News GeForce RTX 4080 Emerges at U.S. Retailer Starting at $1,199

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U.S. and overseas retailers have started listing Nvidia's GeForce RTX 4080 graphics cards.

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[-Fran-]

So this is the new normal?

$1200 for the second best GPU in the market?

Regards.

 

[PlaneInTheSky]

$1,199. So that will be €1.400 + insane electric bill.

pass, I'm not a millionaire.

 

[DavidLejdar]

I suppose I am kind of lucky in that I need a new screen first anyways (instead of currently 1080p 60Hz), as it will take a bit of time until I get one, and by that time, there will hopefully be some new-gen GPU at a bit lower price for 1440p gaming.

As for the power consumption, there will certainly be an increase upgrading GTX 1050 Ti (with 75W). To off-set that a bit, I am considering to run a dual-screen setup, with one screen hooked up to the MB and using the iGPU of the CPU, while turning off the GPU when not gaming (if it takes more power i.e. for browsing than the iGPU would).

But in any case, adding some 300W per hour of gaming, if I game 40 hours a month, that's 12 kWh a month extra, which comes at around the price of one pint (and I am in a tarif for my electricity to be sourced from renewables). Of course though, if I would be playing some older MMO 50 hours a week, then that electricity consumption could get a bit excessive, especially if a weaker GPU could run pretty much the same level of graphics at a lower wattage.

 

[sailorjeff]

I will wait and see what AMD reveals in a couple of days. The more different and competing cards on the market the more competition and prices will stop dropping. The scalpers have already dropped the price of the RTX 4090 card I was looking by a thousand dollars since its release. By the time the holidays are over prices may be getting back down near MSRP again. My RTX 3080 will make do for me until then.

 

[punkncat]

Admittedly, I didn't NEED the 2K/144 monitor I purchased, and I didn't NEED the 3070 I upgraded to from a 1080 previously. Doing so did create what I consider a fairly balanced system for my desires now and some time well beyond now. With that said, I paid $700 for BOTH of those items which was nice.

The current price norms are absolutely the result of someone on the decision making process hitting that crack pipe too hard. I very much hope that other consumers and their wallet agree with that perception and comments made here. Our dollar (not) spent will shake them back to rehab, er I mean reason.

 

[bit_user]

So this is the new normal?

$1200 for the second best GPU in the market?

Nvidia must be smoking too much of something California legalized a few years ago.

Wow, I guess we really need Intel to step up, with their next gen...

 

[bit_user]

As for the power consumption, there will certainly be an increase upgrading GTX 1050 Ti (with 75W). To off-set that a bit, I am considering to run a dual-screen setup, with one screen hooked up to the MB and using the iGPU of the CPU, while turning off the GPU when not gaming (if it takes more power i.e. for browsing than the iGPU would).

dGPUs usually don't use much power, for stuff like web browsing. Even if you have some video ads playing, it shouldn't be much at all. If your old monitor has a CFL backlight, it might actually burn more power than your GPU, during those activities.

But in any case, adding some 300W per hour of gaming, if I game 40 hours a month, that's 12 kWh a month extra, which comes at around the price of one pint (and I am in a tarif for my electricity to be sourced from renewables). Of course though, if I would be playing some older MMO 50 hours a week, then that electricity consumption could get a bit excessive, especially if a weaker GPU could run pretty much the same level of graphics at a lower wattage.

If you're worried about power usage, you can dial back your GPU without too much impact on frame rates.

Improving Nvidia RTX 4090 Efficiency Through Power Limiting

We tested the 4090 Founders Edition at 50% to 120% power limits

www.tomshardware.com

At 60% power, Jarred got 90% as many FPS across his 8-game benchmark.

I would also advise experimenting with limiting the PL2 setting of your CPU (or equivalent, if AMD).

 

[hotaru251]

im sorry but if nvidia's price creep is at such a steep hill anymore...imma just go to amd or do 3rd party old gpu's.

also I could see it push many gaming people to consoles (as why spend 1000$ on a gpu alone when can just buy a $400 console and enjoy games?)

 

[BX4096]

Nvidia must be smoking too much of something California legalized a few years ago.

The problem is not Nvidia but the suckers who keep buying these cards at such outrageous prices. I'm not even sure that's it's really the rich who are buying them, and not a bunch of spoiled, fame-seeking streamers who keep maxing out their parents' credit cards in order to show off their new shiny thing.

So this is the new normal? $1200 for the second best GPU in the market?

I think we both will agree: there's nothing normal about this at all.

 

[Alvar "Miles" Udell]

And knowing AMD their version of the 3080 will be priced at $1100 so...Collusion!

 

[LolaGT]

Hahaha!
Step right up and buy this genuine, I said genuine peach of a deal, where else can you get a $700 card for the low low scam.....I mean deal of a price at $1200?

Someone has to fleece the suckers, and I guess big green figured it might as well be them.

 

[InvalidError]

Nvidia must be smoking too much of something California legalized a few years ago.

Wow, I guess we really need Intel to step up, with their next gen...

If we go by Intel's A770 ranking by price-performance, Intel appears to be shooting for second worst as the A750/770's MSRP only makes sense in a world where the RX6600 doesn't exist.

 

[spongiemaster]

It's highly amusing watching the posters here put on their surprised Pikachu face like they didn't see this price coming. $1200 is the MSRP Nvidia announced over a month ago. Why is anyone acting shocked at this point when it actually releases at that a price?

 

[2+2]

And knowing AMD their version of the 3080 will be priced at $1100 so...Collusion!

AMD 3080 for $1100?
Is that a subconscious slip
or do you really think AMD's 2nd tier card
is only going to be as fast as Nvidia's last generation 2nd tier?
Funny, and you never know with AMD.

 

[helper800]

Actual robber Baron levels of tomfoolery with prices as they are. The announced price of a month ago doesn't hit so hard until it actually releases and it is what they said it would be. Forever gone are the days of a 699.99 dollar XX80 ti cards here are the days of a XX70 tier card in the shoe box of a XX80 tier card for 1200 dollars...

 

[InvalidError]

Forever gone are the days of a 699.99 dollar XX80 ti cards here are the days of a XX70 tier card in the shoe box of a XX80 tier card for 1200 dollars...

Cheaper GPUs could come back, all it takes is mass rejection of GPUs at grossly inflated prices, preferably thanks to a new-entrant pricing its stuff to gain serious market share. Unfortunately, Intel appears almost every bit as greedy as Ngreedia.

 

[bit_user]

Cheaper GPUs could come back, all it takes is mass rejection of GPUs at grossly inflated prices, preferably thanks to a new-entrant pricing its stuff to gain serious market share. Unfortunately, Intel appears almost every bit as greedy as Ngreedia.

I figured it might be Chinese GPUs that bring pricing back to Earth. My thinking was perhaps by ~2025 or so. However, with them being shut out of <= 7nm fabs, perhaps that will be even longer.

Anyway, Intel has been pricing their CPUs rather competitively against AMD. So, they might be willing to have some pricing flexibility. I think what's hurt them with their current gen GPUs is that using TSMC gave them lower margins than they normally get from their own fabs. On top of that, they're getting worse performance per mm^2 than the competition (Wikipedia lists their die sizes, in case you want to check). Next, you have components they don't make like the VRMs and GDDR6 adding costs they don't control. Finally, most of the cards are made by their partners, who need their own markup. So, I think they're basically up against a wall, with ARC pricing - it probably can't go much lower, without selling at a loss.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_graphics_processing_units#Arc_Alchemist

 

[InvalidError]

So, I think they're basically up against a wall, with ARC pricing - it probably can't go much lower, without selling at a loss.

When you are the new kid on the block, selling at a loss is often the only way you'll get to sell anything at all. That games and productivity bundle must add quite a few dollars to Intel's costs. If you care about two of the five games eligible for bundling with the A380, you get a GPU for almost free, kind of like AMD with the RX570/580.

 

[bit_user]

That games and productivity bundle must add quite a few dollars to Intel's costs. If you care about two of the five games eligible for bundling with the A380, you get a GPU for almost free,

Yeah, but we know they don't pay anywhere near the retail price, for that software. I don't know anything about the eligible titles you reference, but I wonder if they're old enough that most people who'd have bought them would already have them, in which case Intel might've gotten them for pennies on the dollar.

 

[InvalidError]

Yeah, but we know they don't pay anywhere near the retail price, for that software. I don't know anything about the eligible titles you reference, but I wonder if they're old enough that most people who'd have bought them would already have them, in which case Intel might've gotten them for pennies on the dollar.

I'm guessing it is the same bunch of titles as the A750/770 promos: CoD:MWII, Ghostbusters Spirits Unleashed, Gotham Knights, The Settlers and apparently one more option beyond that. Pretty fresh stuff - the Settlers remake is still two months away from launch and Gotham Knights launched less than two weeks ago.

 

[Sleepy_Hollowed]

That price is just a no.

If they're accounting for less sales, sucks to be them, they're really not accounting for those of use not willing to buy at those prices.

If AMD will have similar prices, I'll survive with the 2015-2016 card I still have.

 

[btmedic04]

calling it now, the asus strix 4080 will be around $1500-$1600. I also called this generations pricing to be absurd back in November 2020 when people were paying scalpers $1500+ for a 3080 10gb. The ONLY way these prices come down is when consumers finally show their disgust by not purchasing these parts at these insane prices.

 

[escksu]

There won't be much scalping this time... Scalping was largely fuelled by mining craze back then. Now with mining gone, demand for these top end cards will be much lower.

 

[George³]

I figured it might be Chinese GPUs that bring pricing back to Earth. My thinking was perhaps by ~2025 or so. However, with them being shut out of <= 7nm fabs, perhaps that will be even longer.

Sorry for off but has a bit place for new conspiracy here. US government work against China on purpose to keep hardware prices high by foreclosing additional competitors. It's like being bribed by the corporations to do it.