GeForce GTS 450 O/C Roundup: Six Custom-Tuned Cards

[palitusa]

I'm very surprise Tomshardware did not include Palit GTS 450 Sonic Platinum which is clocked faster than all 6 of these companies.

With a 930mhz clock.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/palit_gts450_sonic_platinum/17.htm

 

[LORD_ORION]

[citation][nom]Palitusa[/nom]I'm very surprise Tomshardware did not include Palit GTS 450 Sonic Platinum which is clocked faster than all 6 of these companies.With a 930mhz clock.http://www.overclockersclub.com/re [...] num/17.htm[/citation]

I'm not, it costs the same as a basic GTX 460...

 

[palitusa]

It's $139.99 at Newegg.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261081&cm_re=palit_GTS_450-_-14-261-081-_-Product

The GTX460 basic is $169.99...That is a $30 difference.

 

[LORD_ORION]

[citation][nom]Palitusa[/nom]It's $139.99 at Newegg.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-ProductThe GTX460 basic is $169.99...That is a $30 difference.[/citation]

Rebates don't count.

Here is a GTX 460 for $159.95 with a $20 rebate brining it to 139.95 (assuming you ever get the rebate)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162058

You are fail...

 

[LORD_ORION]

Also... preemptive argument. Not only should people never buy one of the overclocked 450s, they should probably wait until November to get a card because there will probably be a further $10-20 reduction in pricing.

My understanding how things are going to/were planned to unfold soon in the fight for Christmas $$$.

Nvidia preps GTX 485 for 6xxx launch
67xx series rebranded to 68xx -> Cost less but performs the same as 58xx

AMD pressures the mainstream On OCT 22nd with 6850/6870
Nvidia drops prices to match price performance (so GTX 460 around $140-150 GTS 450 becomes 100-109)
Nvidia releases GTX 485 and claims top performance spot by a large margin (both performance and price)

Chrismas Shopping Frenzy Ensues

AMD releases 69xx (what were originally 68xx)
Nvidia drops GTX 485 and 460 1GB prices to match price / performance

Christmas Shopping Frenzy is over

AMD releases 2X 69xx, but comes to late for Christmas sales hype and does not hurt Nvidia's now adjusted pricing and thus sales.

Nvidia is OK, they made good margins across all segments by dodging AMD's superior products, and then maintained sales with help from astounding performing (but really expensive) GTX485 hype, and then matching price performance in other segments.

If it unfolds like this, Nvidia planned it out and played it well.

If the GTX485 comes too late, Nvidia might have a problem, because people will be talking about 68xx performance instead of GTX 485 performance, and the 2X 69xx board will also demolish all performance perceptions.

 

[tom thumb]

If the GTX485 comes too late, Nvidia might have a problem, because people will be talking about 68xx performance instead of GTX 485 performance, and the 2X 69xx board will also demolish all performance perceptions.

2x69xx? You gotta be making that up...

 

[dEAne]

MSI for me asus if I got extra. Thank you toms for this article.

 

[wa1]

Yeah, skip this GTS450 and get GTX460, it will be more budget-performance wise...

 

[LORD_ORION]

[citation][nom]tom thumb[/nom]2x69xx? You gotta be making that up...[/citation]

The Antilles board is not a secret, it is on the roadmap. It is a dual board, model 6990.

 

[10tacle]

"Normally, we consider a lifetime warranty to be worth around $20 more than a 3-year warranty, and that valuation would put Zotac in the lead."

I don't know what the hoopla is about a "lifetime" guarantee with a video card. I've got about 8 video cards from the first AGP GeForce (Riva 128) to one of the last AGP cards (7800GS) to an HD4870 sitting in a storage container.

Within 3 years, my cards either get sold or moved to the older computers and then eventually put out to pasture for life.

 

[bobwya]

MEH to the 450. But thanks to THG for the nod to 'international information' (for a change!!)

 

[f-14]

anybody notice the PhysX on the MSI board screen shot was unchecked?
once again GTS450 proving $20-30 more for the GTX460 is worth twice the performance for one card and still beaten by a 9800GTX,even if it's stuck with directX9, 9800's $40-50 cheaper. so nvidia thinks $50 is the extra cost for new directX support, take it away AMD the stage is all yours in this price range.

 

[f-14]

also anybody know when the GTX400 series version of the 295 will release?

 

[iamtheking123]

This will probably get burned with red very quickly, but to me spending extra to buy a factory tuned but still crappy card is like throwing on a huge exhaust system on a Ford Fiesta and thinking you're a racer. Yeah with a 450 overclocked you might get 20% more fps, but does 22 fps vs 20 fps really matter?

 

[bobwya]

[citation][nom]iamtheking123[/nom]... Yeah with a 450 overclocked you might get 20% more fps, but does 22 fps vs 20 fps really matter?[/citation]

Well it might, but if had a 460 (768) for roughly the same price churning out 25+ fps... Wait for the 450 to drop to the price range it belongs in (GTS 250).

 

[redraider89]

[citation][nom]tom thumb[/nom]Cause' this is Nvidia - it's all about bang for your buck.[/citation]

Is this comment trying to be tongue-in-cheek? Nvidia, the company who relabeled the same cards multiple times, (as in when Creative relabeled the same sound cards until Aureal exposed their scam)and their multiple relabeling of cards and charging you like they are new cards? Nvidia - bang for your buck (unless you count a bang up job on your energy bill for power draw and required additional home air conditioning) it is not.

 

[redraider89]

[citation][nom]LORD_ORION[/nom]Also... preemptive argument. Not only should people never buy one of the overclocked 450s, they should probably wait until November to get a card because there will probably be a further $10-20 reduction in pricing.My understanding how things are going to/were planned to unfold soon in the fight for Christmas $$$.Nvidia preps GTX 485 for 6xxx launch67xx series rebranded to 68xx -> Cost less but performs the same as 58xxAMD pressures the mainstream On OCT 22nd with 6850/6870Nvidia drops prices to match price performance (so GTX 460 around $140-150 GTS 450 becomes 100-109)Nvidia releases GTX 485 and claims top performance spot by a large margin (both performance and price)Chrismas Shopping Frenzy EnsuesAMD releases 69xx (what were originally 68xx)Nvidia drops GTX 485 and 460 1GB prices to match price / performanceChristmas Shopping Frenzy is overAMD releases 2X 69xx, but comes to late for Christmas sales hype and does not hurt Nvidia's now adjusted pricing and thus sales. Nvidia is OK, they made good margins across all segments by dodging AMD's superior products, and then maintained sales with help from astounding performing (but really expensive) GTX485 hype, and then matching price performance in other segments.If it unfolds like this, Nvidia planned it out and played it well.If the GTX485 comes too late, Nvidia might have a problem, because people will be talking about 68xx performance instead of GTX 485 performance, and the 2X 69xx board will also demolish all performance perceptions.[/citation]

Where is the documentation about performance, benchmarks, particuarly the claim that "67xx series rebranded to 68xx, Cost less but performs the same as 58xx"? Or is all this just speculation?

 

[LORD_ORION]

It is not documented, it was said during the AMD press conference that they are being rebranded.

You can find "leaked" documents everywhere though. If you look at the "67xx" series specs found here on tom's, you will see they are very similar to the current 58xx cards (if you were building a cost effective version of them)

I guess we can wait until tomorrow, but the rebranding does make sense since the 57xx cards are not going away anytime soon. (but the 58x cards are in favor for higher margins)

So the new lineup will be 57xx -> 68xx / 58xx -> 69xx which is consumer friendly, and follows price / performance.

Look at the alternate
57xx -> 67xx / 58xx -> 68xx

That is not friendly at all if your plan is to make less technically inclined people buy 6xxx series cards which will have way higher margins.

 

[LORD_ORION]

Check out newegg, you can see the boards now

 

[LORD_ORION]

and... heh, look at those prices.

$100 less for a 6870 over 5870

I cannot wait to see benchmarks

 

[hythos]

I've had pretty good luck in the past 2 years with rebates;
Last fall I purchased 2 EVGA 250's for $100 with a $40 rebate on each; I got the rebate debit card in less than a month (my girlfriend got the other).

Just this weekend, I grabbed an Asus GTS450 CU-card for $139 with a $25 MIR for ~$130 after tax. Even if I went with Newegg's price for a GTX460, it'll still be ~$30-40 more.


Yeah, it's not a huge difference - about the cost of going out to lunch a couple times one week. But I'm use'n the 450 in an attempt to build a some-what budget-system for my cousin.

 

[gammatnt]

i just got the MSI gts 450 from newegg. it was overclocked but not the cyclone version. But it was $95 after rebate. I used the Afterburner that came with it to overclock it to 933mhz and memory to 2155mhz. also up the voltage to 1125mV

I got 10140 for GPU score in 3dmark Vantage. I am getting 2 more these baby. I heard u gain up to 190% performance when SLI them.

 

[g00fysmiley]

got the asus for 120 this weekend and another 12 saved combo discounted twith a good corsair psu which was also on sale (tx650w)

 

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