Gigabyte P67A-UD5 vs. Gigabyte P67A-UD4

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Yes, I want to select this as best answer but it done brokeded
 
So ... using discrete graphics (ex SLI or 3 gtx570) go with x58 or 1366 and pass completely on SB as it is now? Seems to be the feeling I am getting ...

But, is the overclock that can be obtained with SB thrown off balance by the negatives you mention ... to the point where x58 or 1366 maybe a better choice?
 
It's all about balance, and the SB CPU is not the problem it's the friggin chassis it's attached to that's the problem.

So if gaming and 2/3-WAY SLI or CF is the goal then YES the X58 is the better choice.

YES BALANCE!!! You want ALL aspects to support one another, and for the life of me -- the P67 screwed-up big-time!
 
If this is a "Discussion" and {Best Answer} is 'missing' then I can have one of the guys 'fix' the post. Otherwise it makes no difference to me.

That other post is getting testy, kind of what I wanted -- so shh! It makes people 'think' and 'dig' deeper. I don't have a problem with opinions as long as there's some fact behind it. 😉
 

Man, I bought GA-P67A-UD5 already.. Hopefully it's not that bad.
 
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Fortunately after some reading I discovered that x16 and x8 in SLi won't have big difference (5 fps). For the third PCIe slot I still don't know what useful card could be put on, so I'm not sad 😀
 
^Based upon smaller resolutions and current GPUs. I am untypical in that I SLI 5760 X 1080 and there's a lot more than 5FPS. If you have some dinky monitor then I hope you're not running SLI or your really like >150~200 FPS. Crysis and many intense games throws a lot of data through the PCIe.

It 100% depends on your resolution, games, etc and what GPU you're wanting and when.

Since the vast majority of people are not like me or running multiple monitors or may not care about 'extreme' rigs or will running a PCIe SSD then I have no issues nor complaints about the P55/P67.

Think about this - would you buy a GeForce 8400 GS? By EOL of the P67 the equivalent will be the GTX 470. It wasn't that long ago that was a great GPU? Games are getting a lot more taxing on the entire rig.

If you don't game then this, including my stuff, is pointless. I have nothing bad to say about the P67 - remember the x8/x8 is on the CPU -- blame Intel. I really wanted the P67 to have x16/x16 native or PCIe 3.0. My frustration is Intel is screwing the consumers -- you and me!

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My 3 monitors were ~ $1K; now if you don't care about 3D you can get the 5760 X 1080 for $480 or less e.g. ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms(GTG) HDMI 1080P http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059 so if you're looking at a GTX 470 SLI $450 ($225/ea) you're loosing out...

Think about it.
 

Not a gamer anymore. The only games I'm still interested in are Blizzard's, and as you know they have low specs requirements 😀

But I got your point, and might plan a dual monitor in the future (not three though). How many data/quality loss I'll have running SLi with dual monitor?

I should but couldn't afford to wait the rumored Z67 :pfff:
 
Hey, My GA-P67A-UD5 booted up on the first try.
AND no dredded "CPU INIT" error message.
That's good enough for me.
I'm happy so far.
 

LoL

Infact I made my choices based on that OP (other) reviews. Although mine are a little bit "weaker" than his rig, already bought P67A-UD5, and going for 2500K. 😀

How could I resist its 2x Copper PCB and those robust heatsinks..
 
I would love it if Gigabyte were without bad MOBOs, but in this forum they are number 1 on the failure list. I prefer EVGA for a gaming MOBO.


My hope is GA fixed their engineering for P67, I am confused why they are using old BIOS tech?
 


I would love if aSUS,evga,msi,...etc were without bad MOBOs..where is that list?..you just have a bad experience with -UD3R and now
telling every one how bad GB's are ,most of the time user is the one to blame
 
^No, not it at all. There have been, since I've been posting here, maybe 10~15 ASUS vs GA vs ETC discussions on relaibility of MOBOs. All of the folks in this section that are Silver {enough of them} or Gold agree that the Gigabyte's are the #1 RMA/Faulty MOBOs with the exception of bilbat who gets nuts when you nah-say GA. Gold in MOBO = jaquith, tecmo34, saint19 & bilbat; saint19 & I broke the forum counter.

I tell that SAME as 3/4 MOBO Gold's: EVGA & ASUS!

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BTW - I do NOT count 'User Error' as a bad MOBO; these are all based upon RMA MOBOs.

I am to the point where I say what I feel or think, and I have no calling to suck-up to the OP or pat them on the back and blindly agree with them to get a Best Answer.
 
Reread -> "; saint19 & I broke the forum counter." which means we broke the forum counter and show-up as Bronze.

Duh, 3/4 MOBO Gold's: jaquith {me};1 , tecmo34;2, saint19;3 / bilbat;4

Get off the caffeine and read again!
 
what's with you and your "forum counter",badges,..?i don't even visit this section and it looks like there is only hand full of people that does ,the bottom line is ..this company's mention above are top dogs in mobo making business and the only thing that hurts one more then another is customer support period
P.S. i think new GA mobos are being shipped with new BIOS I think you should "Get off the caffeine and read again!"
 
Badges = experience, prompted by your comments like "@ OP ..don't listen to all this aSUS fan boys and all that nonsense about how bad GIGABYTE mobos" are unsubstantiated nonsense with no REAL INFO; all rhetoric without merit. I own: EVGA, ASUS, & Gigabyte. In my case it was proven to be an engineering problem/flaw in design -- hard to ignore MASSIVE FAILURE. Doesn't mean I hate GA. If ASUS MOBOs constantly were being determined as "BAD" then I'd have no problems stating steer-clear of ASUS and get an EVGA or whatever MOBO was the least problematic + fast + quality.

I like Corsair, but all I have been doing is promoting G.SKILL Ripjaws X for the P67 because everything I've seen suggests, for now, they're the best choice. In GA's I've seen the 'Swiss Army Knife' build approach come back and bite them in the rear. Likewise the ASUS Maximus IV Extreme has issues with the 3-WAY + the jerry-rigged nVidia 'add-on' PCIe controller; so I'm not recommending it until that issue is fully resolved {Driver(s) and/or BIOS}.

NO UEFI BIOS + GA {scrub to 9min:50sec} -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppRzv1tKRyE&feature=sub Even GA's P67 flagship GA-P67A-UD7 (rev. 1.0) doesn't have UEFI; check the manual I did.

This section requires that you know practically everything, sections like: CPUs, GPUs, OC are simple by comparison. Here you're dealing with correcting problems, selection, builds, RAM, conflicts, BAD MOBOs!!! - you name it.
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I only recommend what works best! I don't care less if someone ignores my experience...it's not my rig or money. Bottom-line, I have no agenda.
 
jaquith..i'm not disputing your technical knowledge ( if you were such a expert and authority on mobos you would't be here on the first place)..i'm just a little bit pizt of that you laying some Heavy Lead on second best mobo manufacturer and yes i'm also familiar with asus evga msi and they all have some type of shortcoming but that is just my opinion
P.S. ok..no new bios from GA (they were going to send them with UEFI) o well i guess that would make GA mobo a bad mobo ..
 
It screamed to me GA rushing out product. Poor preparation doesn't generally mean good things. I knew about that before I said word one in this post.

Let's hope GA P67's and all future GA's work great!

Cheers
 
I used to have Biostar 775, and was undecided between ASUS and MSI for the 1155.

Almost did a checkout on the ASUS mobo when I read users' reviews who had opened ASUS and GIGABYTE heatsinks and the rest of the mobos, and concluded that ASUS' P67 heatsinks were just cool and shiny. On the contrary, GA's were robust etc.

Well, only time can tell if GA is as bad as Jaquith said. His advices are helping me a lot in this forums, but I am being super positive about my P67A-UD5 😀
 
I am not saying they're bad, nor am I saying they're flawless either.

Experience Answers means just that - trends, performance, reliability, features, compatibility. There's only one horse that wins the race and a triple crown is about them all as stated.

In reality the performance between similar MOBO is nearly negligible.
 
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