Good gaming computer? Noob

[TriplexTroll]

https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=773376&CKS=PCW

https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=857838&CKS=PCW

https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=850580&CKS=PCW

https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=866398&CKS=PCW

https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=847400&CKS=PCW

https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=834901&CKS=PCW

https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=825195&CKS=PCW

Anything you would have done different? Noob needs help 😛

 

[Barty1884]

It entirely depends on what games you're looking to play, but there's definitely things most people would do different in most cases:

1. The i7 is unnecessary for gaming - an i5 is all you need.
2. The CX line of PSUs are poor. Look for something SeaSonic, XFX of EVGA SuperNOVA (b2, g2, gs etc - not NEX).
3. With the Z170 chipsets, you can take advantage of higher RAM speeds (only H170 is limited to 2133MHz).
4. Not sure which i7 that was, as it's showing "no longer in database", but if it's a 'K' CPU (like i7-6700k) then you will need an aftermarket cooler - as the K versions do not come with a stock coole.r
5. If you're looking at a "non-K", say i5-6500, then yo ucan look to the H170 chipset to save some money. There is small OCing potential with a "non-K" CPU, but if it doesn't interest you, then the H170 are probably better options.

 

[TriplexTroll]

It entirely depends on what games you're looking to play, but there's definitely things most people would do different in most cases:

1. The i7 is unnecessary for gaming - an i5 is all you need.
2. The CX line of PSUs are poor. Look for something SeaSonic, XFX of EVGA SuperNOVA (b2, g2, gs etc - not NEX).
3. With the Z170 chipsets, you can take advantage of higher RAM speeds (only H170 is limited to 2133MHz).
4. Not sure which i7 that was, as it's showing "no longer in database", but if it's a 'K' CPU (like i7-6700k) then you will need an aftermarket cooler - as the K versions do not come with a stock coole.r
5. If you're looking at a "non-K", say i5-6500, then yo ucan look to the H170 chipset to save some money. There is small OCing potential with a "non-K" CPU, but if it doesn't interest you, then the H170 are probably better options.

is this better??
Intel Core i5-6600 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.3GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan
Cooler Master B700 VER.2, 700W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, Standard, 1x 4+4 CPU, 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 3x Molex, 1x FD


And which motherboard should i choose?
ASUS Z170-P, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, PCIe-x16, CFX, HDMI, DVI, M.2 [info]
ASUS B150 Pro Gaming/Aura, Socket-1151 Hovedkort, ATX, B150, DDR4, 3xPCIe-x16,CFX,USB3.1, SupremeFX [info] +504.00
ASUS Z170-E, Socket-1151 Hovedkort, ATX, Z170, DDR4, 2xPCIe-x16, SLI/CFX, M.2, USB 3.1 [info] +527.92
ASUS Z170-K, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, 2xPCIe-x16, CFX, DVI-D, HDMI, M.2, USB3.1 [info] +614.72
ASUS Z170-A, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, PCIe-x16, SLI/CFX, DP, HDMI, DVI, M.2, USB3.1 [info] +748.07
ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING, Socket-1151 Hovedkort, ATX,Z170,DDR4,3xPCIe-x16,SLI/CFX, SupremeFX, GameFirst III [info] +817.58
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII RANGER Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, 3xPCIe-x16, SLI/CFX, DP, HDMI, M.2, SupremeFX, GameFirst IV [info] +1389.96
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, 3xPCIe-x16, SLI/CFX, DP, HDMI, M.2, SupremeFX, USB3.1 [info] +1764.49
ASUS Z170-DELUXE, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, 3xPCIe-x16, SLI/CFX, DP, HDMI, M.2, USB3.1 [info] +2784.41
Gigabyte GA-Z170X-GAMING K3, Socket-1151 Hovedkort,ATX,Z170,DDR4,2xPCIe-x16,SLI/CFX,M.2,SATA Express,USB 3.1,Killer GbLAN [info] +269.91
Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, SLI, DP, DVI-D, HDMI, Bigfoot 2201, M.2, USB3.1 [info] +839.99
Gigabyte GA-Z170X-GAMING 5, Socket-1151 Hovedkort,ATX,Z170,DDR4,3xPCIe-x16,SLI/CFX,M.2,SATA Express,USB 3.1,Killer GbLAN [info] +1232.68
MSI Z170A PC MATE, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, PCIe-x16, D-Sub, HDMI, DVI, USB3.1 [info] +242.11
MSI Z170A KRAIT GAMING, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, 3xPCIe-x16, SLI/CFX, HDMI, DVI, USB3.1 [info] +614.96
MSI Z170A GAMING M3, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, 2xPCIe-x16, CFX, Killer E2400, HDMI, DVI, M.2, USB3.1 [info] +727.82
MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC, Socket-1151 Hovedkort,ATX,Z170,DDR4,2xPCIe-x16,CFX,M.2,Ambient LED lights (RED), WiFi (AC) [info] +798.93
MSI Z170A GAMING M5, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, 3xPCIe-x16,SLI/CFX, Killer E2400, HDMI, DVI, M.2, USB3.1 [info] +1262.61
MSI Z170A GAMING M7, Socket-1151 ATX, Z170, DDR4, 3xPCIe-x16,SLI/CFX, Killer E2400, HDMI, DP, M.2, USB3.1


In the description of the Intle core i7-6700k it is saying that it's with a fan

 

[Barty1884]

I've never heard of the CM B700, so can't comment. This, as an example would be a great option:
https://www.komplett.no/product/839798/datautstyr/stroemforsyning/enheter/evga-supernova-750-g2-750w-psu

There's also this option, but I think it may be slightly low on power at full load.
https://www.komplett.no/product/874197/datautstyr/stroemforsyning/enheter/seasonic-m12ii-620-evo-fdb-620w-psu

As far as the motherboard goes, doesn't look like you have H170 options, so with Z170, any reputable brand (MSI, ASUS or Gigabyte are all fine) - just ensure it has all the options you're looking for. The Z170A KRAIT GAMING you picked initially is a good option.

Not sure why the i7-6700k is listed as "with fan" as boxed, retail (as far as I know) do not include stock fans.
Might just be because you're in Norway, I don't know.

 

[TriplexTroll]

I've never heard of the CM B700, so can't comment. This, as an example would be a great option:
https://www.komplett.no/product/839798/datautstyr/stroemforsyning/enheter/evga-supernova-750-g2-750w-psu

There's also this option, but I think it may be slightly low on power at full load.
https://www.komplett.no/product/874197/datautstyr/stroemforsyning/enheter/seasonic-m12ii-620-evo-fdb-620w-psu

As far as the motherboard goes, doesn't look like you have H170 options, so with Z170, any reputable brand (MSI, ASUS or Gigabyte are all fine) - just ensure it has all the options you're looking for. The Z170A KRAIT GAMING you picked initially is a good option.

Not sure why the i7-6700k is listed as "with fan" as boxed, retail (as far as I know) do not include stock fans.
Might just be because you're in Norway, I don't know.

This is the only options i have for a power supplie beacuse the store is building it for me

Cooler Master B700 VER.2, 700W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, Standard, 1x 4+4 CPU, 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 3x Molex, 1x FD [info] +116.41
Cooler Master V650 650W PSU ATX 12V V2.31 1x 4x4 CPU, 2x 6+2pin, 6x SATA [info] +718.87
Cooler Master V850, 850W PSU ATX 12V V2.31, 80 Plus Gold, Modular, 6x 6+2pin PCIe, 9x SATA, 4x Molex, 1x FD [info] +1298.96
Corsair CX 600M, 600W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 4x Molex [info]
Corsair CX 600W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Standard. 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 4x Molex [info] +93.54
Corsair CX 750M, 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 6x Molex [info] +376.41
Corsair CX 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Standard. 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 4x Molex [info] +449.62
CORSAIR RM650x 650W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +599.41
CORSAIR RM750x 750W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +711.29
Corsair CX 850M, 850W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 6x Molex, 2x FD [info] +768.77
CORSAIR RM850x 850W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +984.48
Corsair RM750i, 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modulær, 4x 6+2-pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 7x Molex, 2x FD [info] +1028.14
Corsair RM850i, 850W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modulær, 6x 6+2-pin PCIe, 10x SATA, 8x Molex, 2x FD [info] +1138.75
CORSAIR RM1000x 1000W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +1384.23
Corsair AX 760 PSU ATX 12V V2.31, 80 Plus Platinum, Modular, 6x 6+2-pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 8x Molex [info] +1529.84
Corsair RM1000i, 1000W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modulær, 8x 6+2-pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 11x Molex, 2x FD

and what's the diffrents bettween the cpus? and which one should i choose? for games with high graphics
Intel Core i3-6100, Socket-LGA1151 Prosessor, Skylake, Dual Core, 3.7GHz, 3MB, 47W, 14nm, HD530, Boxed w/fan [info] -1097.03
Intel Core i5-6400 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 2.7GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan [info] -341.36
Intel Core i5-6500 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.2GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan [info]
Intel Core i5-6600 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.3GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan [info] +213.04
Intel Core i5-6600K Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.5GHz, 6MB, 95W, 14nm, w/fan, PC-PROD [info] +533.94
Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.4GHz, 8MB, 65W, 14nm, w/fan, PC-PROD [info] +1353.22
Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 4.0GHz, 8MB, 95W, 14nm, w/fan,

 

[Barty1884]

This is the only options i have for a power supplie beacuse the store is building it for me

Cooler Master B700 VER.2, 700W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, Standard, 1x 4+4 CPU, 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 3x Molex, 1x FD [info] +116.41
Cooler Master V650 650W PSU ATX 12V V2.31 1x 4x4 CPU, 2x 6+2pin, 6x SATA [info] +718.87
Cooler Master V850, 850W PSU ATX 12V V2.31, 80 Plus Gold, Modular, 6x 6+2pin PCIe, 9x SATA, 4x Molex, 1x FD [info] +1298.96
Corsair CX 600M, 600W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 4x Molex [info]
Corsair CX 600W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Standard. 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 4x Molex [info] +93.54
Corsair CX 750M, 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 6x Molex [info] +376.41
Corsair CX 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Standard. 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 4x Molex [info] +449.62
CORSAIR RM650x 650W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +599.41
CORSAIR RM750x 750W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +711.29
Corsair CX 850M, 850W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 6x Molex, 2x FD [info] +768.77
CORSAIR RM850x 850W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +984.48
Corsair RM750i, 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modulær, 4x 6+2-pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 7x Molex, 2x FD [info] +1028.14
Corsair RM850i, 850W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modulær, 6x 6+2-pin PCIe, 10x SATA, 8x Molex, 2x FD [info] +1138.75
CORSAIR RM1000x 1000W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +1384.23
Corsair AX 760 PSU ATX 12V V2.31, 80 Plus Platinum, Modular, 6x 6+2-pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 8x Molex [info] +1529.84
Corsair RM1000i, 1000W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modulær, 8x 6+2-pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 11x Molex, 2x FD

They should be willing to use any component they stock, you'd probably have to ask them specifically though.

Out of those options, the Cooler Master V options are good (the V650 and V850) and the Corsair RMi (the "i" part is important). The RM options are no good (the RM1000x is the exception), but the RM###i options are. The Corsair AX options are good too.

I've bolded the good options.

and what's the diffrents bettween the cpus? and which one should i choose? for games with high graphics
Intel Core i3-6100, Socket-LGA1151 Prosessor, Skylake, Dual Core, 3.7GHz, 3MB, 47W, 14nm, HD530, Boxed w/fan [info] -1097.03
Intel Core i5-6400 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 2.7GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan [info] -341.36
Intel Core i5-6500 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.2GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan [info]
Intel Core i5-6600 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.3GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan [info] +213.04
Intel Core i5-6600K Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.5GHz, 6MB, 95W, 14nm, w/fan, PC-PROD [info] +533.94
Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.4GHz, 8MB, 65W, 14nm, w/fan, PC-PROD [info] +1353.22
Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 4.0GHz, 8MB, 95W, 14nm, w/fan,

Really, it's just the clock speed & overclocking potential. Do you have any interest in OCing?

All the i5s would perform pretty much the same at stock, so the i5-6400 is probably the best/cheapest option.
The minor performance 'boost' from slight clock speed increases (if any) does not justify the increase in price.

The i7's are unnecessary for gaming. So it boils down to the i5-6400 or the i5-6600k if you plan to OC.

 

[TriplexTroll]

This is the only options i have for a power supplie beacuse the store is building it for me

Cooler Master B700 VER.2, 700W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, Standard, 1x 4+4 CPU, 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 3x Molex, 1x FD [info] +116.41
Cooler Master V650 650W PSU ATX 12V V2.31 1x 4x4 CPU, 2x 6+2pin, 6x SATA [info] +718.87
Cooler Master V850, 850W PSU ATX 12V V2.31, 80 Plus Gold, Modular, 6x 6+2pin PCIe, 9x SATA, 4x Molex, 1x FD [info] +1298.96
Corsair CX 600M, 600W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 4x Molex [info]
Corsair CX 600W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Standard. 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 4x Molex [info] +93.54
Corsair CX 750M, 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 6x Molex [info] +376.41
Corsair CX 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Standard. 2x 6+2pin PCIe, 6x SATA, 4x Molex [info] +449.62
CORSAIR RM650x 650W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +599.41
CORSAIR RM750x 750W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +711.29
Corsair CX 850M, 850W PSU ATX 12V V2.3, 80 Plus Bronze, Modular. 4x 6+2pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 6x Molex, 2x FD [info] +768.77
CORSAIR RM850x 850W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +984.48
Corsair RM750i, 750W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modulær, 4x 6+2-pin PCIe, 8x SATA, 7x Molex, 2x FD [info] +1028.14
Corsair RM850i, 850W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modulær, 6x 6+2-pin PCIe, 10x SATA, 8x Molex, 2x FD [info] +1138.75
CORSAIR RM1000x 1000W PSU ATX 12V v2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modular [info] +1384.23
Corsair AX 760 PSU ATX 12V V2.31, 80 Plus Platinum, Modular, 6x 6+2-pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 8x Molex [info] +1529.84
Corsair RM1000i, 1000W PSU ATX 12V V2.4, 80 Plus Gold, Modulær, 8x 6+2-pin PCIe, 12x SATA, 11x Molex, 2x FD

They should be willing to use any component they stock, you'd probably have to ask them specifically though.

Out of those options, the Cooler Master V options are good (the V650 and V850) and the Corsair RMi (the "i" part is important). The RM options are no good (the RM1000x is the exception), but the RM###i options are. The Corsair AX options are good too.

I've bolded the good options.

and what's the diffrents bettween the cpus? and which one should i choose? for games with high graphics
Intel Core i3-6100, Socket-LGA1151 Prosessor, Skylake, Dual Core, 3.7GHz, 3MB, 47W, 14nm, HD530, Boxed w/fan [info] -1097.03
Intel Core i5-6400 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 2.7GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan [info] -341.36
Intel Core i5-6500 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.2GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan [info]
Intel Core i5-6600 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.3GHz, 6MB, 65W, 14nm, Boxed w/fan [info] +213.04
Intel Core i5-6600K Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.5GHz, 6MB, 95W, 14nm, w/fan, PC-PROD [info] +533.94
Intel Core i7-6700 Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 3.4GHz, 8MB, 65W, 14nm, w/fan, PC-PROD [info] +1353.22
Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake Socket-LGA1151, Quad Core, 4.0GHz, 8MB, 95W, 14nm, w/fan,

Really, it's just the clock speed & overclocking potential. Do you have any interest in OCing?

All the i5s would perform pretty much the same at stock, so the i5-6400 is probably the best/cheapest option.
The minor performance 'boost' from slight clock speed increases (if any) does not justify the increase in price.

The i7's are unnecessary for gaming. So it boils down to the i5-6400 or the i5-6600k if you plan to OC.

what do you mean by oc?

 

[Barty1884]

what do you mean by oc?

OC is Overclocking. Honestly, if you hadn't thought about it, you probably don't want to get into it right now.
Simply speaking, it's increasing the clock rate of your CPU (can also be done with your GPU).
It does get somewhat complicated, as you can get into voltage etc which can do more harm than good.
Sounds like you just want to get down & game - so the i5-6400 will allow you to do that at the highest settings out of the box. Don;t worry about OCing.

 

[TriplexTroll]

what do you mean by oc?

OC is Overclocking. Honestly, if you hadn't thought about it, you probably don't want to get into it right now.
Simply speaking, it's increasing the clock rate of your CPU (can also be done with your GPU).
It does get somewhat complicated, as you can get into voltage etc which can do more harm than good.
Sounds like you just want to get down & game - so the i5-6400 will allow you to do that at the highest settings out of the box. Don;t worry about OCing.

Is this better?
https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=846438&CKS=PCW
https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=850034&CKS=PCW
https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=850580&CKS=PCW
https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=851528&CKS=PCW
https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=847400&CKS=PCW
https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=834901&CKS=PCW
https://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=825195&CKS=PCW

 

[Barty1884]

The i5-6600 is a good chip, absolutely - but it's not going to give you the performance boost to justify the price.

The i5-6400 (clock speed 2.7GHz, turbo to 3.3 HGz) is 1,990
The i5-6500 (3.2 turbo to 3.6) is 2,190
The i5-6600 (3.3 to 3.9) is 2,449

So the i5-6500 is 9% faster* than the i5-6400 for 10% more money - that's a viable option.
The 6600 is 18% faster* than the 6400 for 25% more money - not so much.

As I said, the 6400 is all you need. If you want a "faster" CPU then the 6500 makes sense, the 6600 does not.
*You'd never actually "feel" the 18% speed improvement.

 

[TriplexTroll]

The i5-6600 is a good chip, absolutely - but it's not going to give you the performance boost to justify the price.

The i5-6400 (clock speed 2.7GHz, turbo to 3.3 HGz) is 1,990
The i5-6500 (3.2 turbo to 3.6) is 2,190
The i5-6600 (3.3 to 3.9) is 2,449

So the i5-6500 is 9% faster* than the i5-6400 for 10% more money - that's a viable option.
The 6600 is 18% faster* than the 6400 for 25% more money - not so much.

As I said, the 6400 is all you need. If you want a "faster" CPU then the 6500 makes sense, the 6600 does not.
*You'd never actually "feel" the 18% speed improvement.

Thanks for the help God bless you