Question GODO SATA USB External HD Enclosure

[Christophe516]

System Specs:
Model: Lenovo 510a-151cb
HD: 1TB HD(Internal)
RAM: 32GB
Backup: 2TB Passport(External)
Sound: SoundBlaster Audigy Rx
Video: (generic internal video card)

The enclosure has an internal 1TB HD, that is identical to the system HD, and has power. But the HD doesn't show up in the Disk Management utility. So, I can't format it.

Any Ideas?
TIA

 

[dwd999]

When the power is turned on, can you hear the disk spinning up and can you feel the disk vibrating in the enclosure? (This product seems to be similar to the Orico enclosures I use so you should be able to hear and feel the drive when its on).

 

[Paperdoc]

Important question: does this enclosure have a socket on it where you plug in a power supply cord? Does it come with a "power brick" to plug in there? Are you using that?

In general, there are NO standard SATA HDDs for desktop systems that can run on the power available from a USB3 port. The "Laptop Hard Drive" units sold as a complete unit (not just an enclosure) to work with USB3 ports have special low-power HDD's in them designed to work more slowly so they just CAN work within the limit of power from USB3.

 

[Christophe516]

When the power is turned on, can you hear the disk spinning up and can you feel the disk vibrating in the enclosure? (This product seems to be similar to the Orico enclosures I use so you should be able to hear and feel the drive when its on).

Yes, I can feel it running, and the enclosure is warm.

Important question: does this enclosure have a socket on it where you plug in a power supply cord? Does it come with a "power brick" to plug in there? Are you using that?

In general, there are NO standard SATA HDDs for desktop systems that can run on the power available from a USB3 port. The "Laptop Hard Drive" units sold as a complete unit (not just an enclosure) to work with USB3 ports have special low-power HDD's in them designed to work more slowly so they just CAN work within the limit of power from USB3.

Yes, the power is connected. But, But how would that keep it from being seen in the Disk Manager? My system is a Tower, not a laptop.

 

[dwd999]

Yes, I can feel it running, and the enclosure is warm.

Yes, the power is connected. But, But how would that keep it from being seen in the Disk Manager? My system is a Tower, not a laptop.

You'll probably have to resort to a third party program since Windows keeps failing. I personally prefer Gparted but any third party software that deals with disk partitioning should help to see if the disk responds and if you can create a GPT partition table header.

 

[SkyNetRising]

Yes, the power is connected. But, But how would that keep it from being seen in the Disk Manager?

Please show screenshots:

Disk Management,​

Device Manager - disk drives and storage controllers sections expanded,​

Windows Storage Spaces (Control Panel\Storage Spaces)​

(upload to imgur.com and post link)

 

[Bob.B]

System Specs:
Model: Lenovo 510a-151cb
HD: 1TB HD(Internal)
RAM: 32GB
Backup: 2TB Passport(External)
Sound: SoundBlaster Audigy Rx
Video: (generic internal video card)

The enclosure has an internal 1TB HD, that is identical to the system HD, and has power. But the HD doesn't show up in the Disk Management utility. So, I can't format it.

Any Ideas?
TIA

Does this ext work on a different pc?

 

[Paperdoc]

You said, "Yes, the power is connected. But, But how would that keep it from being seen in the Disk Manager? My system is a Tower, not a laptop."

1. Your system cannot "see" that drive in the enclosure if the drive unit cannot spin up and perform a normal read / write operation as it starts up. That is part of the POST process of the disk unit, and it must be able to report successful start-up to your mobo hardware. IF the power being supplied to the disk unit in the enclosure is NOT adequate, typically what you see is that the lights are on and it looks OK, BUT when it is required to actually spin the disks and move the heads, the power is not enough and it can't do that, so it fails. Thus, Disk Manger can NOT find a valid disk to work with.

2. A standard USB3 port can supply power to an attached device at 12 VDC up to 0.9 A max current. An enclosure can be used for various types of storage units. It happens you are using a 2½" SATA HDD. SOME such units are particularly designed to be able to work properly with no more than 0.9 A power supplied. Such units come with NO port to add extra power and rely entirely on the USB3 port supply. That type is always used in those complete "Laptop Hard Drives for USB3", and normally they work just fine. (There have been cases in which the USB3 port in use actually is NOT up to standard and fails to provide that minimum power.) BUT common HDD's used in many places, including desktops, are NOT designed for such low power. So when you mount one like that in an enclosure and try to use it with any USB3 port WITHOUT adding a connection to other power, the disk unit cannot operate properly. That is why such an enclosure MUST provide a separate power supply module AND a port on the enclosure to plug that in, and you must use it. If you think you are doing that, you may need to verify that the power supply module IS doing its job.

 

[Paperdoc]

IF you have power connected etc. as I asked above, there is one other trick you can try. You can force Windows to re-examine your system and find any NEW devices added. Here's the sequence.
1. Your system AND your enclosure and drive must be connected and turned on.

2. In lower left window type Device Manager to open that window. It shows a long list of devices. You can expand any with an arrow on the left so show more detail. If any item in this lit has a YELLOW triangle next to it that indicates a fault, often a missing device driver. If you see that, tell us what device that is and what message it shows.

3. Sometimes when a device is added or turned on, the automatic system to detect it fails, but you can force it to re-run. Click on the very top line for your whole system. Above that now click on Action and choose Scan for Hardware Changes. It will re-scan and find any it did not recognize before. Look through the revised list and see if your drive unit is present. If it is and has NO Yellow triangle next to it, then it IS recognized by the system. Back out of Device Manager and try to find it in Disk Management.

 

[Christophe516]

You'll probably have to resort to a third party program since Windows keeps failing. I personally prefer Gparted but any third party software that deals with disk partitioning should help to see if the disk responds and if you can create a GPT partition table header.

ok

Please show screenshots:

Disk Management,​

Device Manager - disk drives and storage controllers sections expanded,​

Windows Storage Spaces (Control Panel\Storage Spaces)​

(upload to imgur.com and post link)

Every time I try, with Ctrl+PrtSC. It doesn't copy it to the Clipboard.

Does this ext work on a different pc?

I don't have another PC to try it on.

You said, "Yes, the power is connected. But, But how would that keep it from being seen in the Disk Manager? My system is a Tower, not a laptop."

1. Your system cannot "see" that drive in the enclosure if the drive unit cannot spin up and perform a normal read / write operation as it starts up. That is part of the POST process of the disk unit, and it must be able to report successful start-up to your mobo hardware. IF the power being supplied to the disk unit in the enclosure is NOT adequate, typically what you see is that the lights are on and it looks OK, BUT when it is required to actually spin the disks and move the heads, the power is not enough and it can't do that, so it fails. Thus, Disk Manger can NOT find a valid disk to work with.

2. A standard USB3 port can supply power to an attached device at 12 VDC up to 0.9 A max current. An enclosure can be used for various types of storage units. It happens you are using a 2½" SATA HDD. SOME such units are particularly designed to be able to work properly with no more than 0.9 A power supplied. Such units come with NO port to add extra power and rely entirely on the USB3 port supply. That type is always used in those complete "Laptop Hard Drives for USB3", and normally they work just fine. (There have been cases in which the USB3 port in use actually is NOT up to standard and fails to provide that minimum power.) BUT common HDD's used in many places, including desktops, are NOT designed for such low power. So when you mount one like that in an enclosure and try to use it with any USB3 port WITHOUT adding a connection to other power, the disk unit cannot operate properly. That is why such an enclosure MUST provide a separate power supply module AND a port on the enclosure to plug that in, and you must use it. If you think you are doing that, you may need to verify that the power supply module IS doing its job.

The power is not supplied by a USB 3 port. It has an AC Adapter that came with it.

 

[Christophe516]

IF you have power connected etc. as I asked above, there is one other trick you can try. You can force Windows to re-examine your system and find any NEW devices added. Here's the sequence.
1. Your system AND your enclosure and drive must be connected and turned on.

They have been

2. In lower left window type Device Manager to open that window. It shows a long list of devices. You can expand any with an arrow on the left so show more detail. If any item in this lit has a YELLOW triangle next to it that indicates a fault, often a missing device driver. If you see that, tell us what device that is and what message it shows.

There are no 'yellow' triangles.

3. Sometimes when a device is added or turned on, the automatic system to detect it fails, but you can force it to re-run. Click on the very top line for your whole system. Above that now click on Action and choose Scan for Hardware Changes. It will re-scan and find any it did not recognize before. Look through the revised list and see if your drive unit is present. If it is and has NO Yellow triangle next to it, then it IS recognized by the system. Back out of Device Manager and try to find it in Disk Management.

It isn't showing up in the Device Manager, or Disk Management.

 

[SkyNetRising]

Every time I try, with Ctrl+PrtSC. It doesn't copy it to the Clipboard.

Use Sniping tool instead.

https://www.wikihow.com/Take-a-Screenshot-with-the-Snipping-Tool-on-Microsoft-Windows

 

[Bob.B]

I don't have another PC to try it on.

Got a friend or a neighbor to run a quick test?

 

[Christophe516]

Got a friend or a neighbor to run a quick test?

nope

But, I am thinking I will have to directly connect it to a USB port on my PC. Because of the Enclosure being USB3.0.

I was hoping to utilize a port on my 13-Port External USB Power Strip, But, That, and the four USB ports on the back are USB2.0. The four ports on the front, are USB3.0.

 

[Christophe516]

Got a friend or a neighbor to run a quick test?

I connected it to one of the USB3.1 ports on the front. It is seen in the Drive Management utility and I am formatting it.

 

[Paperdoc]

Glad to hear you have that solved. I (and others, I guess) did not catch the detail that the original connection was through a USB2 Hub.