Go 8800gt sli or new card?

[OvrClkr]

Red Bull or coffee?

 

[murdalicious]

Your reasoning about helping out your buddy out brought a tear to me eye.

Go for it, mate, dual 8800gts will be more than enough.

Lol



Thanks for everyones input, I'm going to discuss all the information I've gather here with my friend and come up with a good decision that will hopefully benefit the both of us.

bluescreen & ovrclkr, thanks for the replies in this ungodly hour

 

[neon neophyte]

lol@52 posts.

 

[OvrClkr]

Talk about posting, last night I was like a zombie here on Toms typing several posts that did not make any sense....I guess that is what happens when you have been in a chair for more than 15 hours strait......Heh now I am reading and kinda shocked, ohh well I guess this happens when you are supposed to rest and just can't let go of the keyboard......Like sleepwalking but not standing up, just sitting there making no sense at all.... lol

 

[Richy0money]

i just ordered a second 8800gt, and to tell you the truth, i just wanted to seal this build with sli, and i dont want to upgrade the psu, its 600watts. and i hate the new gen cards mainly because of the form factor, so fat and hot!!! the the slimm 8800gt uses alot less electricity, runs cooler, and hell, like i said before, i just wanted to seal this build with sli. other then that i am adding a ssd 64gb disk to run vista and flight simulator x. and my res is only 1600x1000 some odd. i figure 2 cards will max my machine and psu, and display flightsimX on 2 monitors. oh and i thought the q6600 would bottle neck a gtx275( u can get one for under 2 bills after rebate on newegg). and i do not want to upgrade my cpu, that would lead to a new mobo, which would lead to different ram, not to mention the future psu, so like i said about a dozen times already, im sealing this build with sli 8800gt's my favorite cards (due to power consumption, heat, and size) . ill build another pc in 2 years or so. cant wait to see whats out there in 2011.

 

[OvrClkr]

Don't buy an SSD unless you abslolutely need one.... The only difference you will see is faster booting times and access to your folders....Everything else stays the same....I have a WD Caviar Black that is almost as fast as a Raptor and they are dirt cheap compared to an SSD.....

IMO as far as price to performance goes, they are a waste of money.....Unless you are rich and can easily buy 2 and raid them.....

hehe, its funny how memory companies monopolize the market when it comes to these SSD's. They are nothing but a big memory chip enclosed in a box... Its like the thumb-drive ripoff all over again...When the usb thumb-drives came out they were super expensive... I remember when the 8GB's came out, and the cost was around around 70-80$...Now you can get one for 5$ on e-bay....Makes no sense at all....

 

[vjcsmoke]

Sell the 8800GT to your friend then buy a GTX 275. Make sure that your PSU has the connectors and the wattage to power the new card though. Also the GTX 275 is 10.5 inches long so make sure it will fit into your motherboard/case. Make sure nothing interferes, is lined up in the way of the pcie slot, etc.

Hehe, nm, just saw your last post. Yeah if you're gaming at 1680x1050, two 8800GT in SLI should do fine for you.

 

[Richy0money]

Don't buy an SSD unless you abslolutely need one.... The only difference you will see is faster booting times and access to your folders....Everything else stays the same....I have a WD Caviar Black that is almost as fast as a Raptor and they are dirt cheap compared to an SSD.....

IMO as far as price to performance goes, they are a waste of money.....Unless you are rich and can easily buy 2 and raid them.....

hehe, its funny how memory companies monopolize the market when it comes to these SSD's. They are nothing but a big memory chip enclosed in a box... Its like the thumb-drive ripoff all over again...When the usb thumb-drives came out they were super expensive... I remember when the 8GB's came out, and the cost was around around 70-80$...Now you can get one for 5$ on e-bay....Makes no sense at all....

i disagree to a certain point, i hate the loads between missions in flightX, and a more responsive system on a stable drive means alot to me, so 130 bucks for a 64gb SSD is not the end of the world; plus i grew up with catridge based systems (no load times). so perhaps when the price drops again (in half) ill buy another and raid them. but the harddrive the system is on is no longer a bottleneck for me, and i could argue that a SSD disk is the best upgrade anyone could do at the moment, but that is just my personal oppinion.

 

[Richy0money]

histrory begins to repeat faster and faster each year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTUIHK7gHRE

 

[OvrClkr]

i disagree to a certain point, i hate the loads between missions in flightX, and a more responsive system on a stable drive means alot to me, so 130 bucks for a 64gb SSD is not the end of the world; plus i grew up with catridge based systems (no load times). so perhaps when the price drops again (in half) ill buy another and raid them. but the harddrive the system is on is no longer a bottleneck for me, and i could argue that a SSD disk is the best upgrade anyone could do at the moment, but that is just my personal oppinion.

Well i guess we have VERY different opinions, I have tested and benched (IN GAMES) : 300GB Raptor vs. a 640GB Cav Black vs. a 120GB OCZ Vertex and to my surprise all 3 perform EXACTLY the same, there is no difference when we compare all 3 (IN GAME). Yea the write / read numbers will favor the Vertex but for the price IMO its a waste... Unless of course money is not an option and you need it for AutoCad, Cinibench (rendering), etc....Dont get me wrong here, there are many peeps that are VERY impatient and do have the cash to spend on these suckers....So in all its a matter of taste, being smart and buying what you need... not just buying cause you are tired of waiting 15 sec for Windows to load, or for braggin rights.... Me for example, all i do is GAME and Bench.... so i see no need for an SSD that will give me more or less the same results as oppossed to a platter drive....

As far as your bottleneck goes, you either are WAAAAAY to impatient or you just had a crappy hard-drive... I have never had a bottleneck due to a hard-drive.. and trust me I have used many....

BTW your in-game (LOADING) is not 100% dependant of your HD, it has to do mostly with your RAM. While you HD does have the maps, the RAM and it's speed is what decide's how fast it will load.

On a side note: who sells 64GB SSD's for 130.00$ The G.Skill Falcon is the only one worth buying ATM and its 180.00$ A good 120GB like the OCZ Summit sells for 370.00$ In my book these prices are just redonculous as far as price/performance goes....

 

[Richy0money]

Well i guess we have VERY different opinions, I have tested and benched (IN GAMES) : 300GB Raptor vs. a 640GB Cav Black vs. a 120GB OCZ Vertex and to my surprise all 3 perform EXACTLY the same, there is no difference when we compare all 3 (IN GAME). Yea the write / read numbers will favor the Vertex but for the price IMO its a waste... Unless of course money is not an option and you need it for AutoCad, Cinibench (rendering), etc....Dont get me wrong here, there are many peeps that are VERY impatient and do have the cash to spend on these suckers....So in all its a matter of taste, being smart and buying what you need... not just buying cause you are tired of waiting 15 sec for Windows to load, or for braggin rights.... Me for example, all i do is GAME and Bench.... so i see no need for an SSD that will give me more or less the same results as oppossed to a platter drive....

As far as your bottleneck goes, you either are WAAAAAY to impatient or you just had a crappy hard-drive... I have never had a bottleneck due to a hard-drive.. and trust me I have used many....

BTW your in-game (LOADING) is not 100% dependant of your HD, it has to do mostly with your RAM. While you HD does have the maps, the RAM and it's speed is what decide's how fast it will load.

On a side note: who sells 64GB SSD's for 130.00$ The G.Skill Falcon is the only one worth buying ATM and its 180.00$ A good 120GB like the OCZ Summit sells for 370.00$ In my book these prices are just redonculous as far as price/performance goes....

i always wanted a ram drive since 97' (back then i built a dual p2 233mhz with 512mb of ram and an ati tv card, running dual boot of nt and beta98) and i dont game so much anymore.

anyeay,... why are you so hostile?
like i said earlier, i want to cutt load times, i know in-game isnt gonna change

i think all you do is bench. lol

 

[Richy0money]

in the future everything is gonna be solid state, including air control.

-micro-politics

 

[4Ryan6]

Hi guys, first off I'm currently running
q6600
evga 750i
4gb ram
22inch monitor @ 1650 x 1050 Res
8800gt overclocked.


I need some opinions for the following options. I have a friend who has a 8800gt and I was thinking of buying it off him ($100 CAD) so I can SLI my rig BUT he also wouldn't mind buying mine for the same price so that he can SLI! Should I buy his 8800gt or sell my 8800gt ($100 CAD). If i do sell my 8800gt what card should I get, I'm willing to spend about $200 after selling my 8800gt.

Another thing is, my friend's younger brother has a 9800gt, so I was thinking, He can sell me his 8800gt for $100 (CAD) and with it buy a 9800gt and grab his brother's 9800gt so he can SLI, and buy his brother a $100 card? We'll both end up spending $100 each and able to SLI?

I read that 8800gt/9800gt SLI can trade blows with a 4890, Tho the 4890 has 1g ram, it wouldn't matter because of my Res being @ 1650x1050, right?


Opinions please!!

Thanks

Well for the resolution you're running 2 8800GT in SLI will do a good job, however they need to be the same brand and clocked the same or they will not SLI together, even some of the same brand names are running different clocks, now you always have the option of BIOS flashing them to identical settings.

Seeing as how they're as old as they are BIOS flashing them shouldn't be a concern factor because you're past any warranty by now anyway, if that was even needed.

Personally IMO SLI is highly overated and in some games like Flight Sim X will do absolutely nothing what so ever for you, if the game cannot take advantage of SLI sometimes SLI will yield worse results than running a good single GPU setup.

I've past run 2 7800GTX in SLI, and then 2 8800GT in SLI and sometimes SLI can be rather disappointing, you were advised to snag the other card for testing purposes before you dive in, and I second that bit of advice.

Obviously since you and your friend have owned these 2 8800GT separately neither of you have run into heat issues with them, that will more than likely change when you slap 2 of them together in SLI, the bad thing about the 8800GT is it exhausts its heat inside the case.

I had run Zalman VF1000 coolers on mine which made a big difference in their load temperatures, of course mine were BIOS flashed and OC'd right out of the box, a good thing about the 8800GT was most could easily be OC'd with a substantial increase in performance.

I'm presently not running SLI I picked up a 9800GTX+ 1G which at 1920 X 1200 resolution out performs my 2 8800GT OC'd in SLI, so IMO their day has come and gone, I gave one to a friend of mine and the second is in my secondary gaming machine.

Hopefully your power supply will be adequate for the load, as long as it comes with 2 PCI-E 6 Pin connectors, without having to use any adapters you should be just fine, well let us know how it goes? Good Luck!

 

[OvrClkr]

Yes Sir, in the future... As I plan on buying when these redonculous prices go down....

 

[OvrClkr]

Well for the resolution you're running 2 8800GT in SLI will do a good job, however they need to be the same brand and clocked the same or they will not SLI together, even some of the same brand names are running different clocks, now you always have the option of BIOS flashing them to identical settings.

Seeing as how they're as old as they are BIOS flashing them shouldn't be a concern factor because you're past any warranty by now anyway, if that was even needed.

Personally IMO SLI is highly overated and in some games like Flight Sim X will do absolutely nothing what so ever for you, if the game cannot take advantage of SLI sometimes SLI will yield worse results than running a good single GPU setup.

I've past run 2 7800GTX in SLI, and then 2 8800GT in SLI and sometimes SLI can be rather disappointing, you were advised to snag the other card for testing purposes before you dive in, and I second that bit of advice.

Obviously since you and your friend have owned these 2 8800GT separately neither of you have run into heat issues with them, that will more than likely change when you slap 2 of them together in SLI, the bad thing about the 8800GT is it exhausts its heat inside the case.

I had run Zalman VF1000 coolers on mine which made a big difference in their load temperatures, of course mine were BIOS flashed and OC'd right out of the box, a good thing about the 8800GT was most could easily be OC'd with a substantial increase in performance.

I'm presently not running SLI I picked up a 9800GTX+ 1G which at 1920 X 1200 resolution out performs my 2 8800GT OC'd in SLI, so IMO their day has come and gone, I gave one to a friend of mine and the second is in my secondary gaming machine.

Hopefully your power supply will be adequate for the load, as long as it comes with 2 PCI-E 6 Pin connectors, without having to use any adapters you should be just fine, well let us know how it goes? Good Luck!

Very refreshing info [:jaydeejohn:5]

My question is this : How is it that dual 8800GT's are out-performed by a single 9800GTX when tests show that they can outperform a single GTX 280 in most games and benches?

 

[4Ryan6]

Very refreshing info [:jaydeejohn:5]

My question is this : How is it that dual 8800GT's are out-performed by a single 9800GTX when tests show that they can outperform a single GTX 280 in most games and benches?

Well my question to you is were those tests run on the exact same machines clocked exactly the same?

 

[4Ryan6]

My statement comes from my own testing on my own computer, my computers OC was identical, all the hardware was identical, tested on the same monitor, the only difference was the graphics cards themselves, and reinstalling same drivers, to run the test.

 

[Richy0money]

Well for the resolution you're running 2 8800GT in SLI will do a good job, however they need to be the same brand and clocked the same or they will not SLI together, even some of the same brand names are running different clocks, now you always have the option of BIOS flashing them to identical settings.

Seeing as how they're as old as they are BIOS flashing them shouldn't be a concern factor because you're past any warranty by now anyway, if that was even needed.

Personally IMO SLI is highly overated and in some games like Flight Sim X will do absolutely nothing what so ever for you, if the game cannot take advantage of SLI sometimes SLI will yield worse results than running a good single GPU setup.

I've past run 2 7800GTX in SLI, and then 2 8800GT in SLI and sometimes SLI can be rather disappointing, you were advised to snag the other card for testing purposes before you dive in, and I second that bit of advice.

Obviously since you and your friend have owned these 2 8800GT separately neither of you have run into heat issues with them, that will more than likely change when you slap 2 of them together in SLI, the bad thing about the 8800GT is it exhausts its heat inside the case.

I had run Zalman VF1000 coolers on mine which made a big difference in their load temperatures, of course mine were BIOS flashed and OC'd right out of the box, a good thing about the 8800GT was most could easily be OC'd with a substantial increase in performance.

I'm presently not running SLI I picked up a 9800GTX+ 1G which at 1920 X 1200 resolution out performs my 2 8800GT OC'd in SLI, so IMO their day has come and gone, I gave one to a friend of mine and the second is in my secondary gaming machine.


Hopefully your power supply will be adequate for the load, as long as it comes with 2 PCI-E 6 Pin connectors, without having to use any adapters you should be just fine, well let us know how it goes? Good Luck!

i hear you, i have never had an experience with sli, i want to play with it.

ill probably never have another chance, given the whole idea of playing 3d games from a designated server in the near to far future.

im not too worried about performance (i am, but its not the most important thing, i just like to tinker), and games havent tapped into the 8800 true potential as far as im concerned; after all, games are being made mainly for the xbox and playstation, the pc is merely a construction site as far as i can tell. ill upgrade my card when the new consoles come out and warrant an upgrade. in the meantime i want to collect as much experience with different configurations as i can (its fun). I dont know what climbed up Ovrclkers butt, but he needs to chill, im not tryin to win any benchmarks here. i just want a solid pc that can crunch what i throw its way.
peace-

 

[OvrClkr]

My statement comes from my own testing on my own computer, my computers OC was identical, all the hardware was identical, tested on the same monitor, the only difference was the graphics cards themselves, and reinstalling same drivers, to run the test.

Yea I guess I can understand what you mean when you say "TESTED ON MY SYSTEM WITH MY SPECS" but I guess you need to see this....


http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3334&p=11

 

[4Ryan6]

and games havent tapped into the 8800 true potential as far as im concerned;

You're kidding right?

Obviously you haven't played Crysis at 1920 X 1200 on Ultra High settings with 4xAA enabled.

 

[OvrClkr]

Dual 8800GT's in SLI can ALMOST hang with a 295 is some instances......

 

[Richy0money]

i think these forums are just a way to make dumb people go out an pay lots of money for something they dont even need.

 

[Richy0money]

You're kidding right?

Obviously you haven't played Crysis at 1920 X 1200 on Ultra High settings with 4xAA enabled.

crysis is ok, but i played it already when it was called farcry. anway it really is just a single solitairy game created to make people go out and pay top dollar for the latest hardware.


-You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.

 

[OvrClkr]

i think these forums are just a way to make dumb people go out an pay lots of money for something they dont even need.

Why would you say that?

 

[Richy0money]

Why would you say that?

cause no one is paying me to say otherwise, and its the truth.