 4 cheapest shops :
1) Computer empire
2) SMC international
3) Ashoka computers
4) Vipin computers

But if you want to buy everything from one shop then there is a Cost to Cost store which can provide you everything.
They will give you discount if you will buy more than one product from them.
Discount is directly proportional to number of products you buy.