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Everyone feels that oil is overpriced now. Isn't there a chance it has been
UNDERpriced for years, and is now just rising to a normal level? Just
because it is higher than it used to be, doesn't make it overpriced. Oil is
double what it cost 15 years ago. I can name many items that cost 2x more
now than they did 15 years ago.
"Docrotcod" <rahbart@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UyYKe.77$P34.19@okepread07...
> You know, I agree with you 100%. It's almost like you were riding with me
> the other day when I was talking to my buddy. I was saying about how much
> of an impact if consumers would strike for even one day across the nation
> of how MUCH that would impact them.
>
> I think a clear message needs to be sent. We won't take this and we know
> we're getting screwed. It just pisses me off when I have to fill up and
> see what i'm paying.
>
> There has to be some regulation in place and I for one feel like we are
> all getting taken advantage of.
>
> Thomas
>
> "Zinfer" <rmassman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42fc3178.960845265@news-server.woh.rr.com...
>> Does anyone else feel the oil companies are really pushing it too far?
>> Going over the edge with the whole oil prices gig?
>> I guess the norm would be to say, well you gotta pay it...what are you
>> going to do?
>> Hmm. Well scrap the vacation. So much for that long road trip. Get
>> rid of the SUV. Work 4 10 hour days instead of 5 8's. Remove the
>> commute by moving or getting a closer job. Telecommute? Public
>> Transport, bus and train. Just to name a few. If this is a long term
>> thing-which I think it is (I don't see prices going back down) then
>> were in for alot of trouble. Anyone else think we'll see $1 something
>> for gas again?
>> Not sure why they don't glut the market with the Strategic Petroleum
>> reserve to drive the prices back down. Well, then again I gotta
>> consider who we have in office right now then I guess it puts it all
>> into perspective. Wouldn't want to separate his buddies from their
>> record profits.
>> The people that actually work for a living at the refineries aren't
>> getting rich, that's for sure. Guess it's just the execs pocketing
>> all of it since they don't want to put anything into building more
>> refineries, which should drive prices even higher since we just CAN'T
>> keep up with demand. They'll have it up to 3.00 before summer's out.
>> And then my oh my, another excuse among the plethora of them to jack
>> prices because heaven forbid, low and behold it just might get cold
>> outside. Wow, now that's unexpected! We just might not be able to
>> keep up with demand. Demand? 20 or 30 years ago I'd have agreed that
>> we used more. I used to have to pump 20 to 30 gallons a week in my
>> Ford LTD Broham. Now with compact lightweight all aluminum, plastic
>> and fabricated autos I maybe use half that and travel further. So I
>> use less. Therefore the price is more?
>> Off on a tangent I think that even if we burned 1 gallon a week the
>> price of the gallon would then be $20 to $30. They can't be beat.
>> I'll wager even switching to the new Hydrogen engine won't work. The
>> fuel (now known as energy) companies will get their fingers in it,
>> We'll be filling up at a BP (renamed to BE) or Speedway and we'll have
>> the very same charade.
>> I don't believe it's supply and demand. I feel it's artificial S&D.
>> Produce less to drive up prices. I believe it's pure and raw as well
>> as legalized employee theft by the Corporate CEO's, execs and managers
>> raiding pension funds, employee benefits, 401k's, general and overtime
>> wages yet not sacrificing 1 iota themselves.
>> With imported and exported cheap labor driving wages down and energy
>> barrens driving prices up I don't see how things can improve. But
>> maybe it's just an Ohio thing. Maybe things aren't like this all over?
>> If there were a way all of us could work together it'd be a cinch, but
>> we can't even go 1 day without buying fuel. That's asking just way
>> too much.
>> Wow! What a thing a fuel boycott would be to see happen. Shew!
>> Now the look on an oil execs face would be just priceless. A day that
>> everyone just has had it up to here with this. A day? A week? Dare I
>> say a Month? WOW! Could you imagine all hell breaking loose? Prices
>> plummeting to what-60 cents/gallon? Aw the poor poor oil barrens.
>> Yep, I know, couldn't happen. Can't even go a single day. Still it'd
>> be fun.
>> Knowing how the two are joined at the hip an executive order would
>> probably be issued that if we don't buy gas were going to be sent to
>> Guantanamo Bay for our conspiracy in affecting our national security.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:47:02 -0400, "ProStreet36"
>> <prostreet36@rcn.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The difference here is the average worker commutes 15-20 miles per day
>>>just
>>>to go to work. I travel 23 miles one way! My fuel costs add up very
>>>quickly. In the UK, 100 miles is a long way, in the US, 100 years is a
>>>long
>>>time.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>"Martin White" <guddler@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1123576313.483901.80900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>You guys crack me up big time when you start whinging about the price
>>>of your fuel!!
>>>
>>>Assuming the $2.55 is per gallon, that's around about 5 litres i think.
>>>
>>>We're on £0.95 per litre, which to round it up to round figures puts
>>>us up at around about the $10 per gallon price mark. Maybe $8 or $9 if
>>>we're lucky.
>>>
>>>Yesterday i took a 5 hour round trip to deliver some fixed PCBs and
>>>pick up some chips (and obviously spend a pleasent day with another
>>>collector, that would have been insanity otherwise).
>>>
>>>Two weeks ago i did a two hour detour on top of another 5 hour round
>>>trip for a Space Invaders mirror and a B&W monitor.
>>>
>>>I have been known to do a 10 hour round trip for a Tron cab once too. 4
>>>or 5 hour round trips are about the norm.
>>>
>>>If you don't make the effort, you don't get anywhere!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Martin.
>>>PS: I drive a car that costs £50 per tank of fuel too (roughly $100).
>>>And, NO, I'm not loaded!!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Everyone feels that oil is overpriced now. Isn't there a chance it has been
UNDERpriced for years, and is now just rising to a normal level? Just
because it is higher than it used to be, doesn't make it overpriced. Oil is
double what it cost 15 years ago. I can name many items that cost 2x more
now than they did 15 years ago.
"Docrotcod" <rahbart@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UyYKe.77$P34.19@okepread07...
> You know, I agree with you 100%. It's almost like you were riding with me
> the other day when I was talking to my buddy. I was saying about how much
> of an impact if consumers would strike for even one day across the nation
> of how MUCH that would impact them.
>
> I think a clear message needs to be sent. We won't take this and we know
> we're getting screwed. It just pisses me off when I have to fill up and
> see what i'm paying.
>
> There has to be some regulation in place and I for one feel like we are
> all getting taken advantage of.
>
> Thomas
>
> "Zinfer" <rmassman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42fc3178.960845265@news-server.woh.rr.com...
>> Does anyone else feel the oil companies are really pushing it too far?
>> Going over the edge with the whole oil prices gig?
>> I guess the norm would be to say, well you gotta pay it...what are you
>> going to do?
>> Hmm. Well scrap the vacation. So much for that long road trip. Get
>> rid of the SUV. Work 4 10 hour days instead of 5 8's. Remove the
>> commute by moving or getting a closer job. Telecommute? Public
>> Transport, bus and train. Just to name a few. If this is a long term
>> thing-which I think it is (I don't see prices going back down) then
>> were in for alot of trouble. Anyone else think we'll see $1 something
>> for gas again?
>> Not sure why they don't glut the market with the Strategic Petroleum
>> reserve to drive the prices back down. Well, then again I gotta
>> consider who we have in office right now then I guess it puts it all
>> into perspective. Wouldn't want to separate his buddies from their
>> record profits.
>> The people that actually work for a living at the refineries aren't
>> getting rich, that's for sure. Guess it's just the execs pocketing
>> all of it since they don't want to put anything into building more
>> refineries, which should drive prices even higher since we just CAN'T
>> keep up with demand. They'll have it up to 3.00 before summer's out.
>> And then my oh my, another excuse among the plethora of them to jack
>> prices because heaven forbid, low and behold it just might get cold
>> outside. Wow, now that's unexpected! We just might not be able to
>> keep up with demand. Demand? 20 or 30 years ago I'd have agreed that
>> we used more. I used to have to pump 20 to 30 gallons a week in my
>> Ford LTD Broham. Now with compact lightweight all aluminum, plastic
>> and fabricated autos I maybe use half that and travel further. So I
>> use less. Therefore the price is more?
>> Off on a tangent I think that even if we burned 1 gallon a week the
>> price of the gallon would then be $20 to $30. They can't be beat.
>> I'll wager even switching to the new Hydrogen engine won't work. The
>> fuel (now known as energy) companies will get their fingers in it,
>> We'll be filling up at a BP (renamed to BE) or Speedway and we'll have
>> the very same charade.
>> I don't believe it's supply and demand. I feel it's artificial S&D.
>> Produce less to drive up prices. I believe it's pure and raw as well
>> as legalized employee theft by the Corporate CEO's, execs and managers
>> raiding pension funds, employee benefits, 401k's, general and overtime
>> wages yet not sacrificing 1 iota themselves.
>> With imported and exported cheap labor driving wages down and energy
>> barrens driving prices up I don't see how things can improve. But
>> maybe it's just an Ohio thing. Maybe things aren't like this all over?
>> If there were a way all of us could work together it'd be a cinch, but
>> we can't even go 1 day without buying fuel. That's asking just way
>> too much.
>> Wow! What a thing a fuel boycott would be to see happen. Shew!
>> Now the look on an oil execs face would be just priceless. A day that
>> everyone just has had it up to here with this. A day? A week? Dare I
>> say a Month? WOW! Could you imagine all hell breaking loose? Prices
>> plummeting to what-60 cents/gallon? Aw the poor poor oil barrens.
>> Yep, I know, couldn't happen. Can't even go a single day. Still it'd
>> be fun.
>> Knowing how the two are joined at the hip an executive order would
>> probably be issued that if we don't buy gas were going to be sent to
>> Guantanamo Bay for our conspiracy in affecting our national security.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:47:02 -0400, "ProStreet36"
>> <prostreet36@rcn.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The difference here is the average worker commutes 15-20 miles per day
>>>just
>>>to go to work. I travel 23 miles one way! My fuel costs add up very
>>>quickly. In the UK, 100 miles is a long way, in the US, 100 years is a
>>>long
>>>time.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>>
>>>
>>>"Martin White" <guddler@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1123576313.483901.80900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>You guys crack me up big time when you start whinging about the price
>>>of your fuel!!
>>>
>>>Assuming the $2.55 is per gallon, that's around about 5 litres i think.
>>>
>>>We're on £0.95 per litre, which to round it up to round figures puts
>>>us up at around about the $10 per gallon price mark. Maybe $8 or $9 if
>>>we're lucky.
>>>
>>>Yesterday i took a 5 hour round trip to deliver some fixed PCBs and
>>>pick up some chips (and obviously spend a pleasent day with another
>>>collector, that would have been insanity otherwise).
>>>
>>>Two weeks ago i did a two hour detour on top of another 5 hour round
>>>trip for a Space Invaders mirror and a B&W monitor.
>>>
>>>I have been known to do a 10 hour round trip for a Tron cab once too. 4
>>>or 5 hour round trips are about the norm.
>>>
>>>If you don't make the effort, you don't get anywhere!!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Martin.
>>>PS: I drive a car that costs £50 per tank of fuel too (roughly $100).
>>>And, NO, I'm not loaded!!!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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