k guys, i have a 4870 X2 brand new awsomeness. The only reason some of you are having a problem is because either you didn't download the update for ATI and crashes every few seconds to minutes and is a total pain (I know, I use to have the same thing). But all you have to do is just listen to it again when u reinstall it. It tells you to download an update. The only problem is that if the game keeps crashing on you, it'd be that your using XP and right now the games are mostly supported for Vista and that some things are bad on XP right now. The only real problem right now in GoW is that when you install it and try to log in, it tells you to update but even when you update it never works and you keep doing it and it keeps messing up. I know how to fix this problem now easily and Epic Games isn't going to give you a patch for something so small so go around on google and search this problem up, it will be out there. If your having performance problems and that it keeps crashing even after the update. 1. Your computer is too slow. 2. Your graphic card sucks and can't handle the graphics that GoW needs to work. 3. Your computer has software turned off to create better performance but messes up with the game. 4. Your computer is not compatible with GoW. 5. A Software your using are messing with the game. End List. This game really has no problems except for the log on update. This game, if you really get on it on pc, it's the quite abit better then XBOX 360. You have better performance if your computer is good, the graphics can be even better then XBOX 360 if your graphic card is good. Also you have better accuracy and the game is harder so it gives a really good challenge. Well, actually xbox is harder since u have to use a controller but ur accuracy is good so Epic Games made the game harder so its not like running around head shot everyone in the head. I tried xbox 360, total waste of money, you get an ok game and then u just spent $400 on it and then in the next 3 ~ 5 years you buy a new system that comes out and xbox 360 gets stuck in the basement and become collectors item in the next 40 years. A computer can be for a long period of time and have performance good enough to get some ok games to play with and play for like 20 years, than get a new one that costs like $1000 and wait for another 20years. The great thing of computers is that they last for a while unless the burn out and blow up (only usually happens if short circuit or you overclock it). New computers can come out and you don't have to care because if your computer is good enough to play a game and have good enough graphics to play a good game, then why by another one? XBOX 360 fans not an offence to you but you guys are wasting all that money, and then just going to stick it in the basement for collectors or what ever in the next 5 years. Computers are the worlds biggest things and nothing can change that; it can handle way more then a hunk of xbox can and can last longer.