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Hey, don't be afraid, it is just a computer.
I'm glad it worked for you. Please let us know what happened after reboot.
"MHenry" <MHenry@blank.net> wrote in message
news:kgifo0lq448fkign6sncru6hclrrd0lgm6@4ax.com...
> Peter,
>
> I am afraid to reboot!
> (Everything is working perfectly now!!)
>
> I went through your post and methodically began to list the steps I
> used to delete and recreate the third partition. To do this, I
> repeated the steps I took and wrote them down. In doing this, I was
> able to fix the problem, and I thank you for that. Here are the steps.
>
> 1. Boot from Windows 2000 CD
> 2. Enter Windows Setup
> 3. Select Install Fresh Windows System
> 4. Delete Selected partition (E
by entering D, then L at the next
> screen to confirm
> 5. Create new partition on (now) unformatted space by entering C.
> 6. After New partition E: created, F3 to leave Windows setup.
>
> However, during this process, before step 4, I noticed that Windows
> setup identified my existing third partition as damaged.
>
> So, I deleted it, recreated it, and then deleted it again.
>
> I decided to create the third partition using Partition Magic instead.
> (I actually tried to create the third partition using Partition Magic
> before I went through the steps above this morning, but it reported
> problems with the partition.)
>
> Lo and Behold!
>
> Partition Magic created the third partition!
> Windows sees it!
> Disk Management sees it!
> Norton Ghost sees it!
> Heck, even I see it!
>
> Norton Ghost is making a backup of my system from C: to E: as I type
> this (probably another error on my part -- or is it okay to work and
> backup at the same time?)
>
> I am ecstatic!
>
> Thank you so so much.
>
> You, Tim, and all the other people who got me through this.
>
> I am very grateful to you all.
>
> Here is the latest PartInNt report, and it looks clean as a whistle.
> No errors, no warnings, no nightmares.
>
> Symantec PartitionInfo 8.0 -- Windows NT/2000 Version
> Date Generated: 11/02/04 10:10:43
> Copyright (c)1994-2004, Symantec Corporation
> Permission is granted for this utility to be freely copied so long
> as it is not modified in any way. All other rights are reserved.
>
> Symantec, makers of Norton PartitionMagic(r), Drive Image(tm), and
> DriveCopy(tm), can be
>
> reached at:
> Voice: 801-437-8900
> Fax: 801-226-8941
> Web site: http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/
>
> General System Information:
> Total Physical Memory (bytes): 536,330,240
> Used Physical Memory: (bytes): 159,256,576
> Maximum Page File Size: (bytes): 1,306,533,888
> Current Page File Size: (bytes): 257,118,208
>
>
>
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> Disk Geometry Information for Disk 1: 30401 Cylinders, 255 Heads,
> 63 Sectors/Track
> System PartSect # Boot BCyl Head Sect FS ECyl Head
> Sect StartSect
>
> NumSects
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> 0 0 80 0 1 1 07 1023 254
> 63 63
>
> 163,846,872
> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Actual values are:
> 0 0 80 0 1 1 07 10198 254 63 63
> 163846872
> 0 1 00 1023 0 1 0F 1023 254
> 63 163,846,935
>
> 324,496,935
> Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Actual values are:
> 0 1 00 10199 0 1 0F 30397 254 63 163846935
> 324496935
> 163,846,935 0 00 1023 1 1 07 1023 254
> 63 163,846,998
>
> 163,830,807
> Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Actual values are:
> 163846935 0 00 10199 1 1 07 20396 254 63 163846998
> 163830807
> 163,846,935 1 00 1023 0 1 05 1023 254
> 63 327,677,805
>
> 160,666,065
> Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Actual values are:
> 163846935 1 00 20397 0 1 05 30397 254 63 327677805
> 160666065
> 327,677,805 0 00 1023 1 1 07 1023 254
> 63 327,677,868
>
> 160,666,002
> Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> Actual values are:
> 327677805 0 00 20397 1 1 07 30397 254 63 327677868
> 160666002
>
>
>
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> Partition Information for Disk 1: 238,472.7 Megabytes
> Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect #
> StartSect TotalSects
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> C: NTFS Pri,Boot 80,003.4 0 0
> 63 163,846,872
> ExtendedX Pri 158,445.8 0 1
> 163,846,935 324,496,935
> EPBR Log 79,995.5 None --
> 163,846,935 163,830,870
> D: NTFS Log 79,995.5 163,846,935 0
> 163,846,998 163,830,807
> EPBR Log 78,450.2 163,846,935 1
> 327,677,805 160,666,065
> E: NTFS Log 78,450.2 327,677,805 0
> 327,677,868 160,666,002
> Unallocated Pri 23.5 None --
> 488,343,870 48,195
>
>
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> Boot Record for drive C: (Drive: 1, Starting sector: 63, Type: NTFS)
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> 1. Jump: EB 52 90
> 2. OEM Name: NTFS
> 3. Bytes per Sector: 512
> 4. Sectors per Cluster: 8
> 5. Reserved Sectors: 0
> 6. Number of FATs: 0
> 7. Root Dir Entries: 0
> 8. Total Sectors: 0
> 9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
> 10. Sectors per FAT: 0
> 11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
> 12. Number of Heads: 255 (0xFF)
> 13. Hidden Sectors: 63 (0x3F)
> 14. Total Sectors (>32MB): 0 (0x0)
> 15. Unused: 0x80008000
> 16. Total NTFS Sectors: 163846871
> 17. MFT Start Cluster: 4
> 18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 10240429
> 19. Clusters per FRS: 246
> 20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
> 21. Serial Number: 0x4274591674590E53
> 22. Checksum: 0 (0x0)
> 23. Boot Signature: 0xAA55
>
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> Boot Record for drive D: (Drive: 1, Starting sector: 163,846,998,
> Type: NTFS)
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> 1. Jump: EB 52 90
> 2. OEM Name: NTFS
> 3. Bytes per Sector: 512
> 4. Sectors per Cluster: 8
> 5. Reserved Sectors: 0
> 6. Number of FATs: 0
> 7. Root Dir Entries: 0
> 8. Total Sectors: 0
> 9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
> 10. Sectors per FAT: 0
> 11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
> 12. Number of Heads: 255 (0xFF)
> 13. Hidden Sectors: 63 (0x3F)
> 14. Total Sectors (>32MB): 0 (0x0)
> 15. Unused: 0x80008000
> 16. Total NTFS Sectors: 163830806
> 17. MFT Start Cluster: 4
> 18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 10239425
> 19. Clusters per FRS: 246
> 20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
> 21. Serial Number: 0x1E74CF9274CF6ADB
> 22. Checksum: 0 (0x0)
> 23. Boot Signature: 0xAA55
>
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> Boot Record for drive E: (Drive: 1, Starting sector: 327,677,868,
> Type: NTFS)
>
============================================================================
================
>
> ===============
> 1. Jump: EB 52 90
> 2. OEM Name: NTFS
> 3. Bytes per Sector: 512
> 4. Sectors per Cluster: 8
> 5. Reserved Sectors: 0
> 6. Number of FATs: 0
> 7. Root Dir Entries: 0
> 8. Total Sectors: 0
> 9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
> 10. Sectors per FAT: 0
> 11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
> 12. Number of Heads: 255 (0xFF)
> 13. Hidden Sectors: 63 (0x3F)
> 14. Total Sectors (>32MB): 0 (0x0)
> 15. Unused: 0x80008000
> 16. Total NTFS Sectors: 160666001
> 17. MFT Start Cluster: 4
> 18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 10041625
> 19. Clusters per FRS: 246
> 20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
> 21. Serial Number: 0xC640B48F40B48827
> 22. Checksum: 0 (0x0)
> 23. Boot Signature: 0xAA55
>
>
>
> MHenry
>
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:33:01 -0500, "Peter" <peterfoxghost@yahoo.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >How exactly did you "deleted and recreated the third partition", please
> >describe all steps. How did you check (steps again please) if "Windows
see
> >the third partition"?
> >You are right, no need to play with BIOS or regedit fix if you do not
want
> >to recover third partition data.
> >I assume that you currently run new BIOS and regedit fix for 137GB
problem
> >is in place.
> >I would not recommend to install another Windows instance on third
> >partition.
> >What is partinnt.exe showing right now?
> >
> >"MHenry" <MHenry@blank.net> wrote in message
> >news:f3bfo0pkdppb9kn91ch9vefcdqiuu2t0d6@4ax.com...
> >> Hi, Peter,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the information.
> >>
> >> I was fortunate enough to have recently moved all my data from my
> >> third partition to my second partition.
> >>
> >> If the only reason to revert BIOS and remove regedit entry is to
> >> recover any data that might have been on the third partition, I can
> >> skip that step, corrent?
> >>
> >> Is there another reason to revert and remove?
> >>
> >> I have already deleted and recreated the third partition, but Windows
> >> still does not see it.
> >>
> >> The third partition is not formatted. I don't know how to do that if
> >> Windows won't see it.
> >>
> >> I had an idea I thought I might try. I don't know if it is a good
> >> idea, though, or if it will fix anything.
> >>
> >> I could go into Windows Setup and install Windows 2000 on the third
> >> partition. If I remember correctly, Windows will first format the
> >> partition, then install the system. I thought this might force Windows
> >> to recognize the third partition. I don't know if that will enable
> >> Norton Ghost to read my hard drives or get rid of the warnings in the
> >> Disk Management Report.
> >>
> >> I really don't want to lose my data, and I am going to all this
> >> trouble so that I can make a backup of my system files and my data. It
> >> would ironic if I were to lose it in the process of trying to secure
> >> it. I don't think I have the nerve to play with FindPart or FindNTFS
> >> just yet.
> >>
> >> For the same reason, I am hesitant to remove the registry entry in
> >> Windows.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:34:04 -0500, "Peter" <peterfoxghost@yahoo.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >You have two options:
> >> >1. Revert BIOS to your older version, remove regedit fix for 137GB -
you
> >> >should see your third partition again. Backup files from that
partition
> >to
> >> >another place. Redo BIOS and regedit. Recreate third partition.
Restore
> >> >files.
> >> >2. Play with FindPart and FindNTFS utilities from
> >> >http://www.partitionsupport.com/utilities.htm But if you don't have a
> >> >backup, you might lose your data.
> >> >
> >> >"MHenry" <MHenry@blank.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:rbdeo0p82aegcsnlvbpf2s7gabim826bol@4ax.com...
> >> >> I reran PartInNt and discovered on closer inspection that it sees
> >> >> 238GB but only sees two partitions also.
> >> >>
> >> >> Within the report are a couple of warnings.
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Warning: Logical drive chain points to sector without partition
> >> >> table.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. Warning: EPBR partition starting at 327677805 is without logical
> >> >> partition.
> >> >>
> >> >> The complete new report follows.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, Disk Management shows C: and D: as healthy 78GB drives and
shows
> >> >> 76.61 GB of free space not designated as a drive.
> >> >>
> >> >> ****
> >> >>
> >> >> PowerQuest PartitionInfo 8.0 -- Windows NT/2000 Version
> >> >> Date Generated: 11/01/04 23:21:05
> >> >> Copyright (c)1994-2002, PowerQuest Corporation
> >> >> Permission is granted for this utility to be freely copied so long
> >> >> as it is not modified in any way. All other rights are reserved.
> >> >>
> >> >> PowerQuest, makers of PartitionMagic(r), Drive Image(tm), and
> >> >> DriveCopy(tm), can be reached at:
> >> >> Voice: 801-437-8900
> >> >> Fax: 801-226-8941
> >> >> Web site: http://www.powerquest.com/support/
> >> >> E-mail: magic@powerquest.com
> >> >>
> >> >> General System Information:
> >> >> Total Physical Memory (bytes): 536,330,240
> >> >> Used Physical Memory: (bytes): 242,302,976
> >> >> Maximum Page File Size: (bytes): 1,306,398,720
> >> >> Current Page File Size: (bytes): 254,611,456
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>==========================================================================
=
> >=
> >> >===============================
> >> >> Disk Geometry Information for Disk 1: 30401 Cylinders, 255
Heads,
> >> >> 63 Sectors/Track
> >> >> Warning: Logical drive chain points to sector without partition
table.
> >> >> System PartSect # Boot BCyl Head Sect FS ECyl Head
> >> >> Sect StartSect NumSects
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>==========================================================================
=
> >=
> >> >===============================
> >> >> 0 0 80 0 1 1 07 1023 254
> >> >> 63 63 163,846,872
> >> >> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> >> >> Actual values are:
> >> >> 0 0 80 0 1 1 07 10198 254 63 63
> >> >> 163846872
> >> >> 0 1 00 1023 0 1 0F 1023 254
> >> >> 63 163,846,935 324,496,935
> >> >> Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> >> >> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> >> >> Actual values are:
> >> >> 0 1 00 10199 0 1 0F 30397 254 63 163846935
> >> >> 324496935
> >> >> 163,846,935 0 00 1023 1 1 07 1023 254
> >> >> 63 163,846,998 163,830,807
> >> >> Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> >> >> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> >> >> Actual values are:
> >> >> 163846935 0 00 10199 1 1 07 20396 254 63 163846998
> >> >> 163830807
> >> >> 163,846,935 1 00 1023 0 1 05 1023 254
> >> >> 63 327,677,805 160,633,935
> >> >> Info: Begin C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> >> >> Info: End C,H,S values were large drive placeholders.
> >> >> Actual values are:
> >> >> 163846935 1 00 20397 0 1 05 30395 254 63 327677805
> >> >> 160633935
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>==========================================================================
=
> >=
> >> >===============================
> >> >> Partition Information for Disk 1: 238,472.7 Megabytes
> >> >> Volume PartType Status Size MB PartSect #
> >> >> StartSect TotalSects
> >> >>
> >>
> >>========================================================================
===
> >=
> >> >===============================
> >> >> C: NTFS Pri,Boot 80,003.4 0 0
> >> >> 63 163,846,872
> >> >> ExtendedX Pri 158,445.8 0 1
> >> >> 163,846,935 324,496,935
> >> >> EPBR Log 79,995.5 None --
> >> >> 163,846,935 163,830,870
> >> >> D: NTFS Log 79,995.5 163,846,935 0
> >> >> 163,846,998 163,830,807
> >> >> EPBR Log 78,434.5 163,846,935 1
> >> >> 327,677,805 160,633,935
> >> >> Warning: EPBR partition starting at 327677805 is without logical
> >> >> partition.
> >> >> Unallocated Log 15.7 None --
> >> >> 488,311,740 32,130
> >> >> Unallocated Pri 23.5 None --
> >> >> 488,343,870 48,195
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>==========================================================================
=
> >=
> >> >===============================
> >> >> Boot Record for drive C: (Drive: 1, Starting sector: 63, Type:
NTFS)
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>==========================================================================
=
> >=
> >> >===============================
> >> >> 1. Jump: EB 52 90
> >> >> 2. OEM Name: NTFS
> >> >> 3. Bytes per Sector: 512
> >> >> 4. Sectors per Cluster: 8
> >> >> 5. Reserved Sectors: 0
> >> >> 6. Number of FATs: 0
> >> >> 7. Root Dir Entries: 0
> >> >> 8. Total Sectors: 0
> >> >> 9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
> >> >> 10. Sectors per FAT: 0
> >> >> 11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
> >> >> 12. Number of Heads: 255 (0xFF)
> >> >> 13. Hidden Sectors: 63 (0x3F)
> >> >> 14. Total Sectors (>32MB): 0 (0x0)
> >> >> 15. Unused: 0x80008000
> >> >> 16. Total NTFS Sectors: 163846871
> >> >> 17. MFT Start Cluster: 4
> >> >> 18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 10240429
> >> >> 19. Clusters per FRS: 246
> >> >> 20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
> >> >> 21. Serial Number: 0x4274591674590E53
> >> >> 22. Checksum: 0 (0x0)
> >> >> 23. Boot Signature: 0xAA55
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>==========================================================================
=
> >=
> >> >===============================
> >> >> Boot Record for drive D: (Drive: 1, Starting sector: 163,846,998,
> >> >> Type: NTFS)
> >> >>
> >>
>
>>==========================================================================
=
> >=
> >> >===============================
> >> >> 1. Jump: EB 52 90
> >> >> 2. OEM Name: NTFS
> >> >> 3. Bytes per Sector: 512
> >> >> 4. Sectors per Cluster: 8
> >> >> 5. Reserved Sectors: 0
> >> >> 6. Number of FATs: 0
> >> >> 7. Root Dir Entries: 0
> >> >> 8. Total Sectors: 0
> >> >> 9. Media Descriptor: 0xF8
> >> >> 10. Sectors per FAT: 0
> >> >> 11. Sectors per Track: 63 (0x3F)
> >> >> 12. Number of Heads: 255 (0xFF)
> >> >> 13. Hidden Sectors: 63 (0x3F)
> >> >> 14. Total Sectors (>32MB): 0 (0x0)
> >> >> 15. Unused: 0x80008000
> >> >> 16. Total NTFS Sectors: 163830806
> >> >> 17. MFT Start Cluster: 4
> >> >> 18. MFT Mirror Start Clust: 10239425
> >> >> 19. Clusters per FRS: 246
> >> >> 20. Clusters per Index Blk: 1
> >> >> 21. Serial Number: 0x1E74CF9274CF6ADB
> >> >> 22. Checksum: 0 (0x0)
> >> >> 23. Boot Signature: 0xAA55
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 07:12:58 GMT, MHenry <MHenry@blank.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hello, Tim, and all other helpful interested parties,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks to everyone's help, I successfully flashed my BIOS, updated
my
> >> >> >Windows 2000 registry per the MS KB article, got a "no errors
found"
> >> >> >message on latest run of PartInNT.exe where it sees 238GB of Hard
> >> >> >Drive, and installed Ghost 9.0 with no more error messages! (I ran
> >> >> >PartInNT before I changed the registry and it still showed the same
> >> >> >errors as before. When I modified the windows registry, PartInNT
ran
> >> >> >error free.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >But now I have new problems.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Windows 2000 no longer sees my third partition.
> >> >> >It boots up with only two 80GB drives (partitions) C: and D:, and
no
> >> >> >longer sees the third drive (partition) E:.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >And when I select the backup option on the Ghost Disk it doesn't
see
> >> >> >any of the drives (partitions) at all.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >When I boot from the Windows CD, it lists all three partitions just
> >> >> >the way it did before the above mentioned system changes.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I thought I might remove the windows registry entry and see if that
is
> >> >> >the problem, but the MS KB article says...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >/After you enable 48-bit LBA support by adding the appropriate
> >> >> >registry key, data corruption may occur if you remove the registry
key
> >> >> >or if you remove (uninstall) SP3 for Windows 2000./
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Does anyone know what might have happened and what I should do now?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Thanks,
> >> >> >MHenry
> >> >> >
> >> >> >On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:14:26 -0800, "Timothy Daniels"
> >> >> ><TDaniels@NoSpamDot.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>"MHenry" wrote:
> >> >> >>> P.S.,
> >> >> >>> I don't suppose there is any chance I won't have to reformat and
> >start
> >> >> >>> all over?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> If the problem is the elderly BIOS, I *believe* you won't have
to
> >> >> >> re-install your software. Your manufacturer's tech rep should
> >> >> >> be able to answer that. If you flash the BIOS, be careful to
do
> >> >> >> it exactly according to directions since it's like brain stem
> >> >> >> surgery on the PC.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>*TimDaniels*
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
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