Good budget-friendly single slot pcie x16 gpu?

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Kisianik
I just deleted my just typed post, because I found the Answer to Black and White PCIE x16 dilemma.

Thanks going to French site. You could actually figure it out yourself if you inspected your motherboard with magnifying glass.

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Look at small writing between Black and White PCIE slots.

I was right, Black is PCIE x16 wired as x16.
When video card installed, video card shroud with fan will face up, see my previous pictures (or in this picture face left toward the rest of motherboard) - this is CRAPPY BTX motherboard format.

In regular ATX motherboard format, video card fans in shroud are facing toward other PCIE slots, thus there are plenty of room for Dual Bracket cards.
Example of ATX motherboard...
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Thanks! Must've missed that 1050 as it's listed as dual slot because of that fan. How would I go about removing that and how would the card still cool without it?

Edit: I'm dumb, did you mean replace the case fan thats sitting above it? Cause that sounds much more doable.
 
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Ha ha, yeah. Remove the case fan above the slot in the tower. :)
 
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Lol thanks, I had a bit of a moment there apparently.

Should I replace the fan with something thinner, or is replacing it necessary?

It looks like that card is flush with the slot, so if I do replace that fan it'd have to be a very slim fan replacement.

 
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Unfortunately it's a BTX mobo, so I dont think many psu upgrades will work 🙁
 
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My assistance required again, oh well.

2 things.
Easy first. No power supply upgrade is required up to GTX 1050 TI, which doesn't require supplemental power connector. No arguments here please.

There is even 1050TI is available in the same frame https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500411

But, second, as flyercan correctly noticed my previous point (I stated previously issue of the FAT exhaust fan), you would have to either trim plastic GTX fan shroud, or improvise with exhaust fan. Fan must stay somewhere, because: first. you will cook components in the case, and second, if you remove fan, motherboard might sense it and PC would not boot.

So?
 
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From what I have seen on the PSU, it looks to have a standard 24 pin power connector with the 4 pin as well like most others.
Standard connectors:
http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#atxmain20plus4
Yours:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Q6cAAOSw~TNbSdso/s-l1600.jpg
 
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Fan.

Melissa, can you please open a case and provide here with fan measurement, across from one screw to another, I suspect and hope 92mm.
Next check fan model, no matter how awkward it sounds, I need to figure out how strong it is, and, almost forgot, how thick it is, and lastly just check the picture, it is easier to explain

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So.
1. Fan model
2. Distance across between screws, metric preferred.
3. Thickness of the fan.
4. that bottom measurement, to see how thin it has to be so GTX shroud will fit.

Or cut the GTX fan shroud.
 
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Would it be possible with some tweaking to drill new holes to mount the fan slightly upwards? or maybe even on the side of the case itself? So long as it's connected?

 
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Please open your case and see by yourself, if it is possible.

I can not find large enough picture to see it. But, from what I see, back panel is not even upward from fan, it seems like FAN is sitting in the hole made specifically for fan.
I could be wrong, but since there are no picture, I can not advice this solution.
 
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I agree that the PSU upgrade is not required, But I would still recommend it if this system is going to be used for gaming.
I disagree with you about the system fan being needed so as to not cook any components. The CPU has its own fan as well as the PSU moving air in or out of the system. Once the GPU is installed it too will be moving a bit of air out of the back of the system.
Most systems can turn off fan alarms in the bios, I have never had a system refuse to boot because of a missing or bad system fan, but we can try unplugging it on this one and see what happens on boot.
Nice find on the 1050 Ti btw. 😉
 
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This is purely your opinion.
I seen gaming Small Form Factor PC with 240 watt PSU and GTX 1050TIat trusted hands of one of Tomshardware regular adviser. He said that no problem have shown at gaming. Melissa has 365 watt PSU, more than 100 watt extra, and 65 watt over manufacturer requirement. I consider this enough for an entry level gaming PC. But this is my opinion.



You are right, CPU has its own fan with shroud, no questions here.
And that PSU will act as exhaust fan, which is correct, but it will have to deal with increased temperatures and so, its components will last less time.

Regarding GPU exhaust air.

Look at GTX 1050TI picture (same as GTX 1050).

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How the air will be pushed out of the case? What I see is that air will be pushed from under the shroud in every direction possible, thus staying in the case and raising internal temperatures.

Only card like this can truly push air out, and that is the reason that I choose exactly this card as my upgrade from GTX 970 with 2 fans (and I have more exhaust fans than any prebuild PCs)

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As you can see in this case, air has no other means to escape, but at GPU Bracket, shroud is seealed (to a degree of course).



Most of regular systems... Did you ever had Dell or HP? Have you ever went to Dell or HP BIOS by yourself?
I did, many times. I had Dell PCs since Win 3.1 (it was Dimension L series, I think) until Win 7 (Inspiron 570), and I fixed plenty Dell and HP/Compaq for my friends. I never seen anything related to Fan or Fan alarm controls there. So I doubt that this HP is an exemption to the rule.

PC might boot OK or might not. I know for fact that Insppiron 570 would not boot if CPU fan is not working, I have seen it first hand, similar goes for Inspiron 570 exhaust fan. In certain Dell motherboards you can boot without exhaust fan, but you would have to press F1 in order to proceed, every boot.
 
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I am a 50 year old PC gamer. I gamed on PC's when they were made for Dos. I do not buy PC's to game on. I build them. Although I do refurb/Upgrade any kind of PC that has game play potential and then sell them. Many types of PC's have passed through my hands. Maybe even a Dell Inspiron 570 and I may have had to change the crappy capacitors on the mobo they use. I enter every PCs bios I work on and go through the settings myself to get the best performance out of each one. If I had the HP, that Melissa has, in my possession I would know what it is capable of already, but since I have never owned one like it I am giving her the ideas I would try myself. If you do not like those ideas, that is your right. I am okay with that, but that doesn't change the fact that she can run the PC, without the case fan free from danger to the system, if it does indeed boot without it. If the case fan was out of the way the GPU would push a bit of hot air out of the fan port from the one side out of 4 it pushes air towards. I don't recommend having any fans near a GPU or CPU fans air flow.

Upgrading a PSU for a gaming PC is not an opinion, it was an educated recommendation. Yes it will run a 1050 Ti no problem, but it is an older PC which has more than likely been running for many hours past it's expected life span. Pushing it now could bring it past that point a lot sooner. Every PC I have refurb'd into a gamer got a new PSU that could handle any GPU the next owner wanted and I stand by my recommendation. Whether or not the recommendation is acted on is totally up to the owner.
 
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