Getting gtx670 OC Which of these 2?

[rikdogski]

Hello I am trying to decide between two MSI gtx670 OC graphics cards.

One is this $319.00 DOESN'T have FROZR IV cooling fans
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127675

And one is this $369.00 DOES have FROZR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127685

I'm curious if the cheaper one is as reliable as the more expensive. What do you guys think?

ThANK YOU

 

[bigcyco1]

Decisive answer: If you're not going to overclock go for the 670 with the twin frozr. If you are going to overclock get the 7950 sapphire vapor-x non boost.

+1

 

[bigcyco1]

Oh one more question please. If i don't overclock how much of a difference is there between cards? I know I'm a rookie and I really appreciate your knowledge

If not overclocked 7950 is 10 to 15% slower then 670 if overclocked it can be close and go either way i have seen 670 murder 7950 and i have seen 7950 murder 670 it all depends

 

[Limerick]

If not overclocked 7950 is 10 to 15% slower then 670 if overclocked it can be close and go either way i have seen 670 murder 7950 and i have seen 7950 murder 670 it all depends

They're pretty much on par now after the new driver update for AMD. It's an 1-2 fps lead the 7950 pulls in some games and vice versa for the 670.

 

[rikdogski]

Ok so I'm going with the HD7950 but what's the difference between the MSI I posted from amazon and the 7950 sapphire vapor-x non boost?

 

[bigcyco1]

They're pretty much on par now after the new driver update for AMD. It's an 1-2 fps lead the 7950 pulls in some games and vice versa for the 670.

Really weird not seeing this with my sons card maybe i should rma it my 670 beats it in all games but 3 we only own 8 different games btw.

 

[Limerick]

Really weird not seeing this with my sons card maybe i should rma it my 670 beats it in all games but 3

Mine are performing like a beauty right now. I have a +15% effectiveness. Unless your overclock is beating his. What's the fps difference? I'm going to also run a test with my friend to see the benchmark results at stock just for comparison with the benchmarks I saw at her house. I'll post them as soon as the test is done.

 

[bigcyco1]

Mine are performing like a beauty right now. I have a +15% effectiveness. Unless your overclock is beating his. What's the fps difference? I'm going to also run a test with my friend to see the benchmark results at stock just for comparison with the benchmarks I saw at her house. I'll post them as soon as the test is done.

Sounds good difference in fraps is more than 6 in all the games we have except 3 i will test it all again myself and post back later tonight

 

[Limerick]

Sounds good difference in fraps is more than 6 in all the games we have except 3 i will test it all again myself and post back later tonight

Oh yeah then it's your clock. Your son has a perfectly fine 7950. And I'm guessing that his already kills in games right now anyways.

 

[bigcyco1]

Oh yeah then it's your clock. Your son has a perfectly fine 7950. And I'm guessing that his already kills in games right now anyways.

o.k. cool and indeed it does well in most games we own some he can not max out but most he can @ 1920 x1080

 

[Limerick]

o.k. cool and indeed it does well in most games we own some he can not max out but most he can @ 1920 x1080

Heh yeah. I have mine crossfired. That paired with a 120MHz refresh rate monitro equals something really beautiful. And my cards get on average 135fps. That still beats the refresh rate on my monitor. I'm thinking this setup will last me another 3 gens hopefully. 4 if I milk it.

 

[bigcyco1]

Heh yeah. I have mine crossfired. That paired with a 120MHz refresh rate monitro equals something really beautiful. And my cards get on average 135fps. That still beats the refresh rate on my monitor. I'm thinking this setup will last me another 3 gens hopefully. 4 if I milk it.

Same here except i have two MSI 670 PE's this is my monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824014288&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=#top love it when gaming i feel like http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCUQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZD0z6LzUB04&ei=UXCUUI-vK4GGjALU7oDIAw&usg=AFQjCNH8zHOjDjf56GDE1MFO5V6FejlE0w&sig2=5q8lBE2e8WRwzvpZiBwUqQ&cad=rja how does that have anything to do with gaming i don't know

 

[rikdogski]

another question if you don't mind. The cards that are the OC version come with software to OC the cards? Or they come overclocked and if you go even furthur with OCing and break it no warranty?

Also I was wondering about the MSI versio of the hd7950 it's at the top of the page. Is it a no no or can I pull the trigger. It's 300 bucks and I like that.

 

[Limerick]

another question if you don't mind. The cards that are the OC version come with software to OC the cards? Or they come overclocked and if you go even furthur with OCing and break it no warranty?

Also I was wondering about the MSI versio of the hd7950 it's at the top of the page. Is it a no no or can I pull the trigger. It's 300 bucks and I like that.

They don't come with software to overclock (at least not my sapphire, don't know about MSI though, probably not though). You have to use a third party overclocking tool or enter BIOS and do it (not recommended for newer people) And you'll have to read the warranty terms on it to find that out (but overclock anyway and if your gpu dies somewhere down the line just send it back in and say it was faulty).

 

[bigcyco1]

another question if you don't mind. The cards that are the OC version come with software to OC the cards? Or they come overclocked and if you go even furthur with OCing and break it no warranty?

Also I was wondering about the MSI versio of the hd7950 it's at the top of the page. Is it a no no or can I pull the trigger. It's 300 bucks and I like that.

The MSI 670 PE comes with all that i don't know about the 7950 my sons did not and that 7950 is fine

 

[Limerick]

The MSI 670 PE comes with all that i don't know about the 7950 my sons did not and that 7950 is fine

Ha my bad then. I've never got any MSI's before so I didn't know. My vapor-x didn't come with one that's for sure.

 

[rikdogski]

What are the specs on your current PC. If I'm asking too many questions let me know and I'll try to find answers elsewhere. It's just nice talking to a human who knows what is going on.
I've learned a lot in the past few days about building PCs and the more comparrisons I do between PCs helps me know what will work for the one Im trying to build.

 

[Limerick]

What are the specs on your current PC. If I'm asking too many questions let me know and I'll try to find answers elsewhere. It's just nice talking to a human who knows what is going on.
I've learned a lot in the past few days about building PCs and the more comparrisons I do between PCs helps me know what will work for the one Im trying to build.

Specs:
CPU: i7- 2700k @4.6GHz
MOBO- Gigabyte UP4 (can't remember the full name but it's somewhere close to that)
GPU: Dual Sapphire 7950 vapor-x overclocked to 1315MHz.
RAM- Kingston HyperX 8GB DDR3-1600 MHz
PSU: SeaSonic M12II 750

I also have an 120gb OCZ Agility 3 solid state drive as my primary drive where I store the OS and my games. My secondary drive is 1TB Western Digital Black Caviar HDD where I store everything besides games.

The cpu is also overclocked from base about 1.2 GHZ. As you can tell I like overclocking alot

 

[Limerick]

And you're not asking too many questions. I like helping people out.

 

[bigcyco1]

What are the specs on your current PC. If I'm asking too many questions let me know and I'll try to find answers elsewhere. It's just nice talking to a human who knows what is going on.
I've learned a lot in the past few days about building PCs and the more comparrisons I do between PCs helps me know what will work for the one Im trying to build.

My specs are in my sig and no your not asking to many questions no worries!

 

[rikdogski]

So just to be 100% certain this http://www.amazon.com/MSI-R7950-TWIN-FROZR-3GD5/dp/B007NG3WR2?tag=vglnk-c1001-20 card is the card we have been talking about. I know it isn't the sapphire brand but everything should be pretty much the same right?
Also I want to make sure this is the OVERCLOCKED VERSION. Thanks as soon as I hear the feedback I'm pullin the trigger and will have my first PC part ordered.

 

[Limerick]

Yup. And MSI makes reliable cards I've heard. It also has the twin frozr (a beautiful cooler, friend has one) Once you get it try overclocking (if you want) if you have any questions about ocing come back, make a thread, and about it and I probably will reply, or someone with equal experience as me.

 

[rikdogski]

Man you and big CYCO have been the best. I am soooooooo greatful to you guys. When I get my gaming PC list together would I be able to PM you the list and see if you think it is a good build?

That would be awesome. I'm really new to computer stuff, but I love learning new things. I didn't know how to do carpentry till I kept doing it, now I can. I didn't know how to plump until I tried. Or ride dirt bikes, or be decent at Iracing, well you get the point.

I'm a do it yourselfer. And the fastest way to learn is from other folks. Thanks you guys. Gonna go buy that card now.

 

[Limerick]

Now I'm tired and going to sleep. Good night tomshardware!