GeForce GTX 480 And 470: From Fermi And GF100 To Actual Cards!

[razercultmember1]

Wow...Nvidia fail

 

[jimishtar]

one thing is clear: this round goes for the red. sorry nvidia.

 

[Zijn]

How about a watercooled solution?..

I know its abit early for that.. But at 90+ degrees i can have a constant supply of boiled water for noodles or tea or something!

For people saying they will switch because of this. YES if you have been waiting for a long time and have a mid - low range, also if DX11 is SO important for you. By all means sounds like a great idea.

My girlfriend actually said she would get me a 480 when they came out (lucky me !) but I have SLi 275's and they are fine, not warrenting a move to another company because of a slip up (DX11 hasnt matured enough for my lyking). Ive been a Nvid guy for a long time and i just hope they come out with something to fix this fast.

They have amazing ideas they just need to polish it off

 

[razercultmember1]

well now i can afford my gtx 285!

 

[cangelini]

[citation][nom]brennon7[/nom]3 screen BENCHMARKS IN ALL REVIEWS FROM NOW ON!!!!!! 5760 x 1080 This single monitor crap is pointless. NO difference in 200fps and 60fps on a monitors that refresh at 60hz[/citation]

No drivers yet, as mentioned in the review

 

[winuwinu]

[citation][nom]rage machine[/nom]I am so disappointed. I have been using Nvidia since the 6000 series and, unfortunately for them, i will be purchasing an ATI card next. [/citation]

'Unfortunately for them' And how do you justify saying that? Just wondering.

 

[qwertymac93]

oh god, its r600 vs g80 all over again! except it's nvidia getting beat with the ugly stick... maybe nvidia will pull an rv670 and release the gtx580 at half the price, but with the same performance?

 

[tpi2007]

[citation][nom]spoofedpacket[/nom]If you think Nvidia's stock is going to move anywhere over a gaming video card, you've got a lot to learn about Nvidia.[/citation]

Well, you see, the problem here is, they are not exactly touting this card as a mere gaming card, but also as the future of GPGPU. So, yes, I stand by what I said, it won't do brilliantly on Monday. I didn't say it was going to fall abruptly, but the cards do not live up to the hype. They're simply terribly inneficient. Will people buy it ? Sure, if they can get their hand on one to begin with. But have no doubts, this is the Pentium 4 Prescott v2.0. Too hot, too expensive, minor performance gains in comparison. As it is they live up more to the rumors leading to today's presentation than to the hype.

 

[twztechman]

I see no reason to upgrade from my ATI 5870. I have finally been able to run my games at 2560x1600. Although there is a little bit of a performance increase with the Fermi, the power and heat I see as a problem.

 

[cybot_x1024]

Ha! GTX 480 comes with a super-cool special egg fryer!(exposed super-hot sink) Suck on that ATI!

 

[CaptainBib]

Don't judge them too harshly now, it still beats the 5870, albeit not by much. These are crippled cards though, wait to see how the original Fermi card, a gtx 485, performs and then jump down Nvidia's throat.

This isn't the card Nvidia hyped to the moon, TMSC killed that card.

 

[imageraiter]

The people at AMD/ATI are probably having a massive party now.

 

[brennon7]

[citation][nom]cangelini[/nom]No drivers yet, as mentioned in the review[/citation]

Well I guess I might of noticed that if I actually read the article instead of just looking at the benchmarks.

So in other words Nvidia and 3 monitors= fail

Well done! (starts clapping)

 

[eddieroolz]

It's a bit of a meh for me. Good baseline performance but most people focus instead on the highest frame number, so obviously it comes off looking worse than it should be in my opinion. However I do find the power consumption unacceptable though.

I'm not in the market for a new card for at least another year, so we'll see what happens a year from now. Though if I was forced to buy either the HD5000 or GF100, I'd still choose the GF100 for its CUDA support.

 

[jamezrp]

A bit disappointing. I've got a 4870x2 and a GTX 275...looks like I still have no need to upgrade whatsoever. Good for my wallet, I guess.

 

[micky_lund]

What about the bad? Well, getting your feet in the door here costs $350. A flagship GeForce GTX 480 runs $500. Radeon HD 5850s recently dropped back down to $300 and Radeon HD 5870s can be found around $400.

Ouch...the radeons here are as low as $499 (5870), and like $370 for a XFX 5850 XXX edition (massively reduced, but still). Thats in aus, and we have pretty good supply for the low end, just not the 5970 that everyone (with a few grand) wants.
Hate to see what the nVidia cards are going to cost, even tho im not buying one...

 

[tipmen]

[citation][nom]CaptainBib[/nom]Don't judge them too harshly now, it still beats the 5870, albeit not by much. These are crippled cards though, wait to see how the original Fermi card, a gtx 485, performs and then jump down Nvidia's throat.This isn't the card Nvidia hyped to the moon, TMSC killed that card.[/citation]


Then we will have 5890s or the new shiny 6000 series

 

[JackNaylorPE]

I was anxious to see how they all stacked up against each other in DX11 with max effects .... which was hindered a bit because:

a) Dirt2 was tested only in DX9 cause of a detection glitch
b) STALKER was in DX10 cause they wanted Dx10

Here's a table of comparisons @ 1920 x 1200:

Basically looking for how much % Performance Increase costs you with the corresponding increase in price. For example....in Heaven Benchmark, the 470 looks good as it gets a 21% increase in performance over the next card in the list at a corresponding price decrease of 17%....in Metro, the 5850 looks good cause it gets an 11% increase in performance at a price decrease of 13%. Chart list the Card Name / Card Price / Benchmark Result at 1920 x 1200 / % Faster than the next card below it in table / Price Increase over next card in table. Anytime the last number is reasonably close to or less than the % faster, that's a very good thing.

Card / Price / Heaven / % Faster / % Price Incr.
ATI 5970 $725 56.80 5.97% 45.00%
nVid 480 $500 53.60 25.82% 42.86%
nVid 470 $350 42.60 20.68% -16.67%
ATI 5870 $420 35.30 16.12% 37.70%
ATI 5850 $305 30.40


Card / Price / STALKER 4AA / % Faster / % Price Incr.
ATI 5970 $725 67.92 24.24% 45.00%
nVid 480 $500 54.67 17.44% 19.05%
ATI 5870 $420 46.55 7.83% 20.00%
nVid 470 $350 43.17 9.93% 14.75%
ATI 5850 $305 39.27


Card / Price / Dirt2 4AA / % Faster / % Price Incr.
ATI 5970 $725 127.20 29.66% 45.00%
nVid 480 $500 98.10 23.09% 42.86%
nVid 470 $350 79.70 5.70% -16.67%
ATI 5870 $420 75.40 6.80% 37.70%
ATI 5850 $305 70.60


Card / Price / BFBC2 8AA / % Faster / % Price Incr.
ATI 5970 $725 87.06 11.06% 45.00%
nVid 480 $500 78.39 24.73% 42.86%
nVid 470 $350 62.85 1.93% -16.67%
ATI 5870 $420 61.66 16.30% 37.70%
ATI 5850 $305 53.02


Card / Price / Metro 2033 / % Faster / % Price Incr.
ATI 5970 $725 48.70 27.49% 45.00%
nVid 480 $500 38.20 21.77% 19.05%
ATI 5870 $420 31.37 17.89% 37.70%
ATI 5850 $305 26.61 10.60% -12.86%
nVid 470 $350 24.06

No commentary (I leave that to others), just the numbers. And keep in mind this was a look towards the future focusing on DX11 and max effects....any buyer must consider there's only a handful of DX11 games on the market at this point.

 

[verun]

This is really great. Was waiting for this for almost too long now. Can't wait to get my fingers on the EVGA GTX 480 HydroCoppers now.

Even if the Fermi cards had been slower then the Cypresses, I'd still have bought them. The drivers are just a pain and after 5 burned non overclocked Radeon's I'm finished with ATI for a while.

Happy the GTX 480 blows the competition away. And this all with beta drivers while ATI had time to get their drivers perfect.

I'm glad I had the patience not to buy the 'other stuff'.

 

[imageraiter]

Also, I have a feeling ATI has something up their sleeves.

They have been too quiet recently...

Too quiet...

 

[Gian124]

[citation][nom]daniel266[/nom]Can we have some 2d Benchmark??and can you test these cards on Photoshop and autocad to see if the nvidia cards and the new cuda beats ati versions ??[/citation]

I'd be interested too since Photoshop CS5 uses GPU

 

[dominatorix]

why results are so different?
look at:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/03/26/nvidia_fermi_gtx_470_480_sli_review/8
Maybe ATI and NVIDIA can introduce in the near future the opportunity to try a video card, end the buyer to decide which video card to choose.

 

[gimmeausername]

First, thanks to folks at Toms for yet another excellent review!

I have had this concern ever since the 5870 and 5850 released last year which I'm still thinking about it when I see the performance hit taken by ATI 5000 series:

We all know that 5870 has approximately double resources of a single 4870. In essence, it should perform similarly to a 4870X2. However, 4870X2 has 2GB of GDDR5 or 1GB for each 4870 on the PCB. So the question is: Does it not make sense to give 5870 at least 2GB of GDDR5 memory? And I'm not talking about Eyefinity here. Even in normal use at 19x12 or 25x16, the 5870 could have really used that extra frame buffer and not suffered severe performance hit with AA enabled.

So what do you think: 5870 performance hit with AA is an architectural issue or due to the lack of GDDR5 memory? and Why?

 

[shin0bi272]

Hey I have a request. Can you benchmark the 480 vs a 5970 and a gtx 285 in a physx game? Warmonger is a free game you can get that uses physx extensively (its on the nvidia site in their physx download packs) and I want to see the performance of a gpu that doesnt do physx but has higher numbers in every other game vs the lack luster 480 that does support it.

I know no one buys games because they're physx but I am curios to see how the amd card performs in one.

 

[manitoublack]

"today’s preview comes off somewhat underwhelming after the build-up."

Dam right, I'm still rocking 2xGTX295's at 640MHz each and see no reason to invest in 2 new room heaters when the current ones work so well.

Crickets chip, wind blows, leave fall and Nvidia gets back to work.